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Tuffers
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Posted - 08/11/2007 : 2:53:01 PM
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The results of drinking and driving is as, if not more dangerous than breathing in second hand cigarette smoke but they are both antisocial habits that we should not be subjected to. Even walking down the street, why should I have to breathe in that filthy cancer forming smoke following a smoker. That said every time a truck or a bus, or for that matter a car goes past I have to inhale less than fresh air. Perhaps i should become a recluse at a nudist commune somewhere out in the wilds!!!
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EuroTim
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 Posted - 10/16/2007 : 3:44:08 PM
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Originally posted by Tim
I am against smoking, but am surprised it is now illegal to smoke in a phone box!
I'm allergic to smoke and if I have to use a phone, I would not be able to use a phone box where someone had been smoking. No one should have the right to force me to breathe their secondhand smoke when I have need of a public utility such as a phone.
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Diger
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Posted - 10/16/2007 : 11:28:21 PM
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Tim,
Here in the US Pay Phones are becoming hard to find, but I agree with you about secondhand smoke. The wife and I went out to eat the other day, the first time since the new federal law against smoking in public buildings. We could not believe the difference in how much fresher it smelled.
Diger
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beachnudist
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 10:06:22 AM
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I am a smoker. I have been off the cigarettes for six months on my last attempt to quit. I am going to have another go in a couple of weeks. I do agree with the smoking bans in bars, restaurants and in all workplaces. A person working in a bar, club or anywhere else should not have to inhale second hand smoke. Even as a smoker I now much prefer the smoke free environment in the restaurants etc. Its no big deal to go outside and smoke and I have had many interesting and pleasant conversations with people who were also outside smoking. Actually that has been one of the positive effects of the rules for smokers. I never smoke in the house or anyone else’s house even if told it was ok to do so. Out in the open I think it should vary. If you are in close proximity to other people then I don't think you should smoke if it will annoy them. However a blanket ban on smoking outdoors in public places is a bit over the top and a waste of time.
One place that I think that there should be a small smoking area is in the departure gate area and transit areas of airports. Air travel can be stressful enough without depriving us poor smokers of our nicotine. The only airport that I have been in that dose this is Shannon in Ireland which was the first country to introduce smoking regulations. The fact that it is a stop off location for US forces going to and returning from Iraq may have something to with it. There was and could still be a smoking area in De Gaul airport in Paris complete with chairs, tables and ashtrays located in the shopping area underneath a NO SMOKING sign!
Most smokers are not deliberately inconsiderate of others and will try not to offend. Some may not be aware of how they effect others as Pat has described very well and then we have the others who insist that they will not be dictated to no matter how much it bothers others.
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jim19452
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 10:43:01 AM
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Peanut butter and numerous other substances can cause severe reactions. Most people haven't any reaction to cigarette smoke and second hand smoking is not a health problem for most. It is for some. Should peanut butter be banned?
Best Wishes, Jim
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 11:32:57 AM
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A Modest Proposal
I'm all for smoking. Over time, it will gradually eliminate from the gene pool those who are mentally incapable of appreciating its deleterious effects. In the meantime, the hundreds of thousands of premature deaths caused by smoking will help reduce the financial burden on Social Security, leaving more money for the rest of us. Lastly, as a physician, I must acknowledge my deep appreciation of the tobacco industry. They have provided me with rock-solid job security and a comfortable income for 20+ years. So by all means, light one up now! I'll see you later.
Doc
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boomdriver
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 7:18:54 PM
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I am a double-lung transplant survivor. I can tell you first hand that the operation and rehab is not the most fun way to spend a summer. Don't think that you can smoke your lungs out, then just sign up for a new pair. Donors are in very short supply, as there a exacting specifications that must be met, due to size, etc. Being finally at the top of the list does not guarantee that you will get the next set of lungs available. I waited several years for mine, and at the same time you must keep yourself in good enough condition to survive the operation. This is not easy- if you are sick enough to need the transplant, working out is the last thing on your mind. Save yourself the agony- leave the cigarettes in the carton!
I'm sure I think I said what I probably meant, but maybe not.
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SFbayGuy
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Posted - 11/09/2007 : 7:09:11 PM
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Cheri, and those who think government will not try to intrude into your private home life I give you Belmont, Ca. California is the leader in government restrictions on private matters.
http://www.nbc11.com/news/14307719/detail.html
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 09:11:43 AM
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SFbayGuy, We happily live rural, under the control of no city, on 7 acres. I would not live in a multi-unit, multi-story residence. It is stil allowed in stand-alone domiciles.
Part of the article: "Thought to be the first of its kind in California, the ordinance declares secondhand smoke a public nuisance and extends the city's current smoking ban to include multi-unit, multi-story residences."
"Smoking will still be allowed in single-family homes and their yards, and units and yards in apartment buildings, condominiums and townhouses that do not share any common floors or ceilings with other units."
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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jim19452
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Posted - 12/09/2007 : 07:26:52 AM
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jcmt4,
Didn't try the patches but from what I've read they are better than the gum. The gum worked for me but I restarted. The habit of smoking was much harded to overcome than the addiction. After I went cold turkey, the addiction was totally gone in 3-4 days the habit haunted me for a several weeks but I endured.
Best Wishes, Jim
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Bare Warrior
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Posted - 12/09/2007 : 1:20:41 PM
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Anytime a person smokes where non-smokers and children are present it is a Public matter. There is no longer a legitimate debate about second hand smoke being a major cancer and other health creator, it conclusively is. I have had 2 doctors tell me, and an NPR report, that smoking is the cause of 70-80% of all hospital stays in the US and alchohol is the second largest contributor.
Besides if people were farting in front of you all day you would get pissed off too. And cigarette smoke smells a lot worse than a fart, in the air or on a person.
So stop with this privacy angle. Its lame and without substance. Lets face it, smokers lack respect for themselves and others. Thats why they bitch so much.
Bare Warrior
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jim19452
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 08:37:58 AM
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Originally posted by Bare Warrior
There is no longer a legitimate debate about second hand smoke being a major cancer and other health creator, it conclusively is. I have had 2 doctors tell me, and an NPR report, that smoking is the cause of 70-80% of all hospital stays in the US and alchohol is the second largest contributor.
Bare Warrior, A World Health Organization study in Europe (Finland perhaps) that apparently has been supressed in the USA concluded, among other points, that second hand smoke reduced the odds of lung cancer. A judge awarded money to airline hostesses of polar flights because of second hand smoke but the evidence did not support the judge. Who cares it was the PC thing to do. I do not believe the 70% to 80% statement, largely because it came from NPR, but I'll try to check it out.
Best Wishes, Jim
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nomad6
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 1:20:22 PM
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what is the percent of people who smoke. the great state of tennessee definitely has its share of smokers. ive gotten on to people before about their smoking habits and they tell me youve got to die from something. i say tell those people in wheel chairs that having had bad strokes or walking around with an oxygen bottle and a hose line. ive even been to peoples houses before who have a no smoking oxygen in use sign and have a cig all lit up
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Diger
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 1:36:58 PM
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Nomad,
Telling them that won't do any good. I've seen patients at the hospital pushing their I-V pumps or oxygen cart out in 20deg weather to the smoking area. Not to mention the back of their gown flapping in the breeze. LOL
Diger
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beachnudist
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 08:01:04 AM
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Well hopefully there will be one less smoking nudist soon. I started my Chantix program yesterday. Quit date is next Monday. First thing I noticed is that it made the cigarettes taste horribly mouldy. Makes them very hard to smoke, but I still want to. Let you know how it goes.
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