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hernandocpl
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Posted - 10/12/2010 : 2:10:28 PM
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I just love our politicos here in Florida right now. We have the tea party fav Rubio, who'se near sole drum banging slogan is all about Washington being "broken" and we must fix it and get the "career politicians" out. This comes from a man who is a career politician as he has done bugger all his whole life!
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CalTom
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 Posted - 10/13/2010 : 4:45:20 PM
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In a few weeks you won't have to listen to Rick Scott's mother Esther tell the voters of Florida what a good boy he is. Every time I see that political advertisement I recall a scene from the 1965 Beatles movie "Help" where there's a disheveled washer-woman scrubbing the temple floor who looks up and says, "Clang is my son and he's a good boy." Note that Clang (British actor Leo McKern) is the crazed eastern cult leader out to murder Beatle Ringo Starr for a sacrificial ring.
Imagine the internal polling negative numbers that forced Rick Scott to resort to using his mother. I've noticed since the Republican primary, Scott has attempted to keep his face out of campaign adds as much as possible. That is always an indication that seminar test subjects correlate his smiling photo with the 1.7 billion dollar health care fine and the 75 times he invoked the 5th Amendment.
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hernandocpl
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Posted - 10/14/2010 : 08:33:59 AM
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The main thing thaT GETS me right in the mood for a good laugh is that the republican party will vote for anyone other than a sensible candidate...and thats right here in the Scott person in Florida. Part of the biggest fruad cases ever, part of a huge scam that ripped off the Gov and taxpayers ever...........yet, the right wing will vote for him. Scott is a lying scumbag and even the republicans/washington tribe, are all keeping quiet and their distance from him
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FlCpl4NewdFun
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Posted - 10/14/2010 : 6:12:12 PM
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I'm quite sure the republican's don't have a monopoly on putting forth disreputable candidates. Sure, Rick Scott is no Saint but the gubernatorial race is so weak this time around in Florida and his competition carries not even a slight bit of executive presence so I still think he'll take it.
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hernandocpl
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Posted - 10/15/2010 : 08:38:51 AM
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So your happy and will vote for a guy thats the biggest crook in medical history whose company ripped off you and me for millions.............
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 10/16/2010 : 12:55:42 AM
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november 2 will be the judgement day for america will we continue daown the progressive road or will the people in the middle say enough, i believe the majority aren't happy with the path the progressives have taken our republic and the teaparty has woke them up. heck it has even awaken some deadbeat conservatives.
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hernandocpl
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Posted - 10/16/2010 : 10:08:20 AM
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and they probably will but not for your reasons BUT because many millions of voters are too dumb to remember the previous 8 years that got us in the s*** hole in the first place and they want everything fixed now, today or at least this week. It took 8 yeasr to drag this country down into the pits and some folks are too stupid to realise that it wont get back on its feet in 5 mins.
Now if you dont believe that, then you are too naive or ...............b
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homenude
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Posted - 10/16/2010 : 10:11:27 PM
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The eight year under Bush (43) were far better than these awful almost two years under Obama. Never had plus 9% unemployment under Bush, did we?
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Warmskin
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Posted - 10/17/2010 : 06:53:35 AM
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I fear that the Tea Party has come under control of political parties, and that will dampen its spirits quite a bit.
The neo-consevervatives have definitely tried to herd the members of the Tea Party. That would be the death knell for it. That party is best left to be spontaneous and not tied to major party interests.
Neoconservativism is nothing at all like true conservatism. The former are big spenders, facists, create wars for their own sake, and use the USA for their own purposes. Philosophically, they started with Leon Trotsky, migrated to the Democratic Party, and then in the 1970s, drifted over to the GOP. Who would have ever thought that the Trotskyists would be running the GOP.
That is one reason I would hope the Tea Party avoids neoconservatism like the plague. One wonders who crafted the 10 point program. I can agree with a lot of it, but not with any neocon war posturing.
Interesting how the neoconservatives who planned the unconstitutional Iraq war, never, themselves, had the courage to enlist in the military -- thus they are called "chicken-hawks," and rightly so.
For a good history of the neoconservatives, click here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
To me, the original purpose was the rejection of the establishment, whether GOP or Democratic Parties. Leave it to the neocons to attempt to hijack the Tea Party, and turn those partiers into good little soldiers who were comfortable with violating the US Consitution. Interesting that Sarah Palin, a true neocon, has put energy into trying to corral all that spirit of the Tea Party folks, and keep it less than useful.
A side note of interest is the postulation that the neocons, and George w. Bush, made the new federal health care plan possible. If you remember, it was the public's rejection of neconservatism in 2006 and 2008 that paved the way for Obama's radical plans to socialize America, and combine corporations and government into one unit. How facist of Obama!
Now, the voters are stampeding away from Obama to an extent, but to which direction? Yes, back to neoconservatism, which they rejected forcefully in the last two elections. Will people ever learn? Doesn't look like it.
The Tea Party was a good idea at first, and it did resemble the original one. However, the current Tea Party is now leaning toward the power establishment that it once rejected out of hand.
It gets curiouser and curiouser.
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
James Madison
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hernandocpl
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Posted - 10/17/2010 : 11:51:16 AM
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Originally posted by homenude
The eight year under Bush (43) were far better than these awful almost two years under Obama. Never had plus 9% unemployment under Bush, did we?
Tell that to the thousands of Mothers/fathers/sons and daughters of Troops killed
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homenude
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Posted - 10/17/2010 : 1:28:57 PM
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I'll do that! Right after you tell the millions who are suffering from the bad economy how they are better off than they were under Bush (43).
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FlCpl4NewdFun
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Posted - 10/17/2010 : 3:38:16 PM
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So your happy and will vote for a guy thats the biggest crook in medical history whose company ripped off you and me for millions.............
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Not sure where on this forum I ever appeared to be banging the Rick Scott drum.
Whatever you think of the Tea Party, they at a minimum appear to have conviction. Look at that mess up in Delaware!! Any claims that the Tea Party has any loyalty to the Republicans just need look at that race. Knowing she would get crucified in the general election, she got the nod in the primaries nonetheless.
I do find interesting your unilateral assessment on 50% of the country's intellect just because of Bush. Don't you think it's possible many believed and still do believe the policies of the Bush administration and Republican party are a better course for our country than the one we are on today?
My take has always been that most everybody gets up each morning and tries to make it through the day doing the best they can for themselves, their family, and the nation and votes according to their conscious. We couldn't function as a society if that were not the case.
At the end of the day it seems that Democrats, Republicans, and yes even the Tea Party all want the same thing but often have legitimate fundamental differences on policies and legislation to achieve the same end.
Our best friends are Democrats and can't understand why we vote the way we do, and in turn we can't understand why they vote the way they do. I often find it hard to grasp why anyone with a job would vote for anyone but a Republican ;-). But, despite our political differences we are great friends and both want our children to grow up in a more prosperous, secure, and tolerant society than we have today. Imagine that!
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Posted - 10/17/2010 : 10:51:33 PM
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Too much of politicsl life gets poisoned by people erroneously seeking hidden nefarious motives in the opposition. With almost a half century in political activity, including 23 years in Democratic Party organizatons and 10 years in Republican posts, I will point out again that the extreme wings of both have deep delusions about their opposite extreme.
Ref: my posting of 9/10/10 in this thread, on the illusion of Big Business influencem as proven hollow by the anti-corporate Tea Party.
We need to calm down, have patience, and understand, among other things, that even the best economic program needs four years to show a discernable impact. Note that the Reagan Revolution's excellent reforms of 1981 produced
the great upturn beginning in 1985.
I am cheered by the continuing response and activity in this thread's debate. By the time it is over, we MAY have 5,000 "hits," and 180 postings. I'd call this a success!
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 10/18/2010 : 12:54:32 AM
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it amazes me when some believe that the economy spiraled down during bush 43 8 year term, it actually spiraled the last 2 when the dems were in control and dodd, pelosi and barney thought everyone was entitled to a house weather they could pay for it or not, then we had bailout, cash for clunkers and hey here's $8,000 toward a house and yes you make $7.00 a hour sure you qualify. i am going to take the lesser of two evils yes neither party are anything to write home about but those on the left spout that they are progressives ( listen to their speeches) read what they said in the past, yes progressive - socialist is the same to me and i am no socialist and don't want my republic turned into a socialist state. yes you will see a major change november 2 because the majority of american don't want it either.
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hernandocpl
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Posted - 10/18/2010 : 09:24:14 AM
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I'll do that! Right after you tell the millions who are suffering from the bad economy how they are better off than they were under Bush (43).
And that folks says it all. This guy is just worried about his own pocket rather than the thousands who have been killed and the ten times more that have had a limb blown off. You make me sick.
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