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DKS
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 Posted - 10/03/2007 : 11:23:45 PM
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I think discrimination comes in many forms. Advice was given earlier that you should seek a club that you are comfortable with which, isn't bad advice. I visited Native Woods resort a month ago and although I did not get an opportunity to enjoy the "Free Outdoors" because of my work commitment I did find the opportunity to sit and visit with the owner a pleasant one. I was told by a nudist when I first expressed an interest in the lifestyle that southern groups were not friendly to minorities and I must say that isn't the whole story. What I have found (at least I want it to be true) is the management of these facilities are more concerned with preserving the interest and integrity of not only their businesses but the freedom of having a clean, wholesome family oriented recreational retreat for a lack of better words. An organization policing their own is far better off than a basic choice being taken away from you. They really desire to have an environment where the customers feel comfortable and at ease that everyone's there to enjoy a natural lifestyle. No one wants to feel as if they are in some way threatened to include the presence of a single male who will prey on the women in their lives. But at the same time one should not feel isolated from the main either because of their situations in their lives. Not making any excuses but people are only human... which leads to the fact that the you and only you know your present situation and you find a group or environment that supports your needs.
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 08:25:51 AM
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jcmt4, I know from past experience of rejection at the gate of two resorts. 1 in Can. and 1 Flausa even with AANR card, the feeling of being turned away because I was single at the time, was lousey to say the least.
Cheri"s response is the answer here.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 01:08:17 AM
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Originally posted by catbird
Yes, that has been my experience too. Just show your AANR card and you are cheerfully welcomed.
However if you want to join the nudist club, that's when you experience discrimination. You likely will get the response, "Sorry we are not accepting single males, at this time, because we maintain a gender balance."
Naturally, Catbird
That's exactly the response (Lame excuse) that I got when I tried to join one of our landed clubs here in Minnesota. The fact is that the world is heavily populated with single male nudists, and there are enough nudist couples to fill up the few facilities that we have available in short order. They just don't need us.
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Tuffers
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 07:03:35 AM
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At our club, when we joined in 1977, yes there was the tendancy to accept only couples and families but as the years have gone on more single people of both genders have been welcomed, and so may it continue.
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balataf
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 11:52:22 PM
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The non-landed club, Phi Nu (Philadelphia Nudists) evens have both single men and single women quite often. Melissa Starr was one example. The normal ratio has been tilted to a surplus of males, but without any problems or misbehaviors. Various events have had ratios like 8 women, 13 men and one little kid, or 17 Women, 23 men and 6 kids.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 11/21/2007 : 12:54:28 PM
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I understand wanting to have some sort of balance, in part to make the females present feel more comfortable.
But…
A. For any single females who may be looking to meet someone, (and I realize that not all singles of either sex are "shopping",) I would think that the higher ratio of men to women would give them a greater selection. (Although, that certainly doesn't help a single man who is looking to meet a lady, so there's NO vested interest for guys.)
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B. I would bet my last dollar that any landed club that tells me they are not taking single males at this time or even that they are full, would still take any female in a New York Minute, under any circumstances.
Don't get me wrong, I love 'em and wish more participated. But just because many don't, I don't feel I should be excluded. And I do feel excluded and discriminated against. I think it's about time that people admit that we are victims of discrimination no less than every other special interest group.
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Posted - 11/23/2007 : 05:15:46 AM
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Nudeisntlewd I agree the single male issue is real and isn't pleasant. Clubs have no problem attracting single males, they have a problem attracting single females. One club owner told me, bring a female with me and there wouldn't be any problem. They have had problems with too many single males, until more females discover the benefits of nudism and not sexism, the males will suffer regardless.
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Cheri
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 10:06:53 AM
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Originally posted by jcmt4
do married-male nudists feel threatened by single-male nudists?
Some married men do, others don't. My husband doesn't mind who is around as long as they're people of good character. Some of our single nudist club members are the best!
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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Diger
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 6:20:24 PM
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I think whether or not a married male feels threatened depends on his wife’s comfort level. Before Mrs. Diger was comfortable being nude, I was more uptight about single males, just because of her discomfort. In most cases it has taken a married male, literally years to get his wife to the point of trying nude recreation, and his dreams could trashed by just one jerk.
Since Mrs. Diger has become comfortable with her nudity, we have met and talked to many single males of good character as Cheri has stated.
Diger
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palmer
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Posted - 12/04/2007 : 10:27:47 PM
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I've gone to nude beaches with several willing girlfriends through the years before I got married. From what I'm reading in this topic, it implies that if I attended a nudist club with a girlfriend... but broke up with the girl a few months later... I would no longer be welcomed at the club as a single male? That's not cool.
I would no longer be welcome at the club but a single female who knows no one would? Sounds like a bunch of fake friends and perverts to me.
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Posted - 12/05/2007 : 03:44:42 AM
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Palmer I'm sure you'd be still welcome at the "club" . The topic refers to afew clubs with policies of families and couples ONLY .
Some clubs have this rule meaning to join you must not be single in most cases, "males" are turned away due to the fact females are not lining up to join or cause trouble they claim.
Its their club and their loss too bad !
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Fulldraw
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Posted - 12/05/2007 : 11:26:03 AM
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I am a married guy that usually goes to resorts or nude events by my self or with other nudist friends. My wife enjoys the lifestyle too and enjoys the small get-togethers but does not like the atmosphere when others around are not nude and this includes resort staff, and just won’t get undressed of she feels there are gawkers around. So we together never go to large events or resorts anymore.
That leaves me with going by my self and I have never liked that. I always feel like I get the evil eye and quite frankly others at the events are not quite as friendly as when I am with someone. I guess that is understandable. I do think it is much harder on a single man.
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Diger
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Posted - 12/05/2007 : 5:34:18 PM
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I'm not saying it's fair but there is a reason behind the unfairness. Mrs Diger, like Fulldraw's wife is uneasy if she feels gawkers are around. The only difference is she will not let it stop her from enjoying her nude day, but she will still let me know when some guy makes her uneasy.
Some resorts would have even less Females if the number of Males ran unchecked. Again I realize it's not fair, but most resorts bend over backwards to keep the females happy.
Personally I'm glad they do.
Diger
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Diger
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Posted - 12/08/2007 : 11:46:51 PM
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jcmt4,
I'm not sure what an acceptable ratio would be, but we have been on beaches that the ratio is from 5 to nearly 10 to 1. This is fairly common at unregulated places such as beaches. Mrs Diger has become comfortable in her skin over the years and as long as there are at least a few women she dosen't mind. Of course the behavior of the others has a lot to do with her comfort level also.
This summer we had our first resort experience and we saw as many women as men. Once Mrs Diger was the only woman by the pool with four guys and once I was the only guy there with three women. I'll have to say it was a far more relaxing experience.
If I had to answer the question I would have to say 1 to 1 would be nice but 3 to 1 is not bad.
Diger
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Posted - 12/09/2007 : 09:41:56 AM
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Acceptable and comfortable is the reason for their policy. Diger so true beaches see ratios of males 20: 1 female . This forum we out number females greatly and a lot of couples here, the females are reluctant to particpate. The reasons being theirs ?? vulnerabilty, body image am i guessing yes, only they know for sure. They don't like being out numbered they've said and resorts try to keep them happy and content.
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