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HomeNudist
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 Posted - 08/30/2011 : 1:56:22 PM
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Hmmmm, Obama versus Obama. What, the Teleprompter on the left side has different text than the Teleprompter on the right side??? 
What I find most distressing about politics today is the unequal treatment by the press. Example: Within weeks of Perry jumping in the race, his collage records are "leaked" and the whole world can see his less than stellar grades. However, after 3 years, we still have not seem Obama's records. . . and not a wimper from the press.
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balataf
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Posted - 08/30/2011 : 4:55:49 PM
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Well, Warmskin has pretty well achieved his dream with the big ongoing collapse of the Neocon faction, and the old Establishment. The groups who strong;ly backed Dubya hasve mostly lost out.
In the past few days I've seen several strong articles detailing the Tea Party takeover of Repuiblican foreign policy, including a mass trip of 47 Freshmen Congressmen to visit Israel under the sponsorship of anti-Neocon Christian Right groups. The Neocons have lost, and the Tea Party has defeated them. Perry never had Neocon suport, and the entire process is largely a tectonic shift away from the old Party leadership, as the new system gets established.
The demise of groups that supported Dubya, such as the Establishment and Neocon factions has been replaced by the Tea Party / Christian Right as the factions struggle and bargain to make a coherent coalition for 2012. This will require the willingness of the voters in next year's primaries, from local officers up to president, but that process is well advanced.
For one telling, but minor point, I was surprized yesterday when one of my Wife's good friends visited me on my birthday, and mentioned that she, a DEMOCRAT, had decided to back Perry, and planned to re-register. Three years ago, she was for Hillary, then Obama. This was unexpected, given her past support for Obamacare, etc. But she liked his legal reform for the "little guy" in Texas.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 08/30/2011 : 9:14:42 PM
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Whether the necons are on their way out will be easy to determine. For that to be the case, the GOP will return to their old traditional selves and reject wars as they did in the 20th century. All those in the Mideast are by the highly modified GOP. If the GOP wins the presidency, and that president maintains all the wasteful wars over there, then the neocon spirit still will rule the GOP.
If the GOP president, in 2013, calls all the troops home from the Mideast, and swears never to get into any more of the neocon wars, those neocons will have at last been defeated. It's not the names of people who determine if an administration is neocon, it's the guiding philosophy that is either neocon or anti-neocon.
There are still many, many Republicans who think the wars over there are useful to fight, although they cannot go into detail as to why we should be more worried about the Afghan borders than our own borders at home.
The media still is neoconned, and that is so, because for one thing, neoconservatism is not conservatism. Two different words with clashing meanings. That the media, GOP bosses, and the Democrats don't like Ron Paul is a singular message, unprecendted in modern times.
Ron Paul is the shortest way out of neoconism if that is the desire of the GOP, which if not for Obamacare, the remaining neoconism would doom the GOP. Why did the GOP not figure this out back in 2006, when they lost very badly in the 2006 and 2008 elections?
So, let us watch for the cessation of all wars in the Mideast on our part. The trillions spent there would have been better off in the taxpayers' pockets.
The question of the day concerning the potential dismissal of the neocon treachery against America can be partially forecast presently. Would a President Bachmann, Romney, Palin, Cain, Perry, Huntsman, Santorum, all call our troops home, and swear off any more wars over there? Think of each one individualy, and try to imagine him or her doing just that.
See if you can predict which one will bring our troops home as absolutely rapidly as a concerted effort of logistics would allow, after their innauguration, despite all the possible outcomes, internationally, after we pull out.
The one I know would certainly do that is Ron Paul, the ultimate anti-neocon candidate. The other candidates make me wonder.
"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his (and her) conduct."
Thomas Jefferson
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Warmskin
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Posted - 08/30/2011 : 9:21:01 PM
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Originally posted by HomeNudist
Hmmmm, Obama versus Obama. What, the Teleprompter on the left side has different text than the Teleprompter on the right side???
Actually what I had in mind was Obama, the candidate, versus Obama, the president, They are often contrasting, as if they were two people. So, I stumbled into the truth when I said, effectively, Obama v. Obama. He said we'd be out of the Mideast wars in short order when he was a candidate. As president, he's more committed to war, and has gone back on his word about bringing the troops home. So, he is opposed to himself.
I also saw a political cartoon showing a line of Romneys, each pair of Romneys were debating each other, because of the opposite stances taken by him over a relatively short period of time.
It's a bi-partisan problem.
"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his (and her) conduct."
Thomas Jefferson
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Warmskin
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Posted - 08/31/2011 : 01:30:19 AM
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Fascinating link. Guess who gets more military donations than all other candidates combined. Just one guess. After you guess, watch this video that has a lot of charts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al3Nl46VKEk&feature=related
I wonder what the military knows about war. Hmmm.
"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his (and her) conduct."
Thomas Jefferson
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Warmskin
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Posted - 09/04/2011 : 03:26:34 AM
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This video is from a speech given during special orders. Speeches can go on for a much longer time than during normal speeches during regular sessions in Congress.
This speech was given on September 6, 2011. While it may not seem like today's news, classical ideas are never outdated. Also, this speech was a warning about the approaching financial disasters that would face us in later on. A prophet is never honored in his own time. This speech would not be possible if any other politician had tried to give it. They could not be this competent, especially most of today's politicians running for nomination to be a presidential candidate.
Why is it that we elect only ignorant nominees of both major parties? This politician, on the video, is a genius contrasted to all the others, yet he is rejected by the establishment. Thus, we will be governed by ignorant, greedy, ego-maniacal, easily-led politicians. Witness some of the recent past presidents. Can you imagine Obama or Bush giving this speech?
Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDKWm92EvhU
Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfaM2tEayik&NR=1
Part Three (click on the second half of the double-link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KONpt9a6HrI&NR=1" target="_blank"> br / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KONpt9a6HrI&NR=1
"I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind."
Thomas Jefferson
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