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Posted - 03/25/2011 : 1:26:06 PM
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Warmskin,
You want us to watch these propaganda videos, which could be false, it has been known before that videos and photos have been touched.
But you do not even take the time to read Balataf or my own responses. You would have known that I am a she not a he.
Balataf,
What happened in Morocco, was the return of the King Mohammed the 5th or 6th in 1956, when the French Protectorate ended after 40 years. So slowly all the Administration was given back to the Moroccans, and the French had to go. I left in 1962 with my brother and went to live in Paris.... etc... etc...
Rachel
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Posted - 03/25/2011 : 10:16:07 PM
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Rahel did not say that there wee no Israeli troops, checkpoints, etc., in Palestine. I just covered that. She said that there is no OCCUPATION. Currently, the Golan is the only OCCUPIED area in the World, since that of Iraq ended 5 1/2 years ago.
From the Hague Convention, article 42.
Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.
The currently recognized legitimate authority in the West Bank is Fatah, that in Ghaza is Hamas. That is because they won elections in those areas.
When I was in Viet Nam, the POWs captured by the Regiment were all turned over to the free Government. We did not appoint them, and their local officials were responsible to SaiGon, not to the Americans, because we never OCCUPIED any part of Viet Namm. A small part of Cambodia was occupied for three weeks only.
Obviously yuo did not read my posting about why you misunderstood Rahel's post, or you do not care about the clear meaning of the world "occupied." It refers to MILITARY GOVERNMENT only.
Violent and unsavory, many points are debatable, but the film clips do not show a MILITARY ADMINISTRATION in the areas.
Among the other distortion problems. Any women in that all-covering clothing can be a suicide bomber, or have a weapon hidden. I faced problems like that in my service time.
With a familiy murdered in its sleep last week, and 21 people at the bus stop bombing two days ago, my sympathy is more with the VICTIMS who were willing to make peace, rather than those who reject it.
THIRD TIME Please answer.
Hezbollah set up artillery batteries in the yard of an elementary school in a residential neighborhood, and shelled a group of farmers in Israel. What should Israel do to protect the innocents?
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Posted - 03/25/2011 : 10:29:53 PM
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well said, Balataf
But Warmskin is not interested in LEARNING
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Warmskin
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Learn this, Rahel. Judging by your statements that are in denial of truth. You see the obvious brutality, and then try to cover it up with pre-fab propaganda. According to your cover-up statements, the brutal troops well inside Palestine are not really there. Who, pray tell, are those ugly troops with their green uniforms, and those silly turtle shell helmets. What does your next would-be brain-washing statement say about the obvious?
You're frustrated with me, because I don't buy into the nearly infinite number of lies that come out of Israel everyday. They remind me of the Soviet Union and all of its lies. So, yes, I don't learn lies, I learn the truth, and we both know that Israel is the best of the liars in the world. I can dredge up more incidents of their lies.
Here are some quotes for you to digest, and let your next statements reflect on the truth, and not on crooked, ancient, and superstitious statements of Israel.
"The Israelis are becoming increasingly like the white supremacist South Africans, viewing the Palestinians as a lower form of life, not hesitating to kill a great many of them."
"You cannot define the loss of human life in terms of the number of Israelis killed by brutal, savage, inexcusable Palestinian terror. And it does take place. The fact of the matter is that three times as many Palestinians have been killed, and a relatively small number of them were really militants. Most were civilians. Some hundreds of children." --Zbigniew Brzezinski
We Gentiles are all a bunch of pigs in the eyes of this fine religious leader.
Sephardi leader Yosef: Non-Jews exist to serve Jews[/b]October 18, 2010
JERUSALEM (JTA) -- Israeli Sephardic leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef in his weekly Saturday night sermon said that non-Jews exist to serve Jews.
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” he said during a public discussion of what kind of work non-Jews are allowed to perform on Shabbat.
"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat," he said.
Yosef, the spiritual leader and the former chief Sephardi rabbi of Israel, also said that the lives of non-Israelis are protected in order to prevent financial loss to Israelis.
"With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Israeli,” said the rabbi.
Israelis a Totally Different Species?
Rabbi Mendel Schneerson, the late Israeli Lubavitcher and friend of the senior George Bush, also believed Israelis are a superior Master Race. Many Israelis today agree with the late Rabbi. Some even believe that Schneerson will himself someday be resurrected and return as the Israeli World Messiah. Schneerson once explained his theory of Israeli racial superiority this way. He said, "We have a case of the Israeli...a totally different species."
"The body of a Israeli," Schneerson bragged, "is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul...A non-Israeli soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Israeli soul stems from holiness."
Holocaust activist Elie Wiesel also claims that Israelis are a superior race. "Everything about us is different," Wiesel boasts. "Israelis are ontologically exceptional."
There you go, Rahel, be proud of these deficient Israeli leaders who are mentally ill. Hmm, is this what it is to be a superior race? Kill all non-Israelis? If you accept the entirely bogus line that these folks are the master race, then why do you praise these people that behave like spoiled, out-of-control brats in a supermarket? There is your dichotomy.
Odd, to see the Israel and the old Nazi Germany claiming of the same thing for themselves -- the master race. Sick, sick, sick. I reject this Zionism, as do many Jews of good conscience. I personally know a Jewish person who is against Israel. And for good reason, I'd say. She rejects neoconism, and Zionism, and this master race nonsense that pervades Israel. Interesting stuff.
I am ever grateful to be an American where we don't have to put up with this tripe. I fear for the lives of actual innocents in Israel, because each Israeli abuse of humanity, and each snotty attitude Israel has about non-Israelis will come back to haunt them at a point in the future. I would hate to see it, and hate to see innocent people die, but Israel is on a crash course to its critical mass of implosion from within, and total rejection from without. Israelis have a very poor sense of proportion, as Harry Truman said. This is their Achilles Heel.
"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." Thomas Jefferson
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 02:54:35 AM
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Israel currently runs the biggest concentration camps in the world. That is costing them huge disapproval by the world, except for spoon-fed Americans get their "info" from the mass media. Here is another nail in the coffin of Israel's concentration camp. Interesting, the Nazis also ran concentration camps.
Maybe you will learn something from this, Rahel. Of course, to do that would mean subscribing to the truth and to humanitarianism, which I'm sure you would, once your stated mistakes are cleared up.
Swiss President announces plans to break Gaza siege
March 24, 2011 posted by Veterans Today ·
Swiss President and Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey
23/03/2011
GAZA, (PIC)– Swiss President Micheline Calmy-Rey has announced her country is developing a project to open up all crossings to the Gaza Strip, which has been suffocating for the last five years from an Israeli blockade.
She also said if Egypt would agree to open the Rafah crossing to bring in building materials and commodities, her country would be ready to restore it.
The statements came Monday during a meeting with several high-profile politicians in Europe staged by the European-Palestinian relations council.
They met to discuss Switzerland’s role in supporting the democratic movements sweeping the Mideast and issues affecting Palestine.
Discussions included British MP Lord Andrew Phillips, member of European Parliament Alexandra Faith, MEP Derek Vaughan from Wales, and Swiss MP Geri Müller.
For his part, Lord Andrew Phillips, who headed the delegation, said world silence was to blame for Israel’s obstinacy, saying that Tel Aviv understands that silence over recent attacks has provided a green light for more attacks.
Swiss MP Geri Müller emphasized the importance of Switzerland’s role in preserving the Geneva Convention brokered in the Swiss capital and stopping Israel from violating it.
Switzerland has recognized elections in Palestine and kept contacts with both Fatah and Hamas.
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rahel
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 12:57:22 PM
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You are sick Warmskin, and you are the one who believes all theses lies.
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 2:22:35 PM
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The embargo on building materials came after a large divesion of charitable donations of them to military bunkers.
Warmskin, why are you claiming that Rahel denies that there are Israeli troops in Palestine? She never said, and neither have I. But there is NOT ANY OCCUPATION, WHICH IS A MILITARY GOVERNMENT. The occupation ended over a dozen years ago, when Arafat took over.
This should not be too hard to understand.
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 5:36:10 PM
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It gives me great relief to be on the moral side of any given topic, and this one is no exception. In the past, for a lot of issues, I have changed my mind, based on facts that affect people in general. However, this is one case where no change of mind is needed, because the evidence is overwhelmingly affirmative for my side of this discussion.
Anent your statements, Rahel, that there are no occupational Israeli gestapo forces in the West Bank and Gaza, you forget the world knows what is going on in Palestine. It keeps getting worse for the militaristic fans out there. To wit, the following:
From the International Court of Justice:
Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall
in the Occupied Palestinian Territory
Advisory Opinion
The Court finds that the construction by Israel of a wall in the Occupied Palestinian
Territory and its associated régime are contrary to international law; it states
the legal consequences arising from that illegality
THE HAGUE, 9 July 2004. The International Court of Justice (ICJ), principal judicial organ of the United Nations, has today rendered its Advisory Opinion in the case concerning the Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (request for advisory opinion).
In its Opinion, the Court finds unanimously that it has jurisdiction to give the advisory opinion requested by the United Nations General Assembly and decides by fourteen votes to one to comply with that request.
The Court responds to the question as follows:
- “A. By fourteen votes to one,
The construction of the wall being built by Israel, the occupying Power, in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, and its associated régime, are contrary to international law”;
- “B. By fourteen votes to one,
Israel is under an obligation to terminate its breaches of international law; it is under an obligation to cease forthwith the works of construction of the wall being built in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, to dismantle forthwith the structure therein situated, and to repeal or render ineffective forthwith all legislative and regulatory acts relating thereto, in accordance with paragraph 151 of this Opinion”;
- “C. By fourteen votes to one,
Israel is under an obligation to make reparation for all damage caused by the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem”;
- “D. By thirteen votes to two,
All States are under an obligation not to recognize the illegal situation resulting from the construction of the wall and not to render aid or assistance in maintaining the situation created by such construction; all States parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12 August 1949 have in addition the obligation, while respecting the United Nations Charter and international law, to ensure compliance by Israel with international humanitarian law as embodied in that Convention”;
Still say there are no Israeli soldiers in Palestine, Rahel. I've heard some slick sales talk, but come on, no troops in Palestine? That is just plain ridiculous, and every shred of evidence proves the opposite of what you say.
You can call it propaganda when the truth is revealed, but I call it enlightenment when the burdens of falsehood are lifted. It's like flipping over a 4 by 8 sheet of plywood and seeing all the bugs crawling around underneath. Those bugs are the Israeli leadership. Naturally they are angry, and so are their pom-pom waving fans, when the light is shed on them.
Then they come up with statements that rival only a five year old child who just gave a lot of feeble excuses for having chocolate crumbs all over his/her mouth and chin. The whoppers then come forth, silly as they are, to explain away the obvious, but to no avail.
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 5:56:40 PM
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Originally posted by rahel
You are sick Warmskin, and you are the one who believes all theses lies.rahel
I got this out of an Israeli newspaper. Sorry, Rahel, your post just lost another round. Your statements are remarkably juvenile, but then when a whole philosophy is built around jingoism and paranioa, these things will happen. I can't blame the individual person for latching on to these ideas, and being stuck with defending them, because their peers do the same. Most folks go along with their peers; that is always true of any people. However, an extraordinary person with a full enough conscience to be a dissenter takes the courageous stand, at risk of life and limb, and for him to say this type of lunacy is not fit for that dissenter's state is the intelligent thing to do.
What is sick is that Rabbi. However, his ideas comport with the Talmud, which states much the same thing. Not only is this the unvarnished truth, even the ADL is having fits over this leading Rabbi in Israel. So, tell me, Rahel, is the ADL lying, too.
No, tne sickness is with the leaders of Israel. Imagine the Pope, or Billy and Franklin Graham making the same statements about the Israelis. They would probably have been assasinated by now.
Here is another gem from this lovely rabbi:
Let our enemies and those who hate us die," Yosef said then. "[PA President
Abbas] and all these evil people should perish from this world. God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians."
Got this prize from Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli newspaper.
Yet more from Ha'aretz:
Palestinian U.S. envoy Maen Rashid Aerekat slammed the Rabbi's remarks, saying they were paramount to incitement to genocide.
“We are very disappointed. It comes from the spiritual leader representing large party in the coalition, large segment of the Israeli society. When he makes such incitement against our leadership and the Palestinian people – he is actually telling thousands of his followers to harm the Palestinian people," he said.
"People in Israel whine about Palestinian incitement after sermon in some isolated mosque at the West Bank – and when someone like Ovadia Yossef says something – the Prime Minister doesn’t even have a decency to say: “I am opposed to it, I condemn it."
"Internal politics for the Israeli leaders today is more important than even their own principles. It‘s an example of the Israeli official incitement. Unfortunately, it didn’t get the condemnation from the Israeli leadership it deserved," Aerekat added.
From ADL was this statement issued by Abe Foxman:
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/5879_62.htm
ADL Denounces Ovadia Yosef Remarks As Hateful and Divisive
Jerusalem, Israel, October 19, 2010 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today condemned comments made by Rabbi Ovadia Yosef as hateful and divisive, saying they "contribute to an atmosphere of hatred and a global trend of intolerance."
During an October 16 sermon, Rabbi Yosef, spiritual leader of Israel's Shas Party, reportedly said, "Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel …Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat…"
Abraham H, Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement:
"It is disturbing to see any religious leader, and particularly Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, use their podium to preach such hateful and divisive ideas. His words echo far beyond the walls of his congregation and contribute to an atmosphere of hatred and a global trend of intolerance.
In a world where bigotry and prejudice are prevalent, it is especially important for religious leaders to use their influence to teach respect and acceptance."
Well, Rahel, sometimes you need to have someone give you facts that contradict your pre-conceived opinions. That is called growth in one's course in life. I allow myself to be challenged, and in doing so, it gives me the chance to change my mind, or to really find out facts that re-enforce why I think as I do. Either way, I become more learned and philosophical. Don't let this chance for your growing either. It's an exciting journey through life, but don't clutter it with false and self-serving ideas of other people or groups.
I'm my own man, as it should in America. I see all innocent peoples as the same when it comes to their rightful place in the universe. Some peoples go off on a wild tangent and convince others to go along with them, as in the case of Jim Jones and his gang, back in the 1970s. Jim Jones and Zionism are similar in significant ways. Both groups got way out of hand. This was to the point where many people in the Jewish community condemn Israel as a black eye on a whole, and ancient people of old Judea.
There is no doubt, ever that what befell the Jewish people in the concentration camps ran by the Nazis were horrific. However, as that Jewish parliament member said, his grandmother was not killed by the Nazis so that the Zionists could have a cover when they exterminated Palestinian villages at the hands of Begin and Sharon.
So, there you go, authoritave quotes, from the ADL and a major Israeli newspaper, yet you blame me for what he said. Do you realize your statements sound illogical? Facts versus fantasy. No contest. You can't seem to provide facts, but rather just condemn the messenger who has no dog in this fight.
What is your next statement going to be like?
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 10:00:33 PM
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Quoting Shas for Israel is like quoting George Wallace as a representative of America.
If you wish to PRETEND that there is an Israeli military administration that
runs the police, utilities and other things on the West Bank and Ghaza, I don;t know what to say. Hamas and Fatah do those things in the world the rest of us live in.
My research shows that the occupation ended in several phases from mid-1994, to termination in July of 1995. Israeli occupation was succeeded by Arafat then becoming President. Israel still continues security patrolling in parts of Palestine.
The UN's propaganda resolution misuses the term. Many international agreements date the end of the occupation to 2005, which was after this 2004 document.
This error on occupation is similar to your previous error in claiming that any and every foreign policy Hawk somehow became a Neocon.
There is such a huge difference in the level of violence, as in when the Arabs murdered the farm family and kids, and bombed 22 commuters at the bus top. When Israel made peace with Egypt and Jordan and offered a generous treaty to Arafat, the Palestinians refused everything. Isaeli Arabs have democratic rights and are elected to the Knesset. Etc.ETc. Etc. It is hard to see equivalency, much less superiority for the consistent murderers.
The moral question is "front and center", of how Israel should protect the innocent citizens. Anyone so corrupted as to be unable to answer that is not worth wasting time on.
I am not attacking any person, only a morally blind and slimy, irrational position ON AN ISSUE.
UNLESS THERE IS A COHERENT ANSWER TO MY QUESTION THAT WAS REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE SCHOOLYARD ARTILLERY TACTIC USED BY BOTH HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH, I WILL NOT POST AGAIN ON THIS SUBJECT. A LACK OF ANSWER IS AN ADMISSION THAT THERE IS NO LOGICAL COMEBACK.
Everyone is invited to review the past few pages for comments.
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 10:01:42 PM
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Warmskin,
It is very easy to tell me that I do no respond with any "facts". What I am going to tell you that I am sick of your rambling and insults to anyone intelligence.
You obviously are absolutely brainwashed. This is too bad.
Secondly, if you only read Balataf, YOU NEVER ANSWER his very precise questions.....
I can read that you are absolutely without any power to understand any logic.
Balataf is extremely patient with you. I AM NOT.
I know what I know and you do not seem to know too much.
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 10:32:53 PM
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Rahel, you have yet to counter anything I'm saying with documented facts. All I do is quote from sources that I believe to be independent, and from those sources such as videos that emulate the old TV show, Candid Camera.
I can't believe you have been actually been trying to deceive folks here by saying what they are seeing didn't actually didnt' happen, even though the video is more cogent than you will ever be in your statements. Therein is the inherent weakness of your argument. You only get emotional instead of logical.
Further, I don't engage in dialogue where someone uses all capital letters, because that is shouting, thus not civilized, but then Zionism is not civilized either.
I will be glad to provide more and more condemning evidence of the gestapo effects of the Israeli Zionist thugs who oppress Palestine. They do that by maintaining the largest concentration camps in the world.
Let's see -- the Nazis abuse and kill many Jews decades ago, and then the Israelis take that out on the Palestinians by committing mass murders against them and harrassment of them.
Wow, that makes a lot of sense.
The difference between us is that I am free to criticize America, which is my nation of choice and birth, but you cannot say anything against Israel. Why cannot you ever critize Israel? Are you trapped into making statements that serve only Israel, yet are entirely non-factual. You have to admit that Israel has made some mistakes vis-a-vis the outer world. To have any other opinion is not logical.
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I must say it's nice to be able to agree with the world. I would feel awful if I bucked the whole of humanity. I used to be a huge fan of Israel for a long time. I do give myself credit for being free enough to change my mind as facts tell me to do so.
from:
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/views_on_countriesregions_bt/325.php?nid=&id=&pnt=325&lb=btvoc
Israel
Israel is viewed quite negatively in the world, possibly because the poll was conducted less than six months following the Israel/Hezbollah war in Lebanon. On average, 56 percent have a mainly negative view of the country, and just 17 percent have a positive view, the least positive rating for any country evaluated. In 23 countries the most common view is negative, with only two leaning towards a positive view and two divided.
Unsurprisingly, the most negative views of Israel are found in the predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East, with very large majorities in Lebanon (85%), Egypt (78%), Turkey (76%), and the UAE (73%) having negative views.
Large majorities also have negative views in Europe, including Germany (77%), Greece (68%) and France (66%). Indonesia (71%), Australia (68%) and South Korea (62%) are the most negative countries in the Asia/Pacific region. Brazilians (72%) are the most negative in Latin America.
The two countries that tend to view Israel positively do so in modest numbers. Forty-five percent of Nigerians and 41 percent of Americans have positive views of Israel's influence in the world, while nearly one-third in each country has negative views. The Kenyan and Indian populations have divided views of Israel.
Because this is the first time the survey has included Israel among the countries rated, there is no evidence that its current ratings are better or worse than before.
If I were an Israeli leader, I would take not of this problem and try to improve on it by consulting with the UN and restoring the original plan set forth by that deliberative body. I would seek an agreement wherein both Arabs and Jews would both feel they came out with something satisfactory to all factions.
Once settled, Israel could experience a better world opinion of it. Small as the planet seems to be, that is their only way out of trouble, and the only way they can survive for a long time to come.
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Another example of Israeli justice. Very sick stuff. Yet, there are a few that will support the following crime.
BEITUNYA, West Bank --Israeli motorists sprayed a group of Palestinian high school students with bullets from American-issued assault weapons on Thursday, Sept. 17, killing one youth and wounding another, witnesses and doctors said.
The eyewitnesses said the motorists shot without provocation. The shooting occurred around noon in the West Bank village of Beitunia.
Witnesses said about 10 high school students were walking along the main road on their way home from school when a vehicle with Israeli license plates pulled up near them.
The passengers rolled down their windows and began firing from a pistol and an assault rifle, said Raed Abdel Rahman, 17, one of the students who escaped injury. "Everybody started to jump and take cover," said Rahman.
A high school student who was also on the scene, Hassan al-Qadi, told reporters, "They were shooting randomly."
The wounded were taken to nearby Ramallah Hospital. Iyad Rahwa Qarabsi, 17, a high school senior described as an outstanding student, was shot in the stomach. He died at the hospital about an hour later, according to Ramallah hospital director Shauke Harb.
A doctor described the cause of death as bullet wounds from an M-16, an American-made, military assault rifle that Israeli settlers and soldiers carry.
15 year-old Mahmoud Issa Jabarin was in stable condition; also with a stomach wound, hospital officials said.
At the family home, Qarabsi's mother collapsed on the floor and wept over the murder of her teenage son. "My beloved, you didn't come home with your schoolbooks today!" she sobbed.
Ibrahim Murar, the principal of Beitunya's 700-student Palestinian high school said, ""He was one of the very best students in the school. School was more important to him than anything else."
After being held in custody for three days, the Jewish gunman, Avshalom Ladani, 35, a member of the West Bank settlement of Dolev, was released by Israeli authorities. Ladani immediately joined a party at a Jerusalem hotel where he was feted as a hero.
"We call on all [Jewish] residents to view Avshalom's behavior as upstanding citizenship," declared an advertisement placed in Israeli newspapers by the Yesha Council, a settlers' group. The ad said the Jewish killer was being "persecuted."
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu refused to condemn the shootings of the Palestinian students. According to the Sept. 21 Washington Post, "His aides pleaded extenuating circumstances..." They said the killer had been "provoked."
Israel and their acolytes are very good with their canned, pre-fabbed truth-avoidance statements. A party thrown in honor of a killer? Come on, folks. Only in Israel. Maybe this is what Rabbi Ovadia Yosef was referring to--killing all non-Israelis is a good thing to do. A bit like complete extermination. Hey, the more Palestines you kill, the bigger the party thrown in your honor. Gollleeee, sounds moral to me, Jethro. Sigh.
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Posted - 03/27/2011 : 09:34:05 AM
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I submit Warmskin's refusal to answer a simple question as public evidence, a self-confession of moral bankruptcy ON THIS SUBJECT. Disagree with the World? his problem is disagreement with REALITY.
W, you seem to be a good, honest person in general, and I look forward to friendly debates in the future. We seem to agree on many more subjects thn we quarrel on.
Open discussion. It's a free country!
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