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nudeisbetter
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 06:51:16 AM
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This definitely turned into an odd thread untypical of this site and not what I would consider appropriate IMHO.
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islandmad
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 Posted - 11/01/2008 : 2:15:17 PM
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Although new here I feel I must speak up on the side keeping things light hearted with a touch of humour. Being too serious puts too much emphasis on nudity for its own sake rather than an adjuct to getting on and living whatever one is living at the time. But live and let live, no offence intended to anyone
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badbugs
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 7:59:54 PM
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Hey Freckles.....No high horse here, we enjoy your humor and appreciate your posts. Thanks for a few grins and giggles......Mr & Mrs Badbugs.
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Freckles
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 9:37:27 PM
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Originally posted by ncnewdist
Hey Freckles have you ever played connect the dots LOL
NC
There's a challenge. I could have a tattoo of the 12 constellations of the zodiac. Would have to go round my bum too!
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 10:45:18 PM
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Originally posted by Freckles
Jeez,
Can you not recognise when a couple of people are having a bit of banter? It's called humour. You might not find it funny, but hey, we're all different, as I'm sure you would be the first to agree.
If I was looking for some "hot naked chat" don't you think I would have used a different word to cleft? I decided it was the most innocuous word I could have used to put the concept across. Seems to me you would like this forum to be "joy optional" as well as clothing optional.
And before anyone gets on their high horse about "using our Lord's name in vain", I am a confirmed atheist and I don't really care what you think!
Yah boo, sucks to you!
Freckles
What you're engaging in is called subversion. If you were blatant about it, it would be immediately recognized and censured. There is a common theme in all of your posts: exhibitionism and titillation, sometimes involving minors.
If you want to talk about joy, we can make a thread for that. God knows, as do all of us who have regularly visited nudist resorts, that there is a great deal of joy to be experienced in the nudist lifestyle. None of that experience of joy has anything to do with the prurience your posts constantly present.
I am not trying to fight you, Freckles. I am asking you to tone down the sexual nature of your posts. Obviously, sexuality is something you care very deeply about and want to discuss. I have no problem with that. But this isn't the place for it. There are many places for it, but this is just for discussing nudism.
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 10:49:53 PM
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If my opinion is in a clear minority, please let me know. I am trying to keep this site family-friendly. If the majority of the users no longer care for that, or what I believe that to be, please let me know. I will go elsewhere, or not visit nudist forums. There's so much trash on the nudist net. I would hate to see this site fall to that level.
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Smooth Moby
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 11:16:57 PM
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Freckles, You asked how much it costs for laser hair removal for the full bikini area, here in Austin Texas it's $500 for 6 treatments. My Wife had it done and the results were great! I think most places here in the US charge about the same. Really like all of your posts!! Keep it smooth
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 01:02:01 AM
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Moby-- What do you mean by great? How long did the hair take to grow back, or did it at all? How painful was the procedure? I would like to get this done, but I've been quoted prices around $3000 per session, with no guarantees.
I guess another question that's worth discussing, which I've often contemplated with myself, is why would we want this?
I suppose, for me, it's that I want to return to a more innocent time in my body. I'm refusing the adulthood of my body even as it returns to the forms it knew as an infant. It's a fact that we grow from potato-shapes to V or Hour-glass shapes and back to potato shapes.
I'm trying very hard to learn about humanity, and I am using nudism as a means to that end. Maybe my experience online is something I should pay attention to, in these lessons. Maybe innocence lost is unrecoverable. Maybe the only reason adults indulge in nudism is for prurient thrills. Maybe we try to remove our body hair to make us look like children because we've never grown beyond infantile sexuality.
Maybe. But I don't think so. I think adult nudism is a healthy pursuit not related to sexual regression. Sexual regressives might be attracted to it, but this is just something we must all guard ourselves and our families against.
I could be wrong. We might all be perverts. I suppose time will tell.
I'm not directing all this at you, Moby, but at the thread in general. We've got some serious issues in this forum.
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Freckles
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 07:18:47 AM
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Originally posted by thornapplebison
What you're engaging in is called subversion. If you were blatant about it, it would be immediately recognized and censured. There is a common theme in all of your posts: exhibitionism and titillation, sometimes involving minors.
If you want to talk about joy, we can make a thread for that. God knows, as do all of us who have regularly visited nudist resorts, that there is a great deal of joy to be experienced in the nudist lifestyle. None of that experience of joy has anything to do with the prurience your posts constantly present.
I am not trying to fight you, Freckles. I am asking you to tone down the sexual nature of your posts. Obviously, sexuality is something you care very deeply about and want to discuss. I have no problem with that. But this isn't the place for it. There are many places for it, but this is just for discussing nudism.
I am not trying to pick a fight with you TAB but I fail to see why the only thing we are allowed to discuss on this site is nudism. Apart from having a laugh, I am trying to be honest about how a lot of people on this forum feel. Nudism is just part of what we do. As well as the pleasure of being naked itself, I think many people enjoy being seen naked a bit. I have clearly said that having no pubic hair gives me a bit of a buzz because people can see more of my genitals. I freely admit that's exhibitionist but I fail to see how I have been subversive about it.
I have made light of hairless pudenda and again, I don't deny this is titilation, but others recognise this and apparently enjoy it, if the support I get is anything to go by. Please don't be so patronising as to assume others can't see through any "subversion" I am trying to instigate.
I am sorry TBA - I would gladly bow out if I thought I was wrong, but I have had a lot of supportive posts and PMs and I think you are in the minority. I backed down on the issue of my kids, their nudism and emerging sexuality (elsewhere on this forum)in the interests of not upsetting the puritan sensibilities of many posters,
Sorry if you dont like what you read,
Freckles
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jw1
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 09:36:47 AM
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Freckles - Thornapple seems just a touch prudish, have enjoyed this thread and the banter.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 11:43:22 AM
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from thornapplebisonMaybe the only reason adults indulge in nudism is for prurient thrills.
I couldn't say that was the case, TAB. I go to a nudist resort to feel natural. There is time enough to to be weighted down by clothing, and by all that Madison Avenue and society imposes on us for too much of each year. Arriving at a nudists resort or beach is to cast away this clothing and just be natural. I don't go there to flash in public, or to try to arouse someone. I go there to be around others who like to be as nature is intended. To say otherwise would be, possibly, that when you, say, strip down at a doctor's office, that you are trying to act in a prurient way.
Nudity is not prurient, but the mind, if it attacks the naturalness of nudity, will find prurience. Thoughts and feelings color everything we sense, but it is how we interperet nudity that not only defines nudity for that individual, but it also tells other people about how you frame a concept, in this case, nudity. The differences of attitude about nudity can range from that of Michaelangelo to the porn merchant on a back alley. It's all about how we think about something, and is not purely about that something.
Nudity, as seen by the whole of people, has many meanings. It all depends on what your life's theme is, and then nudity will fit somewhere in your life's theme, and that makes it your personal take on nudity. Another person, equally virtuous, can see nudity in a much different light.
That government governs best, which governs least - Thomas Jefferson
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nudeisbetter
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 12:25:26 PM
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I'm certainly no prude, but the flirting and discussion in this thread is IMO not helpful to this site or to nudism in general. Were an outside to see parts of this thread their incorrect assumptions about nudists and what they do behind those gates would apparently be confirmed. I'm not saying to stop - it's not my site, not my decision. If it were my site these posts would be long gone though (good thing I have no say.)
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Freckles
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 1:40:14 PM
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I think the number of people who might read my ramblings and form a negative opinion of nudists will be swamped by the number who form an opinion by looking at the models who spread their legs on a bed and are described as "nudists" by the porn industry.
Give people who get this far credit for weighing up the facts and developing an informed opinion of what nudism is about. It's about many things and not just what it means to you. I too am glad you have no say on my posts being removed.
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Smooth Moby
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 2:08:16 PM
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Thornapple, you must not have read my profile. It's been almost 26 years since I was out in a field and was struck by lightning. About 2/3 of my body hair was permanently killed. Lucky for me my facial hair and my scalp were spared, however the body hair that remained grew back as patches. Looked really strange, so I shaved it off. A couple of years ago I had the patches of hair removed with laser treatments.
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 10:20:40 PM
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When posting, I recommend we imagine that we're sitting around a poolside table at a nudist resort with kids running around and people of all ages and backgrounds relaxing and playing. If something we want to post here would be inappropriate in that context, it would probably be inappropriate here. I guess we all have different ideas of what's appropriate. I've never heard flirting and sexually-charged banter in such a situation, so it seems a bit strange to find it here.
Moby, no, I don't generally read profiles. I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you. I'm glad you survived!
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