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NudeAl
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 Posted - 08/06/2008 : 12:05:28 AM
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Originally posted by NCLynn
I have only visited nudist resorts/camp grounds with a significant other, never alone. For me, visiting with a partner made it much easier to shed my clothes and enjoy the nudist experience. Body image is one of the reasons I have not ventured out alone. I keep thinking that I will visit a resort on my own after losing those pesky pounds. Why do we do that to ourselves and miss out on the fun?
Lynn
Women are not the only ones who feel this way. When I first wanted to go I felt I needed to lose a few pounds. I put myself on a exercise program and delayed my first experience. I should have just gone and not spent all that time worrying over it. No one really gives a hoot how you look.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. -- Robert Frost
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Dustin
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 05:18:35 AM
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As I have posted under "First experiences" my first visit to a nudist club, with my wife, could have been a disaster because she was the only woman there that day, with five other males and me. It was, of course, a small and quite primitive club.
My wife was hesitant to undress and I did not pressure her. Later in the day, she did undress and seemed comfortable enough. Of the five other males, three were adult "veteran" nudists and did nothing to make her feel uncomfortable. The other two were teen-age boys who were not able to completely hide their need to look at a nude woman, but ever their behavior was not offensive.
I was a bit confused by my own feelings. The fact that I was the only man there with female companionship seemed to give me a certain level of respect that I might not have enjoyed otherwise.
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jim19452
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 08:07:59 AM
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Dustin, It is much easier to 'hide' in a crowd. After the completion of a CO 5K Run or Walk Race about 60 or 80 people remained nude around the clubhouse/pool and there was a relaxed, comfortable atmosphere.
Best Wishes, Jim
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VLM34
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 08:50:06 AM
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In trying to uncover why that is, it seems women have legitimate concerns (not surprisingly, a certain percentage of men actually ARE pigs,
I have seen the opposite side of the coin. At Spanish resorts the families tend to go to the coast for the whole of the summer, with the husbands returning to the cities to work during the week. You also get groups of office workers (mostly female) arriving mid afternoon. So the ratio is often well over 2:1 female to male.
Yes, it's the same in Southern France.
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Given this ratio, the women then seem to gain confidence and feel dominant. Again it's only a few, but it's not just men who can act like pigs.
I've never seen anything remotely resembling that.
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VLM34
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 09:12:23 AM
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A lot of the above posts talk about the 'differences' between male and female attitudes with the implication that they're inherent - that is, genetic, natural, etc. I don't think so.
IMO, those very real differrences are 99% taught: by parents, relatives, preachers, media, culture, and society in general.
How else to explain the difference in women's attitudes in countries where the influences are different?
As an example, the French gene pool is little (if any) different from that in the USA, but women's attitudes differ markedly.
If we Americans could fix our national culture, the problems mentioned here would go away.
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inudist
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 9:41:43 PM
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I find it strange that on this thread there are so many more men posting on here than women. And yes, I'm now just as guilty.
The biggest theme I do hear from this thread from women posters and other writings by women is the issue of body image and body shame as the #1 obstacle for women trying nudism. Am I right or wrong on this?? And can any females give us any hints as to what us well meaning men posting here can do to help with this?
inudist
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Diger
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 9:57:37 PM
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inudist,
You are 100 percent right. My wife and I were talking to her sister about going to the nude beach and her reply was, "I don't want to see it so I know no one else does either".
That says it all.
Diger
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CathyK
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 11:23:17 AM
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Originally posted by inudist
I find it strange that on this thread there are so many more men posting on here than women. And yes, I'm now just as guilty.
The biggest theme I do hear from this thread from women posters and other writings by women is the issue of body image and body shame as the #1 obstacle for women trying nudism. Am I right or wrong on this?? And can any females give us any hints as to what us well meaning men posting here can do to help with this?
inudist
Body image, social acceptance, gender expectations, lots of things that separate men from women in western culture are responsible for more men than women being attracted to this. One perfect example...men can show their nipples in public while women cannot. Girls are typically taught to be prim and proper (at least I was) while boys are taught to be aggressive and competitive. I was taught to be modest from the day I was born. Boys don't know what modesty means.
Europeans have a very different culture and that's why their women have a very different and more open attitude when it comes to social nudity.
You may mean well, and are making a good attempt to attract more women to this board, but you can't change what is so ingrained in our culture so easily.
Cathy
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inudist
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 6:51:52 PM
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Originally posted by CathyK
Body image, social acceptance, gender expectations, lots of things that separate men from women in western culture are responsible for more men than women being attracted to this. One perfect example...men can show their nipples in public while women cannot. Girls are typically taught to be prim and proper (at least I was) while boys are taught to be aggressive and competitive.
I believe that you are absolutely right on this. Yes these differences are ingrained in our culture and expectations are very difficult to change.
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 09:35:38 AM
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My feeling is that women aren't less inclined to enjoy being nude than men ... at least women in my age group (I'm 43) ... but we are decidedly less inclined to do it publicly, for many of the reasons already mentioned. I have in the past enjoyed public nude beaches, but they make me nervous now largely because of the hidden camera factor. The thought of my picture appearing on some sleazy website is appalling to me. I have never been to a nude resort, so I can't really comment knowledgeably. Perhaps my fears would be groundless there.
But as a result of this factor, I now pretty much confine my nudity to my own home and yard, or to secluded beaches/hot springs.
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VLM34
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 12:33:57 PM
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... I have in the past enjoyed public nude beaches, but they make me nervous now largely because of the hidden camera factor. The thought of my picture appearing on some sleazy website is appalling to me.
Why? How would you be harmed?
(If you fear comments from friends, I would think you'd prefer the sleaziest of sleazy websites, because your friends would, of course, never go there. <G>)
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But as a result of this factor, I now pretty much confine my nudity to my own home and yard, or to secluded beaches/hot springs.
The odds _may_ be lower there, but they aren't zero anywhere. And don't forget Google Earth!
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Warmskin
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 4:36:58 PM
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I am going to risk showing my ignorance as I have done with all my posts, but do any resorts have a women-only day, so that women can try nudism for a day without men being around? That would seem helpful in getting them interested in away-from-home nudism.
That government governs best, which governs least - Thomas Jefferson
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Diger
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 6:46:33 PM
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Yes they do Warmskin, I have read one resort I believe it may be white tail park that has a womens lunch. They close the clubhouse just for the ladies, they have lunch, social time and hot tub just for the ladies, while the rest of the park is still open.
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HannahB
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 10:48:11 AM
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VLM, my God! It's an issue of control of your own body! So maybe honeysuckles frineds would not see it on some sleazy web site - but eeeeewwwwww! What about all the weirdo's that do??
I have yet to go to a nude beach, but when I do, i don't mind the idea of people seeing my body, or even being attracted to my body. But I WOULD like to control who sees it!
To your point honeysuckle about men and women being equally inlcined to goo nude,in my experience, more women would like to do it then men. We feel so constricted by society (we can't be topless, we have to reserved about sexuality), that taking your clothes off is the ultimate way of fighting back and taking control!
Anyway, I love this board, and everyone please feel free to e-mail me with your thoughts on these topics, hannahbarber80@yahoo.com
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VLM34
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 12:44:02 PM
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VLM, my God! It's an issue of control of your own body! So maybe honeysuckles frineds would not see it on some sleazy web site - but eeeeewwwwww! What about all the weirdo's that do??
I have yet to go to a nude beach, but when I do, i don't mind the idea of people seeing my body, or even being attracted to my body. But I WOULD like to control who sees it!
You can't, except perhaps within your own well fortified home.
When clothed among others, I doubt you're concerned about who sees you, who is or isn't attracted to you, who is or isn't a weirdo, or what someone may or may not be thinking. You react only to what others say or do.
When nude among others, why should any of that change?
As nudists, we believe that there are no special body parts, that a breast or a butt is no different from a nose or a knee, that none of them must be concealed from view.
Don't we?
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