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swazplezur
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 Posted - 08/30/2006 : 1:27:59 PM
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Melissastar - The diference in nude photos and pornographic pictures is that porno pics depict penetration and other acts that are not part of nude etiquette. I do have nude photos and post them and allow friends to see and also allow other to take pics provided they ask. Men should not ask for the nudes unless you guys have been chatting for a while and are comfortable with sharing the pics. Keep your clothes off and enjoy nude recreation.
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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 08/30/2006 : 2:18:59 PM
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MelissaStarr and Swazplezur/Fred:
It's interesting how, even in 1957, there were certain loopholes that help define nude photos of nudist as non-pornographic. Observe:
In Roth v the United States, 1957, a man who sold a magazine featuring nudes and erotica lost his case 6-to-3, but they defined obscenity as:
[That] which " . . . to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material, taken as a whole, appeals to prurient interest" and which is "utterly without redeeming social importance..."
Even then, Justice Potter Stewart, said words that have been echoed in cases ranging from Alan Freed to the PMRC Hearings and Tipper Gore: " . . . I know it [obscenity/pornography] when I see it."
This, of course, means: if you know they're not nudists or don't know if they support nudism, why show them pictures of nudism?
If nudist photography is kept withing the nudist community, does it offend the average person? No. Does it follow contemporary community standards? As a community of nudists, we sure hope it would. What would be the dominant theme of the material? Celebrating time spent with friends, family and signifcant others, which should not appeal to 'prurient interest." Finally, since it is kept within a nudist community, celebrates time spent with friends, family, and significant others, and is not lascivious, it thereby has redeeming social importance.
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reverend
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Posted - 09/01/2006 : 07:29:03 AM
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If you want to see nude photography done right go to Domai.com. Granted all are young and beautiful;all pictures are posed but all are done in a non-sexual manner.Yes they pose for money but that will never take away from the fact that they are beautiful.I have no doubt that most are not even nudists I just wish they were.
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reverend
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Posted - 09/01/2006 : 07:59:57 AM
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As for pornography there is only one place for it---in the bedroom between two consenting adults(hopefully one of each sex)
the Reverend
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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 09/01/2006 : 3:44:47 PM
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Originally posted by reverend
As for pornography there is only one place for it---in the bedroom between two consenting adults(hopefully one of each sex)
the Reverend
Amen to that, Reverend
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reverend
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 1:17:05 PM
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IamRoy;Have you ever been to the Domai.com website?If you find porn there then you are the one with a dirty mind.There would be no help for you!
the Reverend
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reverend
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 8:33:13 PM
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Lord forgive those that look but do not see.Those that hear but do not listen.You still have a lot to learn.You're just not getting the picture;you've got the wrong picture.
the Reverend
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silverfoxone
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 Posted - 11/19/2006 : 2:35:13 PM
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well my opinons is, if you take a pic of group of friends you just meet, to remember of good time. but just too take pic, well thats to is the ??????? just remember its the freedom reenjoy of nudism, and some like too share withother, just dont take apic, ask first and enjoy good times you share with your knew friends, and keep smiling, later mark.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 11/20/2006 : 5:27:54 PM
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I hope innocent nude pictures of family and friends isnt porn. Otherwise we have a house full of porn!! What a silly thing to think that pictures with nudity are automatically porn. Unfortunately there are many who DO think that way. In our living room there is a large nude famliy portrait of me, hubby and our three daughters for all to see proudly displayed above our fireplace. In walking around our home you will find pictures of our family, camping,at the beach in our pool, and on various vacations. In many of them we are naked, as they are at nude beaches and nudist vacation spots. Since my husband and I were born, and raised nudists and all three of our daughters were of course raise that way by us, logically most photos of our family in various settings contain nudity. It stands to reason, that if you spend most of your time naked, that most photographic records of that time will contain nudity. Do we take down and or hide all the "pictures that contain nudity", when non-nudist guests visit our home? Of course not. First of all our house would look ridiculous with nothing on the walls and all the shelves bare! Second if you feel you need to "hide" an innocent picture just because it has nudity in it, YOU have just as many issues about it as the person you think you need to hide it from. My 2 cents on "nude pictures"
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 11/21/2006 : 01:57:51 AM
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Jenn
Why is it that everyone one of your posts leaves me feeling envious, I like your outlook on life. You live your life in an idylic way, anyone coming into your life has to accept it or leave, you carry on and keep up the good work.
Pete Knight
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Posted - 11/21/2006 : 02:52:00 AM
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I started my own nudist group on yahoo about a week ago; I am in many nudists group in yahoo. And I must say the level of photos is at times a little below the knee, from the very start no group should allow pics taken and posted if they even seem closely resembling porn. Yet men and woman claiming to be "REAL NUDISTS" are allowed to post porn, and moderators are allowing it, or simply don’t have enough time to follow up
each member. May I also say that I've noticed many are emailing within nudists groups to other member’s nude pics.... why the hell do “REAL NUDISTS’ need to see pics of others laying on a beach.
In my group we will moderate moderate and moderate again, if it will drive the message home to members, porn will not be accepted. Members will be banned if caught posting porn, or children’s pics in our group.
Dennis (Nude den)
Group Web Address: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dens_naturists
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bornnude
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Posted - 11/21/2006 : 07:55:53 AM
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Originally posted by allnaturalwife
I hope innocent nude pictures of family and friends isnt porn. Otherwise we have a house full of porn!!
While I think most people and the courts would agree with you, there are a few people out there who are just "over the edge" and have no grasp of a healthy reality!
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CMx2
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Posted - 11/21/2006 : 11:44:39 AM
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Originally posted by reverend
IamRoy;Have you ever been to the Domai.com website?If you find porn there then you are the one with a dirty mind.There would be no help for you!
the Reverend
Crap! I guess I'm screwed then.
I'm under the twisted impression that soft-core porn is still porn.
You could try to make an arguement that all playboy magazines printed before 1975 are actually artful celebrations of the female body and that they contain zero porn, but I'm just not going to buy that arguement.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 11/21/2006 : 2:55:48 PM
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The problem with exchanging ANY pictures on the internet is that unfortunately you cannot be sure who you are sending that picture to. Someone could claim to be a legitimate nudist and be a complete weirdo. So the basic rule of thumb should be just dont send pictures to people you dont know. I might post a picture on here, for example, of a sunset at an exotic location with maybe me or my husband naked in it, but we are adults and I really see no harm in that. I would never post a picture of my daughters in an open forum such as this one, because even though it would of course be innocent you cant control who would see it. I would have to meet someone IN PERSON before EVER showing them pictures of my family clothed or nude.
As for the argument that "softcore porn" is still porn...I suppose it is. But then again "softcore porn" can also be open to interpretation. For example: Is a picture on the Domai website of a pretty naked girl sitting on a rock pornographic in nature? It depends on whos eyes are looking at it. I would see a pretty naked girl sitting on a rock..whereas someone else might see a lustfull display of sexuality. The same picture of ME naked on that rock could be viewed in many ways. My husband would see it from several angles. Of course his wife,naked sitting on a rock, is pleasing to look at for HIM on many levels..some sexual. So by that logic that picture of me would be porn..because someone/my husband had a sexual though while looking at it? Thats the real question I think.
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 11/21/2006 : 3:53:00 PM
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Originally posted by allnaturalwife
Is a picture on the Domai website of a pretty naked girl sitting on a rock pornographic in nature? It depends on whos eyes are looking at it. It depends on whos eyes are looking at it. I would see a pretty naked girl sitting on a rock..whereas someone else might see a lustfull display of sexuality.
Jenn
OK, what if it was a picture of a handsome young man, is it still pornographic? I think that we are too conditioned to thinking that any picture of a naked girl is too "Playboy" and not art, whereas the nature of the pose is what I think defines porn, not the subject.
I'm not ashamed to say that I think the female form is art in itself and a display of tasteful pictures is acceptable, even erotica can be taseful, but thats entering the grey area between art and porn, and who decides where the line is?
The problem with the Domai.com web site is its all girls, and some may see this as exploitation of women, but from what I've seen (I haven't seen it all.) its not pornographic, but thats only my opinion of course. Had this been a web site of hansome young men in similar poses it could be viewed by some as a gay porn site, but I dare say that lots of women would have gained as much enjoyment as us guys get from seeing tasteful pictures of beautiful women.
If anyone finds the sight of naked people offensive then perhaps they shouldn't consider going to a nudist club/resort.
If men were not attracted to women, then the end of the human race is nigh!
Pete Knight
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