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 Posted - 03/21/2002 : 6:14:20 PM
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A lot of people when they think of nudity, think of something naughty or suggestive. They don't realize nudists come in many shapes and sizes, and several different lifestyles. Whereas a novice person when trying nudity for the first time might make crude or suggestive statements, they soon learn that nudity is entirely different from sex. In time, one gains a profound sense of relaxation and camaradarie that just isn't present in the textile (clothed) world. Lewdness or crudeness is not the focus of the nudist's mind, and is only present in the eye of the non-nudist, or perhaps someone new to the experience.
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Edward
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Posted - 08/22/2002 : 7:39:08 PM
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Nudity exposes all the flws in the body and does not draw attention to any one area. Clothing may infact be designed to do the opposite by drawing attention tp particular areas of the body or by suggesting a particular theme.
When one goes nude with other nudes the body is just a body. With clothes the eye can be drawn into creating an image into the mind that Naturist are trying to ignore.
Simply being nude is not rude because it is just the body and no more. Cothing on the other hand can cause different effects on different people depending upon what is being worn and under what circumstances.
I wish the textile world would get a better grasp of that concept.
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Beach
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Posted - 08/22/2002 : 9:06:41 PM
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Welcome to the forum Edward, and very well put. I get the impression your a naturist? How do you feel about body jewelry? Some feel that this also is to draw attention to areas of the body and are against it. Some feel this is just for augmenting an area or for fun....
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Edward
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Posted - 08/23/2002 : 11:25:31 AM
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Yes I am a Naturist as well is my wife. I myself have certain feelings about what we do to our bodies. I disagree with piercing and tatooing because it no longer leaves a natural skin flow or that it is poked through the skin. Both practices do draw attention to themselves and I would think for that reason. If you tatoo words on you body you should not expect people not to want to read what it says. Putting rings and such through your body can be attractive but will draw attention to whatever area is being accentuated. BUT, That is what is right for ME. What you do to your body is up to you. I think that the eye will see what ever a person has done to themselves and is some cases may draw undue attention to that area. We may no longer see a whole person, but be focused in on the area that was enhanced. This might be bad for the group and what was intended by the wearer. Jewelry for the most part is for you, how it makes you feel about your appearance and how you want to appear to others.
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usvera
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Posted - 10/01/2002 : 3:42:46 PM
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If body piercing or tattos are "unacceptable" at some nudist clubs... then so should any other form of body decoration... such as ear rings or lipstick.
It bothers me when a nudist club tells me about the wonderful "freedom" of social nudism at their club and then they have the audacity to start explaining their very own set of rules. It is interesting that these same clubs always seem to be the ones that are crying for new younger members... yet their rules seem discriminate against exactly this group. The younger people today enjoy tattoos and piercing and are not afraid to be nude and show them off... so why in the world would you want to exclude them... they are more comfortable with their bodies than we ever where..?
Fortunately it is not just the young who enjoy tattoos and piercing... I would like to have my belly button pierced... I think it is cute and I would love to wear a nice piece of jewelry there. Can you imagine "Cher"... of Sonny and Cher... going down to Palm Springs and visiting a nudist resort and being told she had to leave because of her body decorations... I don't think so..!
These clubs are right... they need some young blood... to change there old fashioned and ridiculous rules..!
Bare Hugz... Vera, the Sun Devil
The Diablo Sun Devils... a nudist club primarily for the benefit of women everywhere..!
http://www.DiabloSunDevils.com
Devils@DiabloSunDevils.com
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Edward
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Posted - 10/02/2002 : 12:36:12 AM
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That you for responding to me. I am actually one of your e-mail subscribers. As I tried to say in my previuos posting. What I do with my body or what my preferences are is not intended to be a rule for everyone to live by. It is my opinion. I have been to places like Lupin where a man wore a ring thast encircled his penis and scrotum. Your eye was drawn the the shiny glitter that came from it. Where you might not normally look at his pubic area, because of the jewlery, you looked. It was a novelty. I have seen him there several times now and it is just part of him. No longer a novelty. Still it is not something I would choose to do. I in no way believe that he should not be allowed to be there, but I also believe that he should not be upset if he sees someone looking at that area specifically.
Another example of what I trying to get at is when my wife and I are out, clothed or unclothed, and we see someone with a tatoo. we ask each other if we can tell what it was, a flower, a bug, a dragon, a design with a meaning, or whatever. Inotherwords we are no longer looking at the person but have focused on the image. That may be what they want. It is not waht I was hoping I would do but I fall into that trap almost every time. Maybe I need counciling.
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usvera
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Posted - 10/02/2002 : 02:53:01 AM
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You don't need any counseling... you are as normal as all of us because we all attracted to something that is different whether it be good or bad. Many tattoos are very bad in my opinion. They might even look great at first... but over time they seem to become horrible looking and I would never want one. I love wearing a tattoo once in awhile... but they always wash off in a couple of days and that is fine with me. I love earrings and I wear them nearly all the time. I am always attracted to a woman wearing a nice pair of them but... even though I might look very hard at the earrings... seldom do I pay any attention to the ladies ears at all..!
I think I know exactly the person you are talking about who always wears the ring around his genitals at Lupin. It is called a "cock ring"... and personally I don't like it at all. And you are quite right... it is pretty hard not to see all that is in front of that ring huh..?
I like body painting sometimes... it is fun being painted and it seems to be a pretty popular pastime with many nudist groups. I also love a nice nude massage from time to time... and when we had a massage exchange at the Sequoians one time it was wonderful. But then there are many people who do not like this at all... just as some do not like the idea of nude dancing... which I also love to do..! I suppose it depends on just how comfortable a person is with their sexuality Edward. I am very comfortable with mine and I have never had anyone abuse or try to take advantage of my openness..! When I am nude I act exactly as I do when I am clothed... except that I might be a bit more friendly because I feel much more relaxed when I am nude.
I believe that if body piercing or a tattoo are "unacceptable" at a nudist club... no matter where they are... then any other form of body decoration should be "unacceptable" as well. But... there will always be people who don't agree and many clubs seem to want to cut off their nose despite their face and stick with there time honored traditions no matter what..!
Bare Hugz... Vera, the Sun Devil
The Diablo Sun Devils... a nudist club primarily for the benefit of women everywhere..!
http://www.DiabloSunDevils.com
Devils@DiabloSunDevils.com
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Edward
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Posted - 10/02/2002 : 11:01:52 AM
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I value your input, so thanks.
I am starting a group of Naturist in Sonoma County, CA. It will be supported thru the Naturist Society. This is a topic that will help me to be open to all people who are interested in participating. We sometimes unknowingly project our own opinions into a group program that is for the masses. I do not want of bunch of ME running around an event. I want the diverity of the population because that adds interest and life to a new organization.
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Susan
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Posted - 10/07/2002 : 5:33:13 PM
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Good subject!! I'd like a few opinions on this. A few weekends ago my boyfriend and I were at - - in Lutz, Florida. Now I personally have nothing wrong with pieracings, I am young, have a couple of pieracings, but.........
I saw two young ladies there in the hot-tubs one evening. They had Gold nipple rings that were connected to each other with little gold chains and another piercing on their labia (I didnt get a real sharp look at that) however the nipple piercings were also connected with a chain to their labia. Is this in good taste. They put on quite the show for every one. It made me kind of un-comfortable to be there, however they sure got the attention.
What degree of piercing is considered ok? I took some pics, I'll try to post em....
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Edward
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Posted - 10/09/2002 : 1:50:11 PM
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Thanks for posting. My wife and I discussed this topic at length last night. We agreed that opur personal likes and disliokes are not the most important factor when it comes to what should or should not be allowed within our new forming group or any other naturist place.
We did, however, pick up from you how it made you feel. This could adversely affect how many people may choose to participate. Personal freedom is to be protected, which means anyone has the right to decorate their body as they choose. On a public beach somewhere this might be as important as at a for profit business. If alowwing 1 person to come in causes 5 to leave, then profit must dictate the business descision to restrict admittance to some by establishing certain guidlines.
This is not ideal but it is reality.
My wife and I agree that it is more important to try to understand the motivation behind the body decoration that it is to approve or disapprove what it is. Inotherwords, it is not important whether or not we like it or would wear it, but whether or not the person who is wearing it is doing to please themselves or to excite others.
We believe in a family atmosphere. Nothing should go on at any Naturist event that could not be viewed by or participated in by any 5 year old for example.
Thanks
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usvera
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Posted - 10/17/2002 : 01:54:45 AM
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Good subject!! I'd like a few opinions on this. A few weekends ago my boyfriend and I were at - - in Lutz, Florida. Now I personally have nothing wrong with pieracings, I am young, have a couple of pieracings, but.........
I saw two young ladies there in the hot-tubs one evening. They had Gold nipple rings that were connected to each other with little gold chains and another piercing on their labia (I didnt get a real sharp look at that) however the nipple piercings were also connected with a chain to their labia. Is this in good taste. They put on quite the show for every one. It made me kind of un-comfortable to be there, however they sure got the attention.
What degree of piercing is considered ok? I took some pics, I'll try to post em....
Susan... I am not sure about - - in Florida. We have had several members visit there during the past year and nearly all of them say they would never return. Some of them feel very strongly that the AANR should not be associated with - - because it has become a swingers resort and is not by any means a family oriented nudist resort any longer.
I really cannot say because I have never been to - - before... but I personally think the behavior you described is in very poor taste if this is really a naturist resort... don't you..? I must tell you I have heard many stories like this and some much worse. I have no desire to visit this place... and I think the AANR should pay very close attention to what is being said about it. I would really like to hear what others who have been there have to say about - -..!
Bare Hugz... Vera, the Sun Devil
The Diablo Sun Devils... a nudist club primarily for the benefit of women everywhere..!
http://www.DiabloSunDevils.com
Devils@DiabloSunDevils.com
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Posted - 10/20/2002 : 2:40:11 PM
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Good subject!! I'd like a few opinions on this. A few weekends ago my boyfriend and I were at - - in Lutz, Florida. Now I personally have nothing wrong with pieracings, I am young, have a couple of pieracings, but.........
I saw two young ladies there in the hot-tubs one evening. They had Gold nipple rings that were connected to each other with little gold chains and another piercing on their labia (I didnt get a real sharp look at that) however the nipple piercings were also connected with a chain to their labia. Is this in good taste. They put on quite the show for every one. It made me kind of un-comfortable to be there, however they sure got the attention.
What degree of piercing is considered ok? I took some pics, I'll try to post em....
wow, I would feel a bit uncomfortable. I have no problems with tatoo's and piercings on others, but they are just not for me. I did have a pierced ear once but was forced to remove it for my job, which in itself isn't right, but I did it because I love doing my job. :) I dont mind a b-button piercing on others or ear piercings, I think it is cute looking but all the others I don't care for at all. I am a nudist because I feel comfortable about me. I feel I don't need to wear pierced jewelry to enhance the way I look. I look just fine as my bare self. :) It's great to see other young naturists on the board besides myself.
- Ray
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Lofty
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Posted - 11/02/2002 : 08:00:04 AM
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Hi... This is my very first post on this site, and I think it's an interesting topic. (For the record, I'm a 59 yr old father of two, and a granddad. My Wife & I have been naturists for 20 odd yrs)
I think the true concept of naturism is "total body acceptance." We may not like or agree with everything we see, but it is all part of the human body, how it looks, and being able to express one self.
Many natives from other lands, push bones through their noses! etc.
Whose to say what is right or normal!
My Wife had a small tattoo last year, on her hip. (A small Japaneze design) She said she has always wanted one, and finally had the guts to do it!
The Wife of some close friends of ours, (in their 40's) has a genital piercing. Not that it matters, but she is a Bank Manager!
It doesn't bother us at all to see genital piercings, but there are certainly extremes that do shock us, but that's us! As long as the individuals behave appropiately, then that is "their thing!"
We took our 5 yr old Grandson to a Naturist resort here in Ontario. Canada, where we live. He saw a lady, with a gold chain around her waist while at the swimming pool. He went up to her and said, "Did you know your necklace has slipped!" That was a classic!
Goodness knows what he would have said, if he had seen a genital piercing!
I have to admit that I have a penis piercing as well. It is "frenum" type piercing. (an easy one!) but I didn't have to get it done professionally as I had a natural small hole there already.
I did speak to my friends Wife who had a genital piercing on this.
She said it took her years before she had hers done. But it was something she had always wanted, and figured at 38 she was old enough to make her own descisions. Her Husband agreed.
I feel more "complete" when I am wearing it. Don't ask me why!?
But I haven't got the guts to wear it in public yet! Just my Wife, and a couple of her friends know about it.
So maybe next year, I'll surprise some of my friends on the beach..
we'll see! Lofty
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sacred
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Posted - 12/20/2002 : 01:52:34 AM
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well i would have to go with the piercing are ok no matter where they are. i think as nudists and naturists we try to be open minded. now i have seen multiple piercing at BDSM clubs (only place i've been so far that allows people to expose that kind of piercing) that would blow most folks minds away ... but as long as they were behaving in a g rated manner i think it is good to remain open minded. i do feel that chains between rings is excessive adornment for a nude environment but then what does that say about necklaces and waist chains and where do you draw the lines. as for my piercing ... if i took them out i wouldn't be able to get them back in without help ... so i would rather not take them out though many resorts would prefer i did. oh well ... what ever shall we do?
may all needs be well met
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USHans
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Posted - 01/03/2003 : 11:30:29 AM
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I see this thread is kind of old, but will add my .02 cents worth.
I personally think that clubs develop a personality as people do. What is acceptable at one will not be at another. If a person is visiting a resort for the first time they will get a feeling really quickly about what the personality of the club is.
Edward, since you are starting a new club you may have to impose some rules to begin with until your club develops it's own unique personality, then you probably won't need them anymore. Rules will take care of themselves.
If the person mention above with chains draped from nipple to genitals visits a club and they are the only one so adorned, they will naturally start to feel uncomfortable and not return. Just as people that are uncomfortable seeing them on others will not return somewhere that allows them.
I tend to like many of the piercings and tatoos on people when they are in moderation, but people that have obsesivly adorned their bodies I don't care for. I tend not to like men with ear rings, but I love them on women, nipple rings don't bother me on either gender, as with tatoos or most other piercings. In other words we all have our own taste and I tend to think people will gravitate towards resorts/clubs that share their interest.
Vera, I stumbled on the link of pictures and recognized you right off the bat, by your hate. I am also a SunDevil, but since I live in Michigan do not get involved with your club much, I wish it were closer.
Peace in Christ,
Hans
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naturalman54
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Posted - 04/03/2003 : 5:08:08 PM
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Another 2 cents worth:
""I do my thing and you do your thing, I am not in this world to live up to your expectations, and you are not in this world to live up to mine. You are you and I am I and if by chance we find each other, it's beautiful."" ___Frederick S. Percs
Here in the southeast there is a saying: 'no one ever loses a religious argument, they just start their own church.'
Some campgrounds and resorts deserve a standing ovation, while others deserve a 'walking' ovation.
Dare to be bare.
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