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worldetm
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 Posted - 05/23/2004 : 5:46:49 PM
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Join us for the Ponderosa Sun Club Nudes-A-Poppin pageant this year (JULY 18, 2004)CLOSEST NUDIST RESORT TO THE CHICAGOLAND AREA....Anyone interested in going? We have a great luxury Vacation Home East of Chicago about 20min from the event. My wife an I were hoping to get at least 6 couples together to go. Email me for more details on the 3day package July16-19 and pricing...accomodations DO NOT include airfare (includes tickets to event & lodging)...We can find you a great airfare if you'd like for us to make the arrangements for you....Openings won't last long.
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Cheri
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Posted - 05/24/2004 : 3:16:13 PM
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Please NOTE::: Ponderosa is NOT a nudist park for this event. There are way too many videographers and photographers as well as alternate lifestylers to be called a nudist event.
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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FireProf
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 Posted - 05/24/2004 : 3:33:44 PM
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You can say that again Cheri...
I have yet to see the goings on (pictures, only pictures) at Ponderosa mirror those of a Nudist Resort...at least the day of this Nudes a poppin event. Just wish they wouldn't advertise themselves as a Nudist Resort, gives those that raise an eyebrow to us already cause to raise the other!
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naturalgar
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 Posted - 05/24/2004 : 4:42:20 PM
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At one point I thought they were legit. But some stuff I've heard & seen makes them seem more like a strip joint.
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vealj
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Posted - 05/25/2004 : 10:06:33 AM
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Ponderosa was the very first nudist club where I was a member. They are a nudist club during most of the year, HOWEVER, as Cheri notes, they are nowhere near representing nudism during "Nudes-a-Poppin" events.
These are voyeur events where the contestants are from strip joints and the visitors are frenzied men with cameras trying to take as many pictures of naked women in a short time as they can.
Most of the regular members stay away during those weekends.
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
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FireProf
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Posted - 05/25/2004 : 10:38:54 AM
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vealj,
Soooooo.....Ponderosa is a nudist club? Does the club then rent itself out to this event each year?
If this is what main stream society and textiles see as a nudist resort and what goes on in a nudist resort, we just took two steps backward. Is Ponderosa in any way affiliated with either AANR or TNS? I could probably go into their website and see....
Just got back from their website. Not affiliated with either organization that I can see. They promote themselves as a family nudist resort and the schedule/calendar of events looks very much like any other nudist club except for that one day they have the Nudes a poppin thing. I just don't see how making the money they make in one day for this event is worth the message they are probably sending to those we are trying to convince that Nudes a poppin isn't what goes on in clubs or resorts.
Anyone here ever been there recently and have any info on the club or why they allow this event.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/25/2004 : 4:29:21 PM
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You can see all the pictures from "Nudes A Poppin" at http://www.voyeurweb.com and judge for yourself.
Kim =^.^=
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vealj
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Posted - 05/26/2004 : 3:00:21 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by FireProf
vealj,
Soooooo.....Ponderosa is a nudist club? Does the club then rent itself out to this event each year?
... Is Ponderosa in any way affiliated with either AANR or TNS? I could probably go into their website and see....
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Anyone here ever been there recently and have any info on the club or why they allow this event.
Yes, Fireprof, Ponderosa is a nudist club. They throw the Nudes-a-Poppin event themselves to raise money for the club - they don't rent the club out. They probably pull in 40-50,000.00 per event. I think they do one or two a year. The rest of the time the club is a nudist club with about 250 members with trailers on site.
Ponderosa has never been affiliated with AANR or TNS by choice. The used to have their own organization they tried (United Nudist Congress) as an answer to the ASA and NNC but it never took off beyond Ponderosa.
The Nudes-a-Poppin event evolved from an innocent enough beginning. The owners were attempting to introduce the general public to nudism and at the same time raise money to help defray raising club dues for the members. I was at the original brainstorming sessions where we came up with the idea for a nude beauty pageant open to the public. The first two events were held using women club members in an effort to demonstrate real nudism. It was hoped the spectators would stay and try out the facilities afterwards. Unfortunately the only folks who chose to visit were voyeur types that wanted pics of naked women. The women club members wouldn't enter the pageant after that so the owner made a deal with a strip club promoter to get girls from the strip clubs as contestants and the Nudes-a-Poppin events evolved from that.
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
- veal
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FireProf
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 Posted - 05/26/2004 : 7:32:27 PM
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veal,
Interesting history of this event. I can see why they may have trouble turning away 40-50K for such an event, that's alot of $$ for a club.
Too bad they can't attract more members so this type of event doesn't have to take place.
Thanks for the information.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/27/2004 : 03:16:49 AM
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Vealj do the owners of Ponderosa understand what type of publicity they are giving nudism, or do they care?
Kim =^.^=
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vealj
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Posted - 05/27/2004 : 3:05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kimberly
Vealj do the owners of Ponderosa understand what type of publicity they are giving nudism, or do they care?
The owners of Ponderosa are a single family and they have always been an independent lot. They don't really give much thought to what the national movement cares or thinks about.
Mostly they began the contests because the nudist club down the road (which was called Naked City at the time) was having outstanding success with their nude pageants. They were making large amounts of money and garnering national publicity too so Ponderosa felt they could do the same.
To be fair, most of the nudist clubs in the country at that time were also conducting nude "beauty" pageants only they called them "Royalty" contests and they weren't open to the public.
I think the nudist movement has pretty much left the meat parades behind as it has grown up over the past decades. Now if they could just inform the Miss America and Miss Universe contests that they're out of date, maybe the textilers will realize meat parades are just that and move on too.
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
- veal
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FireProf
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Posted - 05/27/2004 : 3:55:47 PM
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vealj,
Other than the dates of Nudes a poppin...what's the Ponderosa like? What's the nudist climate...same as the rest?, a little more on the adult oriented side?, just curious how this place functions on regular days.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/28/2004 : 03:17:45 AM
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There was HBO documentary once about nudist clubs, and of course they got it all wrong. A lot of the footage was shot at Ponderosa. I think at that time they had the Miss or Ms Nude Universe contest. She was actually a porn star and a lot of the footage was her taking pictures with guys in the open leg posture. It seems like you hear more and more about nudes a poppin, and less about your ever day nudist club.
Kim =^.^=
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naturalgar
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Posted - 05/28/2004 : 09:41:31 AM
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So if Poderosa is getting a great deal of publicity especially for "nudes a poppin"a great majority of people who watch the coverage on TV or in mainstream media are equating that event with normal nudist activities..thats not good PR
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/29/2004 : 03:25:04 AM
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That is what I was eluding to Gary, and that is how Vealj responded. For a lot of people, their only contact with nudity is "Nudes A Poppin", so they think all nudists, or nudist clubs are that way.
Kim =^.^=
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cheef
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Posted - 05/29/2004 : 7:24:29 PM
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Veal... are you sure Ponderosa was never AANR (ASA)?
As I recall history in the late 1980s...
Dick Drost's faux-nudist atrocity Naked City used to hold a similar pageant. When Naked City closed down, Ponderosa saw the opportunity to hold Nudes-a-Poppin and make money. Many ASA members protested, and Ponderosa either quit or was ejected from ASA, rather than stop holding the events.
If anybody has any support of or corrections to my memory, please let me know!
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