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lookatme
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 Posted - 11/30/2011 : 12:22:09 AM
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Originally posted by Warmskin
I see the opposite sex on a normal city street, and yes, they can be attractive to me, however superficial that may be. I can also find a nudist woman at a resort to be attractive.
Trying to attact attention to yourself at a nudist resort is quite silly, if not completely embarrassing for the "exhibitionist." It's a nusiance to the people around. Why is it "quite silly"? I think that if I'd find attractive a woman in a clothed environment, then in a nude one, it'd be much more likely to find her attractive for obvious reasons.
If you can only attract attention to yourself by trying to get everyone to look at you, are you selling yourself very short. Do you have any inner values that might please others? If so, why would one want to show off only their body in some strange way in public? It's not about trying to get attention. But why can't I simply let a nude woman know I find her physically attractive? I don't think there's anything overty sexual about it at all... I'd feel quite stupid doing that, but that is just me, and perhaps most nudists. We're at a nudist venue to enjoy not have to be encumbered by clothing, and be around others who feel that way. Period.Ok. No problem with that. If you are very sexy, you won't have to lift a finger to show it. If you are not sexy, trying to assume a sexy pose will make you a laughing stock. That's obvious.
However, I'm civilized enough to realize it's a feeling for that moment in both the case of a textile or nudist environment. I have a right to my thoughts and feelings. I do not have a right to act on my sexual feelings because of the public venue, and because I do not know the woman. Even in private, I would not necessarily act on my sexual feelings, because the woman may be offended by my actions.
It's simple, really. Be a gentleman, and think about the well-being of the woman, instead of your own sexual thoughts. She has her own feelings, and they should be respected.
It's not a sympathetic and simultaneous feeling of sexuality. Just because you have sex in mind, does not mean the other person has the same. That is how we behave like civil people for the most part, in public - not acting on our selfish thoughts.
Instead of thinking about acting on your sexual feelings, in some way, think about making a friend out of her first. Who knows? You may develop a nice friendship that is not based on purely sexual bonding. You may find that you like her life accomplishments, her thoughts, skills, quirks, humor, personality, etc. Without that, you're avoiding the complete woman, and that is a certain impoverishing of your own life. But even if I find someone physically attractive, I may not have sex in mind. That's it.
You might be happier at a swinger resort, Lookatme. I'm not insulting you by saying that. It's just that you would enjoy yourself there more than you would at a traditional nudist resort. To me, swinger means partner swapping. I'd be neither looking for sex nor such swapping. I'd be just looking for a nude public environment where I can enjoy being nude with other nude people, just like in a nude beach, but not expected at all to hide my attraction feelings. Find out about them on a search engine. After reading up on them, you might decide that they are the way to go. They're not for everyone, but then neither are traditional nudist resorts.
A nudist resort is just like a "G" rated beach. The only difference is that nudist don't have on any clothes. The behavior is identical in both cases; just the outfits are radically different.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 01:20:27 AM
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well in my years of going to a nudist camp i have seen several folks - yes men escorted to the gate for attracting to much attention, at the beach which isn't monitored as much can also attract a ranger or cop when someone is offended by someone attracting to much attention to themselves. there is a time and place for everything, when i go to the beach or nudist camp i want to soak up the sun, swim, hike, read a book and chill out.
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Bob Knows
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 11:26:52 AM
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I'm sure you have seen men escorted to the gate, Sailawaybob. There is far too much anti-men discrimination in organized nudism. That needs to change.
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 1:54:36 PM
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It's true that there is a degree of discrimination against men - specifically, unaccompanied men - at some nudist venues. I had a conversation with a manager at a well-known resort some years ago. He told me that their "No Single Men" policy was the result of years of unhappy experiences at the resort. The overwhelming majority of complaints lodged with the management (some of which ended up in court) involved unaccompanied men acting like jerks. I'll spare you the details. At some point, the owners decided that they didn't need the hassle and liability. They required any unaccompanied person (male or female, but there were very few single women) wanting admission to be sponsored by a member of the resort, who would assume responsibility for his/her conduct. This cut way down on bad-behavior complaints, and, interestingly, had no adverse effects on the bottom line.
One could argue, with some justification, that this is an unfair form of profiling, along the lines of "Since most terrorists are Muslims, most Muslims are terrorists." No doubt there are many perfectly respectable men who have been denied admittance to nudist resorts because of such policies. But ... resorts are private property, and the resort owners aren't stupid. Many have concluded that a completely open-door policy is simply bad for business.
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rahel
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 2:01:32 PM
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I am enjoying swimming in the ocean "au naturel"
rahel
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Diger
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 4:04:29 PM
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That's the way life is Doc, it only takes a few jerks to ruin it for everyone. That's why we don't set by and let jerks turn our nude beaches and resorts into meat markets.
I personally have confronted a couple of pervs at Apollo Beach in years past. Does that make me an unfair person, I don't think so.
Diger
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 5:46:23 PM
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Nope. More like an unsung hero, I'd say.
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 8:49:24 PM
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Bob Knows i think there is a line that some cross that isn't acceptable most nudist camps i have been a member of or visited had kids and when those are warned and don't take the warning they should be ban from the camp, there were numberous single males at the camp i belonged to and the majority had no problem. as for the females some had issues with to much alcohol at times and were also warned by management. and diger i agree apollo has had some problem with unwanted conduct m/m and m/f i usually stop and stare and they will stop maybe a better idea will take a picture maybe that will scare them.
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lookatme
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 10:30:13 PM
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Originally posted by Diger
That's the way life is Doc, it only takes a few jerks to ruin it for everyone. That's why we don't set by and let jerks turn our nude beaches and resorts into meat markets.
I personally have confronted a couple of pervs at Apollo Beach in years past. Does that make me an unfair person, I don't think so.
Diger
Are you implying that, by your standards, I'M A PERV?
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Diger
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 10:56:15 PM
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One of the pervs I confronted was a guys parading around close by everyone sporting an errection. Now if you are behaving like this guys, Yes.
The intersting part of the story is it would have gone down on it's own even though he was wanting it to stay up. You see he would touch it every now and then to keep it up.
Lookatme, trust me when I tell you, your not going to get an errection just from seeing a naked woman unless you are looking to. You see, that looking to part, is what makes a perv.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 11/30/2011 : 11:06:23 PM
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If I'm thinking about all this ahead of time, does that make me a pre-vert?
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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Bob Knows
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 10:30:46 AM
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Changing the focus slightly.
One of the "generally accepted" standards I would like to change is the nonsense about always sitting on a towel. Earlier this morning I was looking through some photos on one of the Yahoo nudist groups, and in close to 100 photos of various nudists around home, NOBODY was sitting on a towel. At nudist groups and venues the "rules" require naked bodies to carry towels to sit on. I suspect that few, if any, naked at home people carry a towel around and sit on it most of the time. Perhaps it comes from a fear that even though "MY" behind is clean, "YOUR" behind is suspect or dirty. I don't sit on towels at home either. I wash. I go to a nudist event, spend an your in the hot tub, soaked head to foot, and when I get out I'm required to sit on a towel just because. Its one of the "generally accepted" rules that always irks me.
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 11:33:07 PM
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well bob you pose a interesting question when you think about it if you sit on the side of the pool or on a seat in the hot tub your butt is without a towel and i guess i have sat in a chair a few times without a towel but i do perfer a towel and at home i'm usually nude in my tv room (man cave) which is separate from the living room, here i have a blanket that i lay on and a separate blanket if i want to coverup and of course every couple days it gets washed. i guess at clubs it just good manners to sit on a towel.
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lookatme
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Posted - 12/03/2011 : 05:50:18 AM
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Originally posted by Diger
One of the pervs I confronted was a guys parading around close by everyone sporting an errection. Now if you are behaving like this guys, Yes.
The intersting part of the story is it would have gone down on it's own even though he was wanting it to stay up. You see he would touch it every now and then to keep it up.
Lookatme, trust me when I tell you, your not going to get an errection just from seeing a naked woman unless you are looking to. You see, that looking to part, is what makes a perv.
Diger
Well, yeah, if he was really doing that, then that guy was clearly trying to bother the people there.
What I'm saying is just... Honestly, what if I or whatever guy who goes to a nude beach gets aroused (i.e. erection) simply from seeing a nude woman he indeed sees as attractive. Why keep harassing him asking to cover up his reaction to what he feels? Is it THAT bad? And most important, why should he keep those feelings private? Are they THAT bad? Is really any woman going to faint to death just because the sight of her nude body caused an erection or because a man honestly let her know he likes her body? Think.
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Diger
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Posted - 12/03/2011 : 12:15:58 PM
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Lookarme,
What you will findout is your not going to have an errection just from see a naked female. When everyone is naked it's not a sexually charged atmosphere. Now if you stare and lust after the lady long enough you may get an errection but that gets into being a pervert again.
Even if it was as you said, and you got an errection, would it be fare to the the ladies for you to make them uneasy and maybe cause one of them to never go back after her husband spent years trying to get her to that point? I don't think so.
So many of the guys here complain that they can't get their wife's to go to a nude beach or resort with them. I know if you messed up some guys first trip to a nude beach with his wife you may not get out of their in one piece.
Now dude, show us you aren't a troll and post about someting other than errections. The count is 20 posts of nothing but Boners.
Diger
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Some changes I'd make to what's generally accepted
