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seapro
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 Posted - 06/16/2004 : 6:06:55 PM
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I have been a nudist for several years and have never gotten an erection in front of other nudists. I usually have the opposite reaction, shrinkage. I remember as a teenager I would get an erection numerous times throughout the day. Of course that was thirty years ago. You older guys know what I am talking about.
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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 9:08:16 PM
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Again I've said it once...I'll say it again. You don't need a penis when you go to the nudist resort. Just have it surgiacally removed, or carry ice packs on it so no one can tell you have a penis. You can also get a sex change...Just do something so no one can tell that you have that offending penis. No one wants to see your penis..whether your young or old. Do us all a favor when you visit...we don't have penises...so remove yours, thank you.
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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Massai
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Posted - 07/15/2004 : 8:57:28 PM
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To answer the original poster:
Yes, this topic has been discussed before.
There is nothing wrong with the idea in itself despite the vocality of the opposition.
It is just that as a society we are not ready to leap that far just yet. It requires levels of collective maturity we do not yet possess.
As we distance (as a race) from the medieval times, the crusades and religious fanaticism, we need to take the ideological changes one step at a time.
The counterarguments relating to "passing gas" and "sneezing" are not effective (IMHO). They are similar to what a woman in the Middle East would have to hear if she wanted to wear a short-sleeve shirt... "exposing the skin of your arms is against social convention. It is offensive, like 'passing gas' and thus imperative that you observe common courtesy and keep it covered".
As for the disclaimers (stating that nudists are promoting freedom from clothing and are appreciative of the human body including erections as long as they are covered) they sounds like a sophism... similar to: "You are absolutely FREE to choose as long as you learn to constrain and SUBJUGATE within the choices that you are permitted to have".
No, the human body is not fully accepted.
To set requirements based on physical contact makes sense, but to set requirements based on visual effects ... ?
That is one reason I never got to admire the Ascetics and desert Fathers of the early Christian times. Most of the time they had to leave society and be physically removed from "evil" interference before they could achieve purity of soul (given ideal conditions of vacuum). The real challenge would be to achieve the same purity in the midst of mental interference.
As for my children... I don't like to hold anything back from them, they should see the world as it is (my job as a coach/parent is to train them for the world... not for wonderland and Easter bunny) They should be guided to develop mental resistance to degenerative stimuli (such as narcotics, pornography, etc etc) instead of being oblivious to reality. The bubble of innocence that we wrap our children around breeds mental immaturity/weakness. It is not easy, but I did not become a coach/parent for the easy staff, or because it felt good to have sex with my wife some time ago and kids just happened.
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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/15/2004 : 11:08:05 PM
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Why does it seem that everytime I read a post by Massai I feel like I'm reading something from Wilson, Tim Allen's next door neighbor on Home Improvement?...lol. When I say he's like Wilson...I say he's like a wise man that everyone depends on for advice....Thank you Massai I could not have said it better myself. That is exactly what I have been trying to say, but apparently my messages were not understood by some people.
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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jdr
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Posted - 09/01/2004 : 7:39:15 PM
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I'm not even real sure what Wilson... I mean Massai (sorry) said, but I sure enjoyed the way he wrote it, and I agree with the parts I understood.
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jdr
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Posted - 09/01/2004 : 7:45:56 PM
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Wow!! 35 pages and growing!!! Can you imagine this many people being so interested in male erection, but so offended when they actually see one? It should not be a matter of whether or not you get an erection in a nudist setting that is offensive, but what you do with it after you get it. One thing for sure, an erect penis is just as natural as one that is not!
Don
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Further
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 Posted - 09/04/2004 : 2:29:01 PM
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Howdy all.
I think that nude socializing is a celebration of our total beings with openness. As Ken Kesey said ... whatever you are, wail with it.
If one is inhibited or shy at a nudist resort or on a nude beach, then one should explore that. Be inhibited, be shy, cover up without apology. The situation won't change by ignoring reality. The only way to change shyness is to go through it, experience all it has to offer, understand it completely.
If a man is full of maleness, full of power and testosterone, vitality and life, then he should enter into that. Be proud of who he is. If such a man makes a natural connection with a woman and gets an erection, then that's just something for them to both smile about.
Cover it up with a towel? Lay face down? If he's ashamed of it and ashamed that others will see it, then sure, go right ahead. Wail with it. Only by reveling in that shame will he gain a greater understanding of life.
If he wants to open his arms wide and embrace the sunshine and the air, erection and all, and if others don't like the sight of that ... well, perhaps they don't like the sight of life. Perhaps they should look away.
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truk13
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 1:11:33 PM
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I have to agree with Cheri on the point of male arrousal. As a naturist, I believe that the nude form is nature's perfect creation. That having been said, I also think that there is a place for male sexual arrousal and it is not in the general public. For naturism to flourish, those who practice it must be able to feel comfortable being nude around others.
I also, tho a male, do not appreciate seeing an arroused male in a naturist setting. It makes me feel rather uncomfortable being near that person. I know it also makes the female in my presence feel the same. As such, I appreciate any male in a state of arrousal to cover up, or remove themselves from the public.
Let's admit it, male arrousal is caused by feelings of sexual arrousal. Most women would not appreciate knowing a male is sexually arroused, and should there be males only in the general vicinity, there are abviously going to be questions in the minds of those present as to what caused the sexual arrousal in that particular male.
That being said, I agree with those who state that male arrousal is not wanted or appreciated in a naturist setting
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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 5:29:47 PM
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Wow, what a hot topic!
Ok, the penis at any size is still a natural part of the male body. I have to agree with Don, what you do with it is the real issue. If a guy is laying on his back minding his own business, with an erection then fine. As long as he's not getting arroused by others around him, arrousing himself or fly a flag from it shouldnt really be that big of a deal.
Arrousal is just one of several causes for an erection, as long as he is respectful of others and is not embarrassed by it then thats his choice. I personally would cover it or turn over, thats my choice. Part of being a nudist is feeling comfortable/accepted in our own skin. Right?
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 8:06:07 PM
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I have read a number of recent responses which really translate down to anotomical responses of the body to the "then present" environment. To wit, it is not uncommon for a male to awake with an erection from a long sleep or a nap. Do remember, however, in my younger teen years, never knew when the spirit would engorge and cause an erection at the most in-approriate times. Haven't had that problem in many, many years.
I remember an instance some 14 years ago, where I encountered a late 20's yr. old fellow who had arrived at the Red/White/&Blue beach above Santa Cruz. He had developed an erection while viewing the females enjoying the beach and was indulging himself in a very obvious fashion. Fortunately, myself and a number other male nudists confronted him and stronly suggested that he vacate the beach area. After doning my clothing, I followed him to his car and to the exit from the beach where I advised the beach managers of his recent activities. As you would expect, they advised him that his patronage would no longer be accepted. I expect that this still occurs and in each instance the inappropriate behavior must be confronted.
SLOBOY
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Levin
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Posted - 09/15/2004 : 02:55:59 AM
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Erection is like nudity itself. What I want to say is: I am nudist, naturist, I enjoy being naked 24/7 enjoying full nudity inside area. But I will never pose for sex magazine naked or do public naked ! NO !
Not every erection is the same ! Not all erections are threatening or pervert.
I think that man should control him self but not get obsessed with it. Imagine now, while in nudist park, beach, whatever, you look on beautiful woman and get atracted and get erection. Well that can happen, that happens in everyday life, why on Earth would nudist be immune on that ? Not all of us are in happy relation. Imagine you are alone, what would be the best place to meet say girl or woman which is already nudist and need not to be introduced into naturisam or so ? If you approach such a single woman it is not pervert even if you get erection. It has notting to do with approaching small girl, hardly erected with lillihop !!!
Taking towel everywhere you go, just in case you get erection, it is outright bizzare for me ! Well that is pervert !
And finnaly for me erection is somewhat embarassing. I do not want the other women and girls see my erection.
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Cohort
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Posted - 09/15/2004 : 09:06:01 AM
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Where do you stand on Male Arousal?
Straddle the fence on this one. Low fence, ummm that is, no big deal ... errr, the long and short of it is ... (geez), the ayes have it ... uhh, to each his own, I guess. 
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Kauai1
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Posted - 09/15/2004 : 5:43:49 PM
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My personal belief is the erection most certainly has a mind of it's own. How many times has any man gotten one at work without prior sexual thoughts? How many of us has gotten one showering or changing clothes? Naturist/Nudist clubs that cancel a membership for a natural act are very wrong and prudish, to say the least. I guess this proves you can be NUDE and a PRUDE.
Only if someone is threatening should such actions be taken. Little boys will get a "stiffy" and be in wonderment as to why? And, the good parent has the obligation to explain that each man is born with two heads; one for thinking (don't go there ladies) and one you have absolutely no control over what so ever. I would definately ask this question before joining any N club, group, etc.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 09/19/2004 : 04:11:14 AM
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Looks like Anty the Robot is back, hiding behind cellophane. Can't see through that. At least try to come up with some new material.
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Chuck
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Posted - 09/19/2004 : 09:19:17 AM
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Nudeisntlewd...pretty perceptive on your part...even I can see the transparency here...I dont post much cause I am still learning so much on the subject...and really appreciate all the genuine posts regarding the topics...and something just doesnt ring clear on these..99% of the fellow naturists that post regularly (emphasis on regularly) are really credible and those are the ones that are most helpful..again something not meshing here...could be wrong, but...........
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