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Originally posted by FireProf

I have several questions for those that are so pro Republican/Conservative that they can only answer;

Do you oppose the war?

For what reason are we/were we in Irag and Afghanistan?

Are you against the Mosque being built near the site in Manhattan known as Ground Zero?

Why is it that when people in this country that are willing and in full support of sending our troops to another country to help them....it's called patriotism...but when someone opposes it and thinks that the monies spent on war and helping other countries should be spent here helping our own people without health insurance, homes to live in, food to eat...they are labled as .....liberals?

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Originally posted by sailawaybob

fireproof i m against any war that our elected officals won't let our militay win, korea, vietnam, iraq, afghanistan. if our leaders fought world war 2 like our troops do now hitler would have won and i don't blame the troops but the president and congress, its a war fight it like a war or leave.

yes i am against the mosque at ground zero, and the muslims who are building it know its wrong, to me it will be their shrine toward 911.

as for healthcare no one is turned away at a public hospital its the law and thats why tax dollars fund them, but don't take my choice away.

and as for food and housing how come i drive a 1997 pickup truck and by generic food at the grocery store but the couple in front of me have steaks, and name brand soda whip out their food stamp credit card to pay and go out and get in their 2008 silverado 4 dr pickup and they leave and go to their subsidized apartment that rents to others for $800. but only pay a couple hundred. you say i don't know what i'm talking about 25 years law enforcement saw and seen alot.

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Originally posted by FlCpl4NewdFun

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Originally posted by FireProf

I have several questions for those that are so pro Republican/Conservative that they can only answer;

Do you oppose the war?

For what reason are we/were we in Irag and Afghanistan?

Are you against the Mosque being built near the site in Manhattan known as Ground Zero?

Why is it that when people in this country that are willing and in full support of sending our troops to another country to help them....it's called patriotism...but when someone opposes it and thinks that the monies spent on war and helping other countries should be spent here helping our own people without health insurance, homes to live in, food to eat...they are labled as .....liberals?

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Not sure if I meet the criteria to answer, but what the heck!

1. No. If I lived in a country where my daughters couldn't get an education and risked having acid thrown in their eyes for reading a book, or where my wife couldn't vote, or even go outside without a male escort or risk being arrested and stoned, I for one would be thankful other countries didn't take an isolationist view of the world and only had concern for its own citizens. Every human being deserves to live in freedom and be treated with dignity and respect, not just U.S. and European citizens. BTW, I'm a veteran who served in the army during the first gulf war so I do have some perspective on the issue.

2. C'mon, way too complex to answer here, but see number 1 above. However, I suppose the real answer is oil.

3. No, in theory. But personally yes, I find it extremely distasteful and I hope the opposition prevails in it's attempts to stop the project. I know you're familiar with the old saying: Just because one has the "right" to do something doesn't mean it's the "right" thing to do. Anyway, the developers are just using the media to attract funding for the project from muslim countries because the economics don't work.

You know, exercising in dissent against the government can also be an act of patriotism.

And what's wrong with being labeled a liberal anyway? If one's a liberal they should wear the label proudly. I must be one because I want everyone to have health insurance, a home to live in, and food to eat.

Oh wait, maybe I'm not because I want people to earn it for themselves through hard work and determination and not have it given to them by MaMa Pelosi.

Cheers!

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Originally posted by Bill Bowser

Engaging in political discussions seems pretty pointless to me. It is little more than a dialog of the deaf, everyone talks, but no one listens because their minds are already made up. It is truly a case of "For the believer no proof is necessary, and for the non-believer no proof is sufficient."

Obviously many people enjoy political debates, but nothing ever gets accomplished. The reasons that people adhere to their political views often have no logical basis. Liberals generally seem to adopt positions based on emotion while conservatives take a more pragmatic view. I suspect that neither has ever switched sides as a result of a discussion.

This soap box is now available for the next speaker. I'm going to the hot tub. Would anyone like to join me?

Bill Bowser - Cincinnati

Nudists are everywhere, but they're hard to identify with their clothes on.

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