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Warmskin
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 Posted - 07/16/2011 : 01:34:12 AM
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Oh, I really get your point, Home. Sure, let's pick on Bangledesh, because they have the most powerful foreign lobby in the USA. Is your thinking cap on? Do you know which country has the most powerful lobby in the USA? It's not Russia, China, U.K., Germany, or India.
Guess which country has the most powerful lobby. Makes sense to me to discuss that lobby and its effects on the USA.
I already know about Goebbels said, so spare me your minor tactics. You use that to cover up your own inadequate statements. What you are completely and totally misinformed about is which country dominates our congress and presidency. It's not Equador. As long as the real nuisance have such dominance over us, as can be seen through our continual submission to them, they are fair game. You, or course, think it's unseeming to ever criticize their leaders. And yes, saying that someone is anti-Semite, is the same things as saying someone is bigoted. You do like to parse words. Did you learn that by watching B. Clinton's speeches?
You say that I'm a bigot. Well, you can break the forum rules here all you want --up to a point. That means you have lost the argument -you now resort to name calling. That is your trick and desperate defensiveness. You offer little reason in your statements.
I will continue to speak out against ANY country that interferes with our traditional American governmental policies. If you don't like the First Amendment, I'm sure there are other countries that you might like. Maybe Cuba would be better. They have free health care and no free speech. I don't know, but all I can gather from your statements is that free speech bothers you.
All I do is make facts come to light. Do you have a problem with facts, or do you prefer the lies and half-truths? I quote from indie news sources while you watch "American" news media, judging by your non-stop refusal to state the facts.
It is you who is a broken record -- ignore the facts, ignore the suffering of people, ignore the humiliation of a people, ignore the war crimes in the USA's name, blah, blah, blah.
How many crimes against humanity do ordinarily tolerate on any given day. Dozens? Hundreds? Millions? How many crimes against humanity does it take to wake up your conscience? So, what I can gather from you is that crimes against humanity are okay, as long as it does not involve you. Now there is superb humanitarian thinking. Hah!
That is the difference between you and me. I object to crimes against humanity, but find no evidence that you do. Are you for crimes against humanity? Seems so, because you say brutal things about those who oppose those crimes. Thus you are completely in favor of these crimes. How do you justify that, HomeNudist? How many women and children must die needlessly before you will stand up against that? The only thing I read from your statements is that you would be fine with any number of helpless children being slaughtered.
And you call me names. Ever think about joining the Army and volunteering to help shell the homes of innocent families? Your statements suggest you would enjoy that.
Your statements are pure bigotry, for they support innocent and helpless people being killed for no reason. You should be ashamed of your statements.
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
Dwight D. Eisenhower
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HomeNudist
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Posted - 07/16/2011 : 03:18:02 AM
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ROTFL!!!
I proved my statements true without printing a single word.
Have a nice day. 
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Warmskin
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Posted - 07/16/2011 : 04:00:50 AM
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I only showed that you have a high tolerance for the many deaths of innocent children, and you think it's funny. Some people simply can't understand the value of human life, and your statements prove just that.
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
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jbsnc
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Posted - 07/16/2011 : 6:09:59 PM
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I already know about Goebbels said, so spare me your minor tactics. You use that to cover up your own inadequate statements. What you are completely and totally misinformed about is which country dominates our congress and presidency. It's not Equador. As long as the real nuisance have such dominance over us, as can be seen through our continual submission to them, they are fair game. You, or course, think it's unseeming to ever criticize their leaders. And yes, saying that someone is anti-Semite, is the same things as saying someone is bigoted. You do like to parse words. Did you learn that by watching B. Clinton's speeches?
Perhaps I can find a better keeper for you. Maybe Costa Rica. A beautiful country with a likely strong Catholic heritage. I will not fund your relocation but might contribute 4 or 5 dollars a month for a short while. Beautiful place I think. Go for it.
Happy Nuding.
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HomeNudist
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Posted - 07/16/2011 : 7:07:23 PM
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Again you fail to state the truth. The truth is, I do love the First Amendment. It is true that you do have the right to say whatever your little ol' heart desires.
Just as I have the right to laugh at what you say.
It would be wise to remember that the more hate you write, the less of it people will read.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 07/17/2011 : 03:16:13 AM
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And some people, whose statements represent non-think, still don't get it. Well, maybe it's not all their fault. After all they get all the news from "American" media. That unfortunately renders their statements null and void.
Here is more nonsense from that "GOP" woman, who thinks the USA could in no way exist before 1948. I refer to her as the crazy woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWYPRzqd25Q&NR=1
Here she is trying to pawn herself off as an American woman who is running for a presidential president. However, she is a spokeswoman for another country, and she goes into great detail about how her loyalty is mainly for them. There is no doubt what Ike would have thought of her.
Our special ally and America have no common interests, and they are a net negative for us. They bring the USA a lot of hatred. I love the people within that country who oppose the current leader of that country. There needs to be more of their type. Maybe that will happen in the future as a matter of the survivability of that country. Crimes against humanity is no way to for that country to survive. I am for survival but not the destruction of a people to make that happen. I strongly disliked Hitler and Stalin for doing that sort of thing. It's very sad to see it happening again in our time. The rest of the world agrees with me, but HomeNudist has defended it, by attacking me, who in turn is against the destruction of a people.
Show me an ally who is honest, humble, and I'll defend it. Show me an ally who commits atrocities, and I'll speak out against it. I frankly don't care what HomeNudist says, because he is against the first amendment and seeks to bully those who are engaged in free speech. It won't work with me.
So much for your tactics HomeNudist. I guess your screen name puts forth the idea that you dare not to be nude outside your home. Pity, actually.
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
Dwight D. Eisenhower
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balataf
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Posted - 07/17/2011 : 12:03:25 PM
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I was very impressed by a recent article. (Sorry, I lost the reference.) The giant firms of past generations employed hundreds of thousands of low-skilled people in such fields as railroads, steelmaking, shipbuilding, and mines.
For one example, the lines that are today's Union Pacific, running from Vancouver to San Diego, to Omaha, to Texas. Before World War Two, this required over 20,000 switchmen, sitting out along the miles of tracks in little switch towers. Today's switching for all that is handled completely by about 25 men who sit in a room in Allentown Pa., with computers.
Meanwhile, todays new giants, like Google, Yahoo, E=bay, etc. could have all their employees "sit in Madison Square Garden together." Not only are they so few, but they are mostly very high-skilled, like software engineers.
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The millions of voters who are the body of the nation, wilolo listen, debater, and choose the next steps in the directions of the the nation thru their Presudential oprimary and general election votes.
Can anyone deny that these hundreds of millions of people are the REAL America? If not the VOTING CITIZENS, then who else could be? Citizens self-select into the political parties, each of which is made up of varied factions that live or die on their ability to persuade voters.
If, for the sake of argument, the people decide that we get President Bachmann, might W decide that the US is made up of "FAKE AMERICANS?"
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Warmskin
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Posted - 07/17/2011 : 10:33:29 PM
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Fox News, which made it a point, during the 2008 primaries, to marginalize Ron Paul, ended up marginalizing itself as a creditworthy news outfit. However, they have been crawling back on broken glass to get his points of view. The neoconservative Fox News never dared to announce to the public that they were egregiously wrong about Paul. To wit, they kept him out of one of their debates, despite his better cash-raising results and better poll ratings than one or two of those who were allowed into their debate.
Now, Neil Cavuto, who gave Ron Paul the shaft on one of this older news programs, is saying that Ron Paul has been correct all along. Is Neil changing from neoconservative to conservative? That would be a major change for him, if so. Nevertheless, he made that statement about Paul being correct for all these years. Quite an admission!
Here is the video that encapsulates this topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkWfiU_8Rz0
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
Dwight D. Eisenhower
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balataf
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Posted - 07/18/2011 : 9:56:47 PM
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Obama's failure to understand the structure of the current debt limit crisis appears to be the main problem.
Does he honestly believe that the Republican Congressional leadership iae the ones he must convince to raise our taxes?
In fact, he really needs to convince the great mass of American voters, mostly Republicans and Independents, but including many Democrats.
Until he focuses on the real need in this debate, his position is not defensible
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Warmskin
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Posted - 07/19/2011 : 6:12:12 PM
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Don't know in which thread to post this, but this seems like a likely place.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/07/13/palin_nemesis_poses_nude.html
More notoriety for Palin, in an indirect way. Mostly it's gossip and revenge kind of stuff. It involves nudity, but no photos.
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Posted - 07/20/2011 : 9:45:35 PM
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One of Ron Paul's big talking points is sound money, even going so far as abolishing our national bank, the Federal Reserve.
In his system it is the restored money itself that would be the sound basis of commerce, not a manipulated national bank system.
How do you guys feel about sound money? Or does Keynesian economics make more sense in today's world?
Is the nature of our money itself the problem that solves everything?
The history of fiat money failures - 3 min
http://youtu.be/YKWu0GoCuEc
Ron Paul - Game Over for Fiat Money? - 5 min
http://youtu.be/cTIK9tdf6Oc
About one year old, but right on the money.
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balataf
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Posted - 07/21/2011 : 01:32:01 AM
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We need much better inflation control, without the total inflexibility of a strict gold standard that, in itself, created periodic depressions. Back to Jefferson and Jackson, the Democrats opposed "hard money" and Hamilton's schemes to promote it.
The Federalist/Whig/Republican line has consistently backed sound currency against such softer-money figures as Bryan and FDR. These tendencies still continue, and are at the heart of the Debt Limit/Budget battles today. While policy has shifted many times, the Democrats have ALWAYS been the more pro-inflation side wnting cheaper money.
Suggested reading in the field: several books by Milton Friedman.
Very closely related to the above, the Democrats were the "Free Trade" party from Jefferson up to the Depression, Then both parties were split for a generation, until the Republicans have tended more toward trade with Reagan and "Dubya"
The earlier Democrats, like Jefferson, Jackson, etc., up to Bryan and MacAdoo represented primarily agricultural economic areas that wanted the competition from European manufacturing, while the Northest-Great Lakes industrial belt wanted them as captive customers without a choice. This was the main issue in US politics from 1876 to 1930.
Compare the support on NAFTA until Clinton tepidly endorsed it, which many observers said he did purely to keep the Republicans from campaigning on the issue in '96. Dubya and NcCain were far more for Free Trade than Gore, Kerry or Obama who all depended so much on Big Labor's union support
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Posted - 07/21/2011 : 02:43:26 AM
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The idea that it was "the total inflexibility of a strict gold standard that, in itself, created periodic depressions," including the Great Depression itself according to Bernanke and others, is an interesting one. I did some research.
"Mainstream economists believe that economic recessions can be largely mitigated by increasing money supply during economic downturns.[32] Following a gold standard would mean that the amount of money would be determined by the supply of gold, and hence monetary policy could no longer be used to stabilize the economy in times of economic recession.[33] Such reason is often employed to partially blame the gold standard for the Great Depression, citing that the Federal Reserve couldn't expand credit enough to offset the deflationary forces at work in the market.[34] Opponents of this viewpoint have argued that gold stocks were available to the Federal Reserve for credit expansion in the early 1930s, but Fed operatives failed to utilize them.[34]" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard under Disadvantages.
Well, if this were true, now that the Fed has been entirely free of any form of gold standard since 1971, surely they can quench the current economic recession with another fresh tsunami of cheap cash. How's that working out for ya?
That well worn argument seems to fly in the face of reason for anyone watching the news these days, don't you think?
Every time the printing presses are put into overtime to save us from pending doom, the value of each dollar in circulation is debased permanently.
The end game of that scenario is that the creditors of last resort, China etc, realize they've been duped into investing in currency we always intended to debase, just when we need them to continue to support our economy.
To illustrate more clearly, here's a room full of respected economists literally laughing out loud at the notion of ever paying back the Chinese. [alternate full length video of Peter Schiff's speech is here, and his excellent Dec 2010 prediction of today's conditions here.]
One thing they don't yet come right out and explain on the media, is that an economy based on the creation of currency through loaning at interest, because of the interest that itself requires more loans to create the currency to pay it with, must expand exponentially forever. If it is made to stop expanding, it will die/default. Such a system must live, even at the expense of killing the host, in this case the host country.
"The credit rating agency Moody's Investor's Services suggested abolishing the limit on Monday." Perhaps they've figured it out. Let's just let that national debt expand exponentially forever, shall we? Soon, the world's entire GDP won't satisfy that debt. The bankers would then own the world, so to speak.
Welcome to the mad hatter world of Keynes. Care for some tea?
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Warmskin
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Posted - 07/21/2011 : 05:04:42 AM
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Admin says, "Welcome to the mad hatter world of Keynes. Care for some tea?"
No, but I'll take a few valiums!!
Late in the 1920s, the FED pulled about 3% of the money out of circulation. I don't know if that was to combat the excessive FED-based inflation of the Roaring Twenties or just what. What is incontrovertible is that the FED caused a bad recession. By the time 1933 rolled around, the FED took 1/3 of the money supply out of circulation. You can't do that without taking down a nation's economy.
One might ask why the FED did this. Did they and some of their closest friends stand to make a mint of money by knowing this was under way? Some did make a ton of money off this monetary phenomenon, but it wasn't the guy working at the factory, or running a small business.
All through FDR's administration, the depression kept on going, like the Energizer Bunny. All the wasteful spending programs FDR imposed on us (the ones that are in deep doo-doo right now)did nothing to correct the monetary horror inflicted on us by the FED.
Jefferson disliked these kinds of maneuvers, and the use of elastic money. He was quite right. Elastic money is what we have, and there are other names we can call it, as in fiat. Jefferson and Jackson railed against this sort of banking. Jackson was able to get rid of the US Bank, thank heaven, for a good while.
Contrived bank panics softened people up for wanting a US Bank once more. It worked. The anti-Jeffersonians rigged up an unlawful banking system that plagues us today. You can thank mainly Paul Warburg, and his cronies for this plunder of our wealth. Included in the bunch were such noted Mother Teresas like J.P. Morgan, Sen. Nelson Aldrich (ancestor to the Rockefellers, as in Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller), a Mr. Vanderlip, and others. Warburg was the main planner of the FED. The FED was supposed to stabilize our money and protect its value. They failed in that, as the dollar is worth only about 3 or 4% of 1913 dollars, when the FED was voted quite suspiciously into being. Nice work, FED!!!
As Henry Ford said, more or less, "If the people ever found out what has happened to our banking system, there would be a revolt tomorrow." Lucky for the FED the masses have no clue how their operation works.
All it took was an academic like Wilson to buy into that monetery monstrosity. He later regretted it. The FED was in office in time to help finance WWI, among other financial resources. It's no coincidence that the IRS came about in the same year. Both were shackles that would bind the American people to this very day.
Ron Paul has courageously spoken up for ending these disgusting organizations (IRS and FED), but the people seem to be in love with the IRS and the FED. I guess being a captive grows on one, and it would feel funny once again to be free of the menacing effects of this troublesome duo.
Further, imagine that we called all our troops home, ended the wars, scrapped the Depts. of Education and Energy, neither of which have done any good, and cut back on overly permissive welfare. There would be a huge uptick in the economy. Many of the distortions would be gone, and we could once again focus on business, preferrably small business. Let big business fail instead of spending the people's wealth on saving these old albatrosses.
Add to the above paragraph, getting rid of the FED and the IRS, and watch our economy take off. However, the average person is afraid to do that, judging by what we hear from either major parties. So, we continue on the path of self-destruction, until the natural forces of mathematics become an irresistable force in our economy. Once we can no longer borrow money, the games of war and welfare are over.
We can plan intelligently for that now, or we can wait until the laws of mathematics brutally dictate to us what we shall do immediately, and with much violence.
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
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