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FlCpl4NewdFun
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Posted - 05/03/2008 : 5:05:34 PM
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Cheri - I'm surprised to hear that, because I know cigarette sales are way down in the U.S. over the past decade. The lion's share of revenue from the tobacco companies now come from overseas, particularly Asia in countries like China and India. Maybe the younger ones are picking it back up, that's too bad, because Gen X'ers like myself did and still do have a lower smoking rate than previous generations. Not sure what they are calling them these days, I think the one's in college are Gen Y and middle school kids are now the marketers coveted Tweens.
Yes I agree the vast majority of smokers are not out to be rude or trying to offend non-smokers. I think if clubs had well defined and enforced smoking areas than everyone would be able to play nice in the sand box together. Sounds like your club has that. Unfortunately that just hasn't been my experience to date.
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tooldady
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 Posted - 05/03/2008 : 7:37:32 PM
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I am not a regular smoker and I hate the smell of cigerettes, but one of my favorite things to do now and again is have a cold beer and a good cigar, while relaxing in a comfortable lougechair on the beach. I do try to respect a non smoker if I know they are and I even try to light up away from others cause I know most do not like smoke in there faces.
Thanks, Tooldady
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EuroTim
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 06:03:30 AM
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I think smoking is banned in private clubs as well, but I have an idea there can be a vote in favour. I am against smoking, but am surprised it is now illegal to smoke in a phone box!
Hi Tim (from another Tim!), I realise that a year has passed since your post, but I just wanted to say that if you were allergic to smoke, as I am, you would understand why it's illegal to smoke in phone boxes and lifts. The residue that's left, even if the smoker is long gone and the cloud has dispersed, is enough to cause me to have a serious coughing spell and inability to breathe.
The banning of public smoking, in any venue, for me at least, is an answer to prayer.
Tim
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nuderebel
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 09:05:15 AM
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I have to say, that I am proud of my wife. She quit smoking 4 months ago, and she feels much better. She only started smoking when she was 40 (going through a divorce), so I hope not too much damage was done. She is 52 now.
I do have an occasional cigar, but only where allowed.
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SirGodiva
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 11:34:15 AM
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I never have smoked and am against smoking. At a nude beach, I can tell when somebody lights up a cigarette 20 feet away. A nude beach is where we enjoy nature as God created it; therefore why pollute the natural with tobacco smoke.
I do understand that some people are addicted. We don't want to exclude them from the nude beach.
Naturally, Lester
Did not God create tobacco as well? Was it the devil who created us with the capacity to roll it?
"Call nothing unclean that I have made clean."
Edit: And as far as the issue of the government is concerned, regulating smoking on government lands is one thing, but when government has the audacity to say it can regulate the policies of private businesses in any measure, it has committed an act of unmitigated tyranny. In New Jersey they did it through labour laws. We're falling down the path of France.
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brazhunter
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 12:05:17 PM
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Did not God create tobacco as well?
God made molten lava, too, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to play in it.
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SirGodiva
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 12:28:45 PM
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Did not God create tobacco as well?
God made molten lava, too, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to play in it.
You can't smoke molten lava, nor is it delicious. Clearly that wasn't its purpose.
Of course, aside from the occasional cigar or pipe I don't smoke. I'm also an atheist. However I found even in a religious context that that argument was ridiculous. Do we pollute the natural by having a porcelain toilet at a nude beach? Or by having fiberglass boats in sight of the shoreline? If God gave us the capacity to create then I can't understand anarcho-primitivism in a religious context.
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brazhunter
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 1:25:50 PM
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I can't understand anarcho-primitivism in a religious context.
Okay.... then why did you put it in a religious context in the first place?
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Tuffers
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 3:24:19 PM
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30 all.
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SirGodiva
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 5:02:55 PM
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Originally posted by brazhunter
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I can't understand anarcho-primitivism in a religious context.
Okay.... then why did you put it in a religious context in the first place?
I didn't, catbird did.
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brazhunter
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 5:47:50 PM
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I didn't, catbird did.
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You're right. My bad.
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OLD BUZZARD
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Posted - 08/11/2008 : 1:43:56 PM
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when we were young many years ago we didnt know how harmful smoaking was.now that it has been proved that it is very harmful to the human being. i smoked for 25 years and the light finally came on.i quit cold terkey in 1980 and havent had one since then. i think it still is a personal choice for a person but it has been proven that it IS bad for a person to smoke.i cant tell my son to quit as it is his decision,but i can tell him i dont approve of it. each to his own..........old buzzard
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Calbob
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Posted - 08/12/2008 : 1:49:53 PM
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The nudist resort that I belong to, Laguna Del Sol, has a special smoking section in the sunning area at the main pool. With the smokers all congregated in one place, the non-smokers don't have to put up with someone lighting up next to them and having the breeze blow the smoke their way. Here in California, of course, it is illegal to smoke in any public building or establishment or in the workplace. When visiting other states, I'm always taken aback when a restaurant hostess asks, "smoking or non-smoking?" Since the Indian Casinos are souverign, smokling is allowed indoors there, but now there is a trend where many of them have separate non-smoking slot rooms.
I will say, as a non-smoker, that in the last 40 years or so the smokers have become more considerate, asking if others mind if they smoke (even outdoors) or moving away from others to have a smoke. It used to be that they lit up anytime, anywhere, and if you were working next to them and breathing their smoke, there was nothing you could do about it.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 01/12/2009 : 01:27:01 AM
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There is another way to look at this. Can anyone identify the precise health benefits of cigarettes? No? Okay, fair enough. Does anyone think cigarettes are perfectly or inert inside your body? Well, that would be a stretch, because cigarette smoke is not inert. It has high reacticity in your body. Hmmm, what to say. If it cannot be 100% neutral, and can give you no medical benefits, would it be outrageous to deduce that cigarettes are then harmful, given that no one can show any benefits to smoking, or can show that the smoke is inert in your body?
As Calbob aaid in his messgage, Laguna Del Sol does have a separate section at the main pool for smokers. Also, smokers are nicer, too. Perhaps they are now aware of its effects. I congratulate them for being more considerate. Thank you, folks. Your efforts are much appreciated. 
I can then only conclude that cigarette smoking is bad for you. Next question!  See attached photo for old cigarette ad.
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Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto."
Thomas Jefferson
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 01/12/2009 : 08:32:25 AM
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I was pleased to see a recent survey that indicates that the smoking rate in the US has actually dropped to below 20%. Considering the difficulty in quitting, the money spent marketing cigarettes, and the sheer cultural inertia, This is somewhat amazing. At this rate, the US may have more nudists than smokers in my lifetime!
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