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 Posted - 11/01/2006 : 12:34:41 PM
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My wife and I, on our first public nude event, had a problem with a fella with a camera. We were at a beach, and wandered up it to a remote section. We thought we were alone, but lo and behold, when I turned my head back wards to see how far we'd come, there was a clothed man in the bushes aiming his camera right at my wife's back side. As soon as he saw me, he turned his camera and began "shooting" photos of river, the woods, what ever to try to show that he wasn't photographing us, which of course, he was. I glowered at him and he left us alone, but it sure put a chill on the rest of the evening. I kept looking behind every tree and bush to see if we were being spyed on.
We've never been stalked, so it was a surprise.
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Posted - 11/20/2006 : 1:35:40 PM
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I always bring my camera and sometimes a video camera. I want to capture the memories just like a birthday party. People take pictures of me and my wife, sometimes they ask. But we are on a public beach, we can't expect to have the privacy of a back yard. I've seen video cameras trained on my wife for a full 10 minutes while she walks along the shoreline or doing other things. We don't mind.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 11/20/2006 : 5:10:23 PM
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We also bring our cameras when we go anywhere. To us it is no different. Since our family has always been nudists, we dont really see the "nude part" like others may. I will not be denied taking pictures of my children or my husband thet are completely innocent, just because we happen to be at a nude beach or resort. I have a HUGE problem with people who tell me I cant take pictures of my family at a nudist resort or club. To me it is NO different than taking a picture of them on the swings at a public park. Of course we are EXTEMELY careful to make sure no one else is in the picture. I understand that if they did allow free reign of cameras at nudist venues it WOULD lead to negative things. So with the way the world is today the "no tolerance" policy is the way to go. For those of us who are just taking family photos or pictures of our spouses or the like...just keep it discreet. We dont want to create trouble amoung the "ulta-paranoid". Wether they have good reason to be or not.
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Tuffers
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Posted - 11/22/2006 : 2:45:24 PM
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Hi Jenn. Your philosophy is quite right. Tell me, as I will be going to Cypress Cove next year, will they allow photos to be taken of consenting subjects? Sue and I obviously want to capture our holiday experiences for the future.
Mike
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 11/22/2006 : 3:45:13 PM
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We have been to Cypress Cove many times and they pretty much have a "no camera policy" HOWEVER..it is not too difficult to discreetly take photos of your own spouse and or the resort as long as you make sure that no one else is around or in the picture. I understand the desire to capture holidays on film, especially having a family myself. Just be carefull and you should be ok. Make sure you dont bring out the camera in front of any staff or other guests. The "ultra paraniod" might mistake you for being a pervert..eventhough you are only taking pictures of each other. It has always bothered me that taking photos in a nudist environment is sooo taboo. It makes taking innocent holiday photos sometimes a challenge. Being nudists our whole life and taking nude vacations with our girls since they were babies..we have become quite skilled at taking family pictures without incident.
Jenn
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/22/2006 : 6:42:30 PM
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Originally posted by Tuffers
Hi Jenn. Your philosophy is quite right. Tell me, as I will be going to Cypress Cove next year, will they allow photos to be taken of consenting subjects? Sue and I obviously want to capture our holiday experiences for the future.
Mike
Totally changing the subject for which we get yelled occasionally...Whenever you take photos at a nudist park, it is best to ask one of the managers or office staff to accompany you. One time when I was at the Cove, I was at that time acting as an official AANR photographer. Even then some members asked me what I was doing. They are VERY sensitive there. If you're covert about it, you may be asked to leave. I've seen it happen.
Getting back on topic....a resort or club is much different taking photos than on a beach where it's easier.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 11/22/2006 : 7:16:41 PM
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However it you are covert about it..they wont see you, therefore cant ask you to leave..but I do take Cheri's point. Its a fine line really. One the one hand, absolutely no one has the right to tell someone they cant take a picture of their own spouse or the like. On the other hand there are too many weirdos that would take advantage of being allowed to take pictures. So there are really 2 points of view. A nudist venue has to go by the "better safe than sorry" rule when it comes to this issue. Although those of us who just want to take pictures or our vacation may suffer..the alternative of allowing free reign photography wouldnt really be a good idea.
Jenn
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anc35228
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Posted - 01/24/2007 : 12:55:40 AM
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We have taken our cameras to the nude beach many times. I am aware how people may feel about their photos in pictures and so i respect their privacy. If we do take pictures of each other, we make sure that there is NO one in the photo... and we do make it obvious that no one is included, but ourselves. ...Well... with the exception of our avatar. At that time, we had someone else take our photo this past summer.
clothing... completely optional!
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Posted - 01/24/2007 : 02:57:12 AM
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Photography is a right in a public place. Privacy is a right of a non-public citizen EVEN in a public place. There are conflicting rights and laws in this case. A photographer can usually be arrested and charged if they are harassing people, just like a voyeur or stalker can be charged with harassing people; a camera is no protection. You can't disturb the peace.
A person who assaults a photographer or voyeur can also be arrested and charged with assault, usually more serious. Who gets arrested and charged or not would depend on the authority in place, the judge and jury.
In my city, the police are required to arrest and hold one or the other in such a dispute, even arbitrarily, whether they are charged or not, unless the parties quickly decided to shake hands and resolve their differences in a civil manner.
One thing you can do is take the photographer's picture and that of their car and license plate and share it with the authorities. They may obtain enough other evidence to get a warrant to search the person's premises where actionable materials might be found. That's a pretty good deterrent.
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Clark
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Posted - 03/14/2007 : 9:55:29 PM
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If you bring a camera to a nude beach to photograph your self and friends - where can you get the photos developed? Wouldn't the local camera store freak out? Can the be developed if they are tastefully shot?
Try this place.
http://www.dccphoto.com/
You can also look in Shutterbug magazine for labs that offer "uncensored processing." Be aware that even these places will call the cops if they think child pornography is involved so if you're going to photograph your kids it's best to stick to digital.
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schemer002
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 11:03:36 AM
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I wouldn't mind whatsoever if someone was to want to take a picture of me, I love having my picture taken.
For the girls out there, how many are flattered that some guy would take a picture of you because you are beautiful, and how many are offended?
I'd be totally flattered if some girl wanted to sneak pictures of me(my pictures are best when I'm not posing.... I like action shots)
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Posted - 05/16/2007 : 05:04:12 AM
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Sorry in advance for the length, but if you really are interested, please read it all and/or feel free to pm me. Thanks.
I have thought about posting on this topic, which is by far one of the most absurd of any nude bathing related topics, for more months than I care to remember. However, I have refrained, for a number of reasons, but mostly because I feel that those who are opposed to camera use at places were nude bathing is possible, be it a beach or a resort or another venue, will never be convinced to the benefits of opening all of the aforementioned places to camera use. The reason I chose to post now is a result of this article from CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/14/nudist.recruits.ap/index.html which if you haven't read and have any interest in clothing optional recreation should come as no surprise to you. I would further like any of you, whether you agree with me or not, to be sure to forward what I have to say to your respective organizations, because I feel that my opinion, though I am obviously biased, will at least open channels for discourse which can hopefully be a medium for change in those respective organizations, as they have been for mine.
Referencing the article, it has been a problem in America particularly, but with the nudist movement in general since its modern beginnings in the 1920s', with attracting young people to nude recreation. While there have been a number of causes, the last major modern cause which restricts most young Americans, speaking to you as a 21 year old male American from a Catholic standpoint, has been the reluctance of nearly all major nude recreation facilities in America to allow cameras on the premises, and in the event cameras are allowed to only have them used in combination with waiver forms. From the article you see many involved in this lifestyle unable to explain why they are unable to attract young people. While it is a combination of factors, the clear and salient hypocrisy of these nudist organizations with regard to camera use can be the lone major cause, with the other causes, as discussed in the article and including the demographics of nude recreation facilities and financial restrictions, play a subsidiary role. The reason is quite clear to the majority of young people I have spoken to. (A poll of 1,211 males and females of varying ethnicities, social class, religions, etc. with the median age being 19.) Nude recreation facilities and the nudist lifestyle advertise itself as "All the same activities of normal life, sans clothes". (AANR). For an organization to try and attract people of all ages, by lying to them directly turns off a large number of people initially. Nude recreation should not sell itself as recreation the same as any other. Nude recreation is more liberating, more empowering than regular recreation, and to sell itself as the same, with only one small change not only is an outright fallacy, it is an injustice to all of those who know the many indescribable feelings nude recreation brings to their lives. Secondly, the majority of young people who choose to pursue this issue further, and try to embrace nude recreation are turned off by the no camera policy, which in my poll is the largest factor(69%) that prevents first time nudists from trying. The reason for this is essentially tied into the hypocrisy in which the nudist lifestyle sells itself as a regular recreation without clothes, and also because of the associated financial costs incurred during nude recreation as a result of club fees and travel expenses. For a person to be told that nude recreation is the same, except without clothes and then asked to pay substantial fees to enjoy nude recreation is one barrier that is difficult to overcome, to tell them further that although we say these types of recreation are the same and you have to pay money and additionally are unable to record your memories to share with others, for fear that others may exploit you in photos o
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 Posted - 05/16/2007 : 6:42:00 PM
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You were right to apologize for the length of your post. Not for it's length or content but the ONE continuous paragraph. They are very difficult to read and you probably lost more readers because of that then you had take the time and energy to read that whole paragraph.
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Posted - 05/16/2007 : 7:05:10 PM
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I take my camera with me wherever I go, but I do take the most pictures when I'm on vacation and actually have the time to stop and smell (and see) the roses. The same is true whether it's a clothed or nude holiday. But I take most of my pictures in the early morning hours when no one else is around. Not only is the light better than at midday, but I don't want other people in my pictures any more than I want to be in theirs. I'm on MY vacation, not on someone else's and I strenuously object to being photographed by someone else without my permission, whether I'm clothed or not. I would never do it except in a crowd scene, and I expect (perhaps naively) that others would behave likewise. Banning cameras in unrealistic at best, and may give others a false sense of security. Whether it keeps younger people away or not is anyones guess - I'm not young enough to know how they think ...
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Posted - 05/25/2007 : 08:51:39 AM
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Agree with fireprof. What a pity you did not bother to make this more readable. From a quick scan, I get the impression that it makes good sense.
Naturism is for every body.
See you at River Island.
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