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Posted - 06/09/2011 : 10:06:07 PM
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"The neocons, who abuse our soldiers everday in the Mideast,"
How do they, including myself as a Neocon, do that? There are currently none in pffice that I know of in the exexcutive branch, not least because the left-wing Democrats replaced the right-wing Republicans. There may be a few in the House, but I do nnot know of any currently in the Senate.
with the main move of most important Neocons to the Reagan Admin, liike Jeanne Kirkpatrick, the only major ones in the Democrats were my heroes of the time: Senators Henry Jackson and Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
Warmskin. you are continuing to obsess on a point, thaT, while important, is merely one of many, and not even among the most important current problems Look at the fact that you keep posting about ab incident from 44 years ago. And the current stste of the Neocon faction is dying out so fast they don't even have a Presidential candidte to support. What does that tell people in reality?
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The Weenster is going to rehab. Funny how the good Congressman didn't think to get himself into rehab a long time ago. It took the past few weeks to give him a slap in the face to get him to get help.
Given the nice wife he has, did he not think to honor her in their marriage? What does that say about his character?
What about his constituents? Don't they deserve a much better person than what they have now? They do, but don't know enough to trade in this loser, and get someone without all his weighty baggage that an Amtrak train could not haul.
Regardless of party affiliation, when a congress-critter goes bad, he/she needs to go, period. The Weenster outsmarted himself with his horrible manners, that were clearly exhibited on the House floor, and in his domestic life. Unchecked anger and outrageousness will be one's undoing.
Foley, Craig, Kennedy, McCain, and Weiner should have been/were dismissed. Removing Weiner will be a major blessing for this country. He has a great job possibility in announcing professional wrestling matches, but not as a Congressman. He is low-life, and it would be a relief to see him go.
Other than that, I like the guy. 
"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Posted - 06/14/2011 : 12:53:36 AM
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I gave up my television quite some time ago. That raised my IQ by at least 10 points, alone. I do miss MTV a lot. I'd probably like to have seen the three ring circus called the political debates tonight. I can suppose the only thing that wasn't on that show was the swimsuit contest.
I will see them on youtube in very short order. I can probably with some accuracy, based on the past, forecast what went on.
The folks there were more interesting than all the AIPAC approved candidates that ran in 2008, save for Ron Paul, who has the courage to be his own man. Cain was in an interesting addition, with his business background. He might make too much sense.
Pawlenty is a bit of a mystery, but will be better known after this debate.
Romney, the liberal, who is well ahead of others, is the darling of AIPAC, and makes fun of people of other faiths, yet gets testy when people ask him about his religion, will be predictable, and much like he was in 2008. Would the GOP nominate the enthusiastic supporter of government run healthcare from Massachusetts? He is the clear front runner. Umm, he is not endorsed by Barry Golwater Jr.
Bachmann is a piece of work. She, whether she knows it or not, claimed that the USA could not exist before 1948. She actually said that, if you follow her logic to its natural conclusion. She does not give the USA her full support. Only partial support. For that, she deserves the guy with the large hook pulling her off the stage. She does not run on all 8 cylinders, and is a religious fanatic. I like theology very much, but sidetracked fanatics are ridiculous.
Besides the recycled re-treads of 2008, one note worth mentioning is the banning of Gov. Johnson by CNN. That is typical of the establishment. Their ilk did the same thing to Paul last time, even though he out-polled some others that were allowed into the debate. Of course the offending party last time was Fox News, the arch-Zionist news agency. No wonder they did not let Paul into their empire's building. Again, Paul does not need a foreign interest to keep him propped up.
Not to neglect the internationalist, Newt, he is a candidate that is smart and learned, but who is not going to appeal to a lot of GOPers as well as Democrats. Who knows about the independents and Newt. Still, he is always an interesting guy.
Then there is Santorum, who to a lesser degree than Bachmann, is a bit conflicted on which country he supports without question. He preaches a good game on economics, but cheers for those policies which let the government spend needless trillions of $$ in wars, which are equally needless. Santorum does have the requisite AIPAC approval.
Palin, I believe was not there, and if not, I could see her crashing it to make headlines, just as she did with Liberal Romney's event. Like Bachmann, she has some very bizarre views on foreign policy - like the advocacy of committing crimes against humanity. That is not quite as Republican as how the GOPers thought back in the 1950s. We didn't call for crimes against humanity back in those day. But, such is "progress."
"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Posted - 06/14/2011 : 01:59:18 AM
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Rather than "crashing Romney's event," alin held a different event an hour previous, 30 miles away from it.
The event sponsored by the New Hampshire Republican Party has no connection with AIPAC. And I have never seen AIPAC endorse candidates at the level of presidential primaries. Do you think that the Party structure selected by Republican voters in New Hampshire elecxtions is controlled by AIPAC? By what mechanism? There sure are very few Jewish Republican voters in the state.
New Hampsire does alot by direct democracy in mass town meetings with hundreds to thousands of citizens. Control the system? This is out and out paranoid! As always, the Party is controlled by the voters thru primary choices of candidates and policies.
I've seen Ron Paul appear on O'Reilly, Hannity and Van Sustern each several times. I do not get the impression that Fox is boycotting him at all. Do you have more information on this?
Each candidate is "his own man" or woman, Sure as hell, Gingrich prooved that with the errors of the past few weeks. He wouldn't even listen to his advosprs. that's why the all quit.
It will be more and more interesting. I hope PERRY gets in.
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Posted - 06/14/2011 : 9:57:48 PM
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The latest debate is over. The results are:
Ron Paul remains consistent, principled, beholden to no foreign interests, and supports the conservative view of not getting into wars, and in getting us out of stupid wars that are of no value to the USA.
Romney was more civilized this time. He gave no hate speech about people of another faith. I guess he got the point, because his faith is often denigrated.
Pawlenty became the first candidate to praise Ron Paul. He seems like a decent guy.
Bachmann was conflicted as always -- don't spent money on this and that, but pour trillions of dollars overseas to fight gratuitous and USA-defeating wars. On the gossipy side, she had way to much make up on. She looked as if she were embalmed.
Gingrich became the GOP's facist by stating that all Muslims are nazis. He didn't mention our special ally's attack on the US Navy. Hmm, wonder why.
Cain, like McCain, got into hate speech, which was rather juvenile. Otherwise, he presented some good points. He needs to get his head straightened out about foreign policy, and rejoin the GOP in the regard, even as McCain and Giuliani do.
Santorum was an echo of some of the others, and had nothing too original to offer.
Happily, Palin was not there, but I was waiting for her to crash into the background with an SUV to takeover the media event.
The debate, again, was far more civilized because of the relative absence of neoconservatism, except for the ridiculous statements from Gingrich, before the debate, and Cain's neocon bootlicking remarks about race hatred.
Gingrich and Cain seemed to have teamed up in whipping up hatred for America's friends of earlier years. The GOP onlookers appreciated the fears inflicted on them. All from thorough and methodical training and conditioning by the necons Kristol, McCain, the overpowering AIPAC folks, who suck off American blood, and by other public nuisances. The neocon deathgrip is still on the GOP's throat. People like Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Susan Eisenhower know this. That's why they voted for Obama last time. They may not this time, depending on who is nominated.
Romney is odds-on to win, and he will, of necessity appoint a staff of neocons to run his White House. If he is elected, there is nowhere else for him to go. Bush found this out, and McCain already had a militant neocon on his foreign policy team, in his election bid.
This all said, my favorite picks are Ron Paul and Mr. Pawlenty (so far).
It's not the people, it's their overriding philosophy. People come and go, but philosophy is forever. The GOP is going to, once again, be mired down in the insane, ugly philosophy of neconservatism. That is why I am now a libertarian and will never vote for any other party. I, too, have to stick to my principles, far more than sticking to a person who has betrayed my sense of principles.
Fake Republicanism runs supreme, although may have some cracks in it. The more intelligent people are starting to see that Ron Paul has always been right. He represents the finest traditions of the GOP, while McCain, Giuliani, and their ilk represent the worst possible elements of pretended conservatism. They would never give three cheers to conservatism. Irving Kristol, the smarmy Bill Kristol's daddy, wrote a book entitled, "Two Cheers for Capitalism." That says it all for the neocons and the party the took over -- the GOP.
Their idea of foreign policy is for American troops to die overseas for our very special ally. The past decade has proven this.
"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Posted - 06/15/2011 : 12:58:56 AM
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I did not see the debate, only selected clips and commentary. Most of my Wife's friends who saw it were impressed with Bachmann, the Tea Party's prime leader. For some reason, her caring for 23 foster kids impresed them greatly.
I am not a Bachmann supporter. Her main support is the Christian Right, and the last time they were in control, they gave us the Goldwater disaster.
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Posted - 06/22/2011 : 8:38:04 PM
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There are rumblings of theocracy from two of the GOP's candidates. Palin and Bachmann, to be precise. Each of them has a deeply flawed "Christian" background. From these aberrations springs their twisted politics.
Palin is a big advocate of committing international crimes so that she can have her "religious" nirvana realized. Crimes against humanity are will within her moral norms, and she knows this to be true.
Bachmann has "religious" deliria in bringing the USA under Israeli leadership, and she believes that the USA did not exist, and cannot exist without Zionist crimes against humanity. Hence, in her little mind, the USA did not exist before the late 1940s, by her very own definition. Yet, this passes for approved Republican "thinking." How low the GOP has sunk.
I don't know where these political wannabes got their education, but they are both truly whacked out, in today's language. I could pick someone out of the phone book, at random, who had their heads on more straight than these two politically psychodelic individuals. We don't need their hallucinations or their hysteria. Further, they make GOP women look silly.
The two are not far from the likes of David Koresh, and his ilk, when they make these disgusting remarks.
They cannot explain how there was a better America before the late 1940s, aside from social justice problems. I wonder if they even know who our founders were, or what they thought.
The bulk of the GOP candidates are more of the same - more neocon wars to fight, more innocent civilians must die, more money must be spent on the military, regardless of the effectiveness of that spending, more military-industrial spending with money borrowed from China, more bigotry towards innocents of another religion, even though Romney gets angry when his religion is questioned, more hypocrisy, more requirement that the GOP rank and file must not be able to think for themselves - especially when Bill Kristol can do all their thinking for them.
I can also say a lot about the Democrats, too, but they are not interesting in the next presidential bid, just as the GOP was not in 2004.
The GOP has remarkable instincts for losing, even when the patterns of their platform are so malevolent and obviously unRepublican. They cannot see where they go wrong, because they currently have few principles, and of those, the neocons must approve through their various lobbying groups who themselves have no principles. The GOP lost heavily in 2006, and 2008, and almost single-handedly installed Obama in the White House by their being so mousy and obsequious to the AIPAC crowd, cannot depart from those "principles" that led to their doom.
The only thing the GOP has going for it these days is the over-reach of the Democrats in the area of communising the USA. That led to the revolt in 2010 and not because the GOP smelled likke a boquet of roses. When you have to rely on your opponent to go bad, in order for you to win, something it deeply flawed in one's party .
If the GOP were to win in 2012, look for more war-fanaticism and neocon pressure centers to dictate their will to the GOP. The GOP has only one candidate who can think for himself, and that is a danger to the GOP -- thinking for oneself. That is a violation of all that is politically holy in the modern, fake GOP.
So, the line up is --
Sarah Palin,advocate of crimes against humanity, fanatical pubiclitiy seeker and social climber
Michelle Bachmann, hallucinator, pretender of patriotism while advocating foreign control of the USA
Mitt Romney, religious bigot, gov't health care advocate
Herman Cain, religious bigot
Pawlenty, so far not too bad
Rick Santorum, me-too AIPAC toady
Newt Gingrich, internationalist, gov't health care advocate, opportunist, bad family man
Ron Paul, sane, rational, intellectual, realist, expert on economics, married to the same woman all his adult life
Except for one of two candidates, we see another fake GOP selection. The neocon clone of your choice. Funny how when one man stands up and says he wants traditional GOP values, he gets booed off the stage, censored by the GOP and liberal media.
I have to laugh out loud when I listen to the fake candidates talk about cutting spending, when most of them want to maintain our nearly $1 trillion empire overseas. Even socialist Canada does not have an empire overseas, but we dumb Americans insist on this high level of spending without seeing a dime's worth of benefits from it. We get what the media tells us to want, and we keep on electing the different people who all feed from the same trough. I don't see America lasting much longer. Decades of governmental abuse will take us down. Palin and Bachmann will not save us. Not even close.
Shining the light of day is akin to lifting up a sheet of plywooed off the dirt. It allows one to see all the little bugs scurrying about, caught in the act of being themselves.
"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 03:32:23 AM
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I asm not aware of the US claiming sovereignty over any other nation or area. Hell, we haven't even had an occupation since Iraq 2005.
There is nothing that comes close to fitting the dictionary definition of an "empire." Where is this imaginary place?
Maybe for once, you'll have the integrety to answer a simple question?
But please notice that you are posting the same few points over and over and over again. I somehow doubt that anyone else is currently paying attention to your obsedsions, especially since you so seldom seem to get your facxts straight.
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Tony Blankley, Newt Gingrich's errand boy, has declared Woodrow Wilson to have invented the GOP. Blankley has finally told the truth of how the GOP has ended its role as the party of "normalcy," and is now the party of FDR, and Wilson. This unelected national leader knows it all. (?)
Such revelations from the blabbery errand boy. So, now we have yet another voice from the neocons who insist that the USa be involved in every disagreement in the world. Naturally, they don't say how they would pay for all this multi-trillion dollar anti-American spending spree. They don't tell you that we must borrow it all from overseas, thus piling up a debt that is already adding to the intensity of the impending American bankruptcy. Of course, the FED could simply print the money to pay for all this nonsense, but that would destroy the dollar and wipe out most everyone who has any savings. There goes the capital for new jobs and business.
So, Blankley, the errand boy, says that American principles are now obsolete, and anybody who opposes him is a "isolationist." Notice how he is very clever, like all good neocons are, at twisting the definition of words. That is the trick of Nazi dictators, Soviet Premiers, and Israeli Prime Ministers. Just do some word twisting and torture, and the people will believe anything. Too many actually do.
What is the American way of doing things is to have free trade with all nations, and not wars. There is no Founder who said any differently, save for Hamilton. He met his just end, in time to save our nation. It is not isolationist to conduct free trade, but Blankley is too dishonest to state that. I can't believe he is simply ignorant. It would be a good excuse because it would take him off the hook for being so anti-American in the USA.
How is it isolationist to trade with other countries and not have war with them all? How is it non-isolationist to not trade with some countries and bomb innocents in other countries. Blankley is too corrupted to see this obvious logic.
So, once again we have sharp and clear evidence the so-called GOP is anywhere near being genuine. It's a freespending party, that racks up debt upon debt, promotes a fair amount of socialism, and various other things.
Notice how it treats Ron Paul like dirt. He is the only traditional Republican left in the primaries. There are only a couple of other congressmen of the GOP stripe that is not bought, corrupted, and paid for, in their outlooks, attitudes, advocacies, and urgings. Walter Jones is a true Republican, so he will never be a big gun for the GOP.
There is a glimmer of hope for the hapless GOP, though. Some of the GOP congressmen have declared that the Mideast wars were a scam committed by the neocons. That is what the heavy loss of life was for, outside of bombing terrorist areas right after 911. Iraq was written by the neocons and later approved by Israel in the 1990s. Wait a minute, wasn't 911 in 2001? Yep. Pat Buchanan called the Iraq war a "pre-cooked package" by the neocons, They were merely waiting for the next incident of violence to present their case. The result, -- thousands of American troops died for the neocon, especially the PNAC outfit. You can check their website where they display their old plans given to Clinton.
This is all Tony Blankley kind of stuff. War everywhere, war always, war no matter the cost, war no matter who gets killed. It's ugly, but it's the new GOP mindset at work. The question is, when will the rank and file of the GOP finally reject the PNAC crowd, AIPAC, the neocons, the zany TV preachers who advocate even nuclear bombing of innocents, and more.
There are some cracks in the neocons dam, but not yet enough. Even Romney is now in favor of some withdrawals from the Mideast. Perhaps the neocons have gotten what they wanted for now - hegemony against those who oppose Zionism. The religious right certainly are Zionist freaks ,and they are referred to by the head Zionists as useful idiots.
As I watched the first two debates, I could see the non-thinkers sit on their hands as Ron Paul recited one American point of view after another. It was funny to see how ignorant a lof of these folks were. In the 1950s, this would not have been the case, but the Zionist juggernaut in the media has never given the American people both sides of an issue. There were some GOP folks in the crowds who did applaud Ron Paul, but they were the kind who could think for themselves and prefer to walk in the light, while the neo-GOP folks in the audience, whose thinking is done for them, took a strong dislike to Paul.
So, Blankley did us a favor of exposing the new, artficial GOP for what it is - a party who wants to create a meddling nation who interferes with what many other nations are doing and thinking. This is not true GOPism, but a badly fake one. This is pure Woodrow Wilson, and the many failures it brought about in his day. The GOP cannot learn anything until it loses its "leaders" and forces its people to think for once, instead of sucking their thumbs while watching the major media news.
Blankely, the always authoritarian errand boy, unelected to any office, still wants to tell Americans how to think. Sorry old Tony, you're not fit to tell yourself how to think, so why should we take your advice. Blankley did serve unwittingly as a canary bird in a coal mine. That is where the traditionalists have the last laugh.
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
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Posted - 06/24/2011 : 06:44:14 AM
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Omigosh, here is a "GOP" senator that is the poster boy for the ruling neocon class. It's Lindsey Graham, epitome of the fake GOP of today.
He is a true neoconservative. He claims to be a conservative, but anyone who is awake and thinking knows that Graham is a liar, and he would sell out his own relatives to get more power.
Here is a video about him. It's only a few minutes long. The commentator is one of the few last remaining member of the conservative species in the USA. He is featured in the American Conservative magazine, apparently. He makes sense, unlike your usual neocon. The latter always talks mumbo-jumbo, because if they ennunciated their true motives, they would be forcibly removed from our nation by liberals and conservatives alike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWqxvgxDHDI&feature=related
Further gossip about the new, fake GOP -- the GOP nominated and will nominate a total of four neocon presidential candidates. Bush twice, McCain, and next Romney. They all sound alike, talk alike, and smell alike. GOP activists scurry about trying to convince the rank and file that these guys are true conservatives. Just don't tell the rank and file about their neocon spending habits, and increments of socialism.
Graham is just about the most noxious of them all. This video really rips into him. Oddly, the Democrat who opposed him was a conservative, while Graham was the true socialist neocon. We can see from this how stupid party loyalty can be sometimes. It makes us behave in ways that we would otherwise not entertain.
Party labels mean less and less as each party is badly distorted. Today we have the neo-liberals who marched in with FDR, and the neo-conservatives who switched parties without changing their philosophies and worked their way up through the GOP and now their plans dictate what is approvable and what is not. The "Democratic" party is the party of FDR, while the "GOP" is the party of Woodrow Wilson. Some choice we have!
What we need now is the party of the combination of Grover Cleveland and Warren Harding (minus the Tea Pot scandal). Now there is real difference with a distinction.
Elect Bush or McCain and have a needless war. Elect Obama and have a needless war. Elect Romney and get a government dictated medical plan. Elect Obama and get a government dictated health plan. Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum.
Only the Libertarians are offering a different choice. Graham is offering the worst of all the worlds. His piglet face is lying to us. Actually he could serve in either party, because he has no principles. If only he had some character, but I wish for the impossible. Neoconservatives have no character, and are not American.
With "Republicans" like Graham, who needs party affiliation? He stands for nothing, except his own political lusts. In other words, he has a low intellect and is a political caveman. Still, the "GOP" cirles their wagons around this thing, er, person. One would think the GOP would circle the wagons around proper conservatism, but that is not going to happen this century. It's the neocon century, and Graham is its poster boy.
"How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?"
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Posted - 06/29/2011 : 10:35:59 PM
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Here is an interesting video, with Dr. Michael Scheuer, of the CIA, who specialized in the Mideast. He appears on C-SPAN and fields the caller's answers.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2c9_1262955363
His answers and statements run counter to what a lot of what we hear from our politicians, of both major parties.
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Here is a video clip or Hillary!'s hypocrisy. She was reading a neocon paper to a group. She stated that Iran allowed no political protests. About that time, a protestor stood up in the audience while holding a sign. He never said a word while protesting. His sign did all the talking. He did speak out right after his arrest. The protestor? He was a CIA fellow who used to brief a US president every day.
He was promptly arrested for doing holding up this sign. Wait a moment, didn't Hillary! just rip a foreign nation for not allowing protests? Yes, but being two-faced like Hillary!, you can get away with this sort of thing.
So, we now know that the USA is the free-speech equivalent of Iran. Okay, that may be an exaggeration, but when you think about it, you get arrested in both the USA and Iran for holding up a sign that shows that you are of an opposite opinion.
Add to that, the new advocacy by Rick Santorum of ending free speech in the USA, and you have the end of the USA. But, hey, that is what passes for gov't these days.
You asked for the video clip and here it is. Best of all there is no charge:
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/02/ray-mcgovern-please-don%e2%80%99t-trust-fox-news-there-was-no-heckler/
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 11:59:24 AM
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Americans Want, and Expect, Repeal
11:00 AM, Jul 7, 2011 • By JEFFREY H. ANDERSON The Weekly Standrd
By a margin of 23 percentage points (53 to 30 percent), Americans now think it’s likely, rather than unlikely, that ObamaCare will be repealed — according to a recent Rasmussen poll of likely voters. That’s the high-water mark to date for Americans’ expectation for repeal. By a margin of 14 points (53 to 39 percent), likely voters support repeal, and the number of respondents who “strongly” favor repeal (40 percent) exceeds the number who oppose repeal even “somewhat” (39 percent).
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Obamacare has dim propects.
Deep public anger is still very widespread, dwarfing almost all issues in the current debate. Even Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya all combined have a comparatively tiny impact on the voters. People are not going to vote basded on foreign policy unless there is a major crisis in the next 16 months.
The voters collectively own their parties and make decisions about the direction and philosophy they want in their parties' evolution.
On this one, Republicans are united, and Democrats are split. Drawing this issue out longer strengthens Republiucans and undermines Democrats.
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Posted - 07/07/2011 : 5:33:02 PM
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The American and Israeli plot to mal-nourish children continues on. Greece shames itself, and is thoroughly humiliated by a US ally. Greece succumbed to the extortion of our "ally" in actively interrupting normal sea traffic. Our "ally's" bullying, corruptions, murders, and the like know no end, yet "Americans" support this sort of thing.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/06/a-greek-tragedy-seizing-the-gaza-flotilla-on-israels-orders/
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