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StatePowerlifterChamp
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 Posted - 06/22/2004 : 1:31:34 PM
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Hello to those whom it may concern,
My name is Dexter and I am new on the forums. I had the chance to check out Gunnison beach for the first time yesterday when it wasn't too crowded. I checked out the beach and the people, and I was a little upset to see that it lacks young true nudist people. There are a lot of older men and fat 50 years+ and the majority was either gay or old. I hope this doesnt offend people on this board, but Gunnison beach needs younger people. It also needs more people in shape, attractive and of course straight, not old, fat, and gay. Because of this, I had no motivation to undressing and enjoying the ocean nude. Instead, I left all clothed up, disgusted and disapproving. But I do not give up here..I will continue going there (probably on a nice saturday) when theres a lot of people. I just dont feel belonged in a beach like Gunnison, knowing im the youngest. Does any of you have any idea when/what time the youngins hang out? I am 18, and would like to meet a few fellow young naturists. Thanks all
Dexter
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NudeAl
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 2:18:30 PM
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Well I've never been to that beach but as a general rule you will find more young people on a weekend. Unfortunatly I know the kind of crowd that tends to gather on a weekday at a nude beach. It can be sort of well, depressing I guess. Your best bet is to find a group that meets there regularly and get to know them. There must be some non-landed groups that you might join out there. Another idea might be to bring along a volley ball and net. Nothing brings out young active nudists like volley ball on the beach. Good luck, and keep trying you'll get there.
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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AinNY
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 4:02:22 PM
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I'm 24...when i was there i saw a decent amount of younger people(30ish and under...there were even some around your age)and a lot of pretty good looking people...of course that will never be the majority, b/c so many young people have issues with nudity. I was there about a month ago on a Sunday. I think you just have to find a decent spot on teh beach and suck it up.
Personally i dont care who is there...im not getting naked to impress people or to be impressed by other people. Do it b/c its what you want to do, not because you want to look at good looking naked people(they have strip clubs for that).
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Pat
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 4:05:48 PM
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It sounds like you both go to look at others & not to enjoy the freedom of being nude yourself. Don't be so conserned with what us older folks look like in a few years it will be you.
Pat
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FireProf
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 Posted - 06/22/2004 : 4:45:11 PM
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This is an example of the problem we have today with younger people and nudism.
The younger crowd is looking, at these nudist venues, for what the media and mainstream society has forced down everyones throats as the people that should be the only ones going nude.
I was once a long distance runner in high school. For those in California, I was a CIF participant, in that I was successful enough to go on to state level competition. I played football in high school. I played defensive end. I am still active and try hard to exercise but I have put on weight from my high school days. Many nudists our age don't weigh the same as they did when we were in high school or when we were in our 20's, 30's or 40's.
I get a little irritated when some young, new nudist starts bad mouthing the very people that paved the way for them to experience nudism in a public, social setting. Be careful young nudists, you will be older, overweight, wrinkled and grey someday too.
"True Nudist" accept people for who they are not for what you think they should be or look like.
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groovy41
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 5:59:30 PM
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Hey there my husband and I went two years ago and we had a great time! In fact I got naked there in 2001, talked to some people they were nice this one dude had clasic rock blasting out of his boombox, and that was awesome! I was wondering does anyone know of any great places near that place it is also called Sandyhook NJ. Have fun and keep on smiling!
groovy
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StatePowerlifterChamp
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 6:32:09 PM
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Im not really looking forward to getting old. I am just trying to enjoy nudism the young way. It seems as if there's a big blurred grey line between the fundamental ideas of youn naturists and old ones alike. I agree 100% that people should be proud of who they are, but only in certain circumstances. For example...Older people should work out too you know? Here the NJ powerlifting association has many old people who still lift weights. This one old man I know is currently 85 years old, and benching 275, squatting 390 and deadlifting 405. I really don't think age is an excuse to be a couch potatoe or to become fat. The point I am trying to make is..that there is a BIG difference between laziness, and dedication (motivation)when it comes one's body. Only if these "fat" and "old" people would bother even going to the gym..it would greatly approve how proud they are of naturism, and how they "accept" who they are. But being a couchpotatoe and then going out to a nude beach is like trying to fulfill a psychological problem that they accept who they are, which they really dont (extremly unhealthy and illusionary). If they really accept who they are..they would get up at 6am in the morning to run 5 miles, and in the afternoon workout in the gym for 2 hours with weights. Now that is true naturism! Loving your body.. and caring for it with respect! Any interesting responses to this young naturist theory?
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Cheri
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 6:36:16 PM
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You might contact Friends of Gunnison Beach, an AANR nonlanded club, that meets regularly there.
Best regards, Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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FireProf
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 6:58:57 PM
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Young Powerlightingchamp,
Did you find out at all who these people are? Are you willing to find out? You state several things here that contradict everything naturism is.
Don't be so quick to assume all those overweight, grey, old people are just couch potatos. You may be surprised to find several used to be state champs in the mix. And even if there are a few couch potatos, they are really nice people and are fun loving nudist such as yourself.
Talk to some of them and find out who these people are. Don't just talk to the so called "pretty" ones. If that's what you are looking for, you're really not going to find that many. Those types aren't in the same frame of mind to nude in public as you are.
There are many other restrictions some mature nudist face that keep them from rigorous exercise that you are able to do as a young person. The point is, don't be so quick to judge a book by it's cover.
Most nudist are more mature and have gotten past the nude=sex. Many young people have not yet gotten past the nudity=sex issue and so younger people think that nudism is all about sex.
You make a good point that has been addressed. Some nudists should take better care of themselves, eat better and try and exercise more but just because you see an older, overweight, grey haired nudist doesn't make them less a person or a "true nudist".
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 10:22:19 PM
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Dude,
Lighten up! Lifting weights isn't for everybody. I've had a heart by-pass at 40, and I don't take as good care of myself as I should. But in spite of my limitations, I try. And yes, this is a current picture, taken November 2003. I just turned 48, and I'm fighting aging every step of the way. Just the same, I may not make it to 60. (Sorry, I know you regulars have heard all this before, but I think the point needs to be illustrated sometimes.)
I understand that you are looking for people your age who look like and are like you. But the the world is filled with a variety of people, and they aren't all your contemporaries. They aren't all your age, don't all look like you and aren't all like you. Do you feel that those different from your ideal need to be segregated? My best suggestion to you is to either go and enjoy yourself or don't go and miss out on the comfort of skinny-dipping, because every age and body type will continue to go to the beach whether or not you choose to. New people are born and others die every day. Part of the recylce bin of earth. In time, you will be older and approach the recycle bin yourself. Think of that when dealing with people different from yourself.
I'm not trying to preach and make you feel unwelcome, but you need to learn a more diplomatic approach to meeting people and finding information than going into somebody else's place and insulting them. That is one good thing that will come with age, and hopefully before age.
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FireProf
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 12:24:08 AM
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Randy,
Amen brother!
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 03:10:50 AM
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Dexter,
I hope I didn't sound too harsh. No offense intended and no hard feelings, I hope. But I think a lot of people might have been insulted by the way you came across,and I thought I should say something.
Randy
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AinNY
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 09:11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Pat
It sounds like you both go to look at others & not to enjoy the freedom of being nude yourself. Don't be so conserned with what us older folks look like in a few years it will be you.
Pat
Who are you referring to with "you both", b/c i dont think you read my post right if you are including me in that post.
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AinNY
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 09:23:19 AM
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Dude...you are very confused.
I appreciate you coming here and being honest. Thats a big step. But you have to respect the wishes of everyone else. Not everyone desires to work out. Not everyone sees a problem with being "overweight". Not everyone sees "overweight" as "ugly". There are these so called "overweight" and "ugly" people EVERYWHERE...clothed and unclothed....why should not wearing clothes be any different. Its just like going to a regular beach. You will see the same type of people.
To me it seems like you are still very immature...you seem to have some of your own issues. Including the fact that you think you are better than people on teh basis they dont look as good as you. You also seem to be slightly homophobic. No offense, this is just what it seems like from your post.
The bottom line is....its not about whos looking at you. Its not about who you're looking at. Its about being nude b/c you want to be nude and enjoying the beach in that state.
There is a reason the crowd is older...its b/c most young people cant handle it...and cant remove the sex aspect from being nude...and you are proving that point.
Why most of the country is "overweight" is another issue....no need to preach that here. You are right about that...but thats a totally different issue. And we cant judge people based on looks, and say "fat people are not allowed on this nude beach". If you do, then you are a shallow human being, but that is your choice. I thought we got away from excluding people based on looks after the civil war 
I dont care who is at the beach as long as they are good people...thats all that matters.
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FireProf
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 10:32:28 AM
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AinNy,
I went back and read your initial post...I didn't get the sense that you were thinking the same way as weightlifter AT ALL.
We've all bought up some good points and arguments on this topic. What I hope is that young weightlifter is not feeling ganged up on and will read some of what we've posted and try and understand what "true nudists" are.
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AinNY
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 11:03:32 AM
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AinNy,
I went back and read your initial post...I didn't get the sense that you were thinking the same way as weightlifter AT ALL.
We've all bought up some good points and arguments on this topic. What I hope is that young weightlifter is not feeling ganged up on and will read some of what we've posted and try and understand what "true nudists" are.
I got ya
Yes...i wasnt trying to come off as beign mean to him...we just want him to learn/understand where we are coming from. I respect his views, even though i do not agree.
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