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Warmskin
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 Posted - 09/03/2011 : 10:51:17 PM
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Balataf has introduced a new twist that recommends my answering in the political thread, as to discussions about gov't per se. Nevertheless, I will endeavor to address his thoughts here. I am fully willing to continue to address his thinking in that other thread so that we can continue this spin-off elsewhere.
I am incredulous that he would think that our nation's founding documents are useless today. That is right out of neoconservative alleged "thinking." FDR would be proud of that stuff. Of course, G. W. Bush said the Constitution was "just a g**d*** piece of paper," but who would claim him to be their mental leader? Such confessions!!!
The Founding Fathers are always relevant, because while technology and cultural values change, mankind's nature does not. Mankind will always be mankind, and what rules the self today, will rule the self tomorrow. Hence, human nature is a constant. The Founders worked with human nature in mind. Did you think that people were highly biologically different back in 1787? If so, what changes in basic mankind do you profess here?
The Founders' thoughts are fixed, and have led us in the right direction, although people like Nancy Pelosi and G.W. Bush see no connection between today and our Founders' thoughts. With this continual defiance of our Constitution, people like them have brought our nation to the brink of its ruin. I have no clue as to what nation Bush and Pelosi think they live in.
If our true Founders have no relevancy today, our "Founders" must be George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Nancy Pelosi, Donny Rusmfeld, Obama, Barney Frank, and Biden. Right? Perhaps you're thinking of a different nation, like the old USSR. I'm thinking in terms of American concepts. I happen to think the US Constitution has complete relevancy, but then I'm neither a Democrat or Republican, and that gives me independence of political dogma. I prefer karma to dogma in a manner of speaking, although from my own theological belief system as to what good karma is.
The real Founders would have abhored the mandatory nature of CFLs and other mandates on the free markets, perhaps except for Hamilton. Absolute gov't power over private vehicles has no American value, except to those who want concentration of power in Wash. D.C.
As long as there are free markets, I should be able to choose what I want to do with my after-tax dollars. If I prefer incandescent lights, gasoline-powered cars, that is my business. Unlimited power in our nation's "capital" is a hindrance to my neighbor's and my own freedom to choose.
The other day, I saw a gorgeous 1955 Packard Caribbean on a nearby highway.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexgray/4949577267/
It was pure cherry. White colored and well taken care of. I honked in approval of the car and the driver waved back to me. I'm sure there are some politicians who would love to see that car taken off the road and have it sent to the wrecking yard, so the metal can go to build a 2012 Yugo or something like that. Fortunately for that classic car owner, that sort of law does not exist yet. It's the freedom of choice that our Founders recognized in mankind, as being completely innate, that allows that fellow the right to have that car.
I know of no modern document that has superceded our Constitution and Declaration of Independence because we are inheritantly different today than we were hundreds or thousands of years ago. Nonsense, we are just as free today as we were back then. It's just that we have voluntarily let the politicians rules us to a greater degree. It's our free choice to be ruled as if we were children.
"I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind."
Thomas Jefferson
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Diger
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Posted - 09/04/2011 : 5:54:58 PM
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Warm,
There is also a problem with the LEDs, depending on the color of the bulb they contain high levels of other toxins like lead. I agree they are much better alternative to the CFLs and the mercury they contain.
Diger
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Warmskin
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 12:11:36 AM
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Hi Diger,
I didn't know about the toxins in LEDs. Makes me wonder now! Non-toxic candles? More romantic, to be sure. Other than sunshine, it's difficult to think of a ultra-safe light (keeping in mind that too much sun can be harmful, too. Hanging around fireflies might be safe.
Hmm, maybe darkness isn't so bad after all, or the old incandescent bulb was not so bad either. We just can't win!
"I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind."
Thomas Jefferson
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Bob Knows
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Posted - 09/11/2011 : 7:44:16 PM
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Hi guys. Bob Knows here, new member.
I didn't read all the previous pages so forgive me if this has been said before.
For years I've complained about all the oil and energy wasted on clothing. All that polyester is pure oil. Lots of energy is used fabricating oil into swim suits, shirts, etc. Even "natural" clothes like cotton jeans takes a lot of oil to farm, harvest, and fabricate.
And of course the manufacturing cost in energy does not count all the distribution and marketing cost, or the cost of laundry and laundry and laundry.
The only "green" clothes is naked. Anyone wearing anything more is not sincere about conservation of natural resources.
Blessings
Bob
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Diger
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Posted - 09/11/2011 : 9:48:23 PM
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Well said Bob,
Your going to fit rite in here. Guess I'll be wearing my Green Suit tomorrow. LOL
Maybe we could get Green Suit Mondays at work places all across the country.
Diger
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Warmskin
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 01:16:31 AM
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Hmm, nude is green. Now that is one way to convert some of the textile-obsessive folks to nudism.
Think of all the detergent we could save - that might be green, too. I think environmentalists who don't go nude are hypocrites! Now there is a revolutionary thought.
Could be the start of a new movement. 
"I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind."
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