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swimminjim
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 Posted - 08/04/2006 : 3:31:28 PM
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Hi All, My name is Jim and I am really new to exploring and learning about nudism I have done a nude hike and other thatn that I have been practicing nudism mostly at home.I have a house that is in a very private area and that makes it easy for me. I am wondering what the ratio of women are to men in the real nudist community?
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Cheri
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Posted - 08/04/2006 : 4:41:20 PM
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It depends on where you're located, what day of the week you're attending which nudist venue. You'll also find many people who visit and enjoy nude beaches saying that they're not nudists.
I can very much recommend visiting Cherokee in Crossville, TN and/or Rock Haven in Murphreesboro,TN. Those are landed clubs. There are also a couple of nonlanded TN clubs that would probably like having another home at which to schedule an event.
I would say that probably it's a 3:1 ratio overall. However, each nudist venue can change with the day of the week, the location, and what others have going on in their lives.
Cheri
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swimminjim
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Posted - 08/04/2006 : 6:10:29 PM
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Thank You Cheri, Cherokee is about 4 hours from me and a reasonable distance to enjoy. Hope to try a visit there soon!
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balataf
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Posted - 08/06/2006 : 7:14:41 PM
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At the Phi Nu Swims I've seen, the ratio averaged about 22 men to 17 women and 3 children. At Phi Nu House Parties I have attended, it averages about six women for ten men and, usually one child.
I will mention the difficulty that applies in getting teenagers, of either sex, involved. My 14-YO son went to a Swim, but is the only teenager to attend any event I have been to. He does not feel that he can invite his male friends, and that difficulty increases greatly for the girls. Then again, it's worse for girls he doesn't know very well. So, he has not come back again.
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Reb
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 10:47:29 AM
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I too would estimate that the M/F ratio to be about 3/1. A lot depends on the local. Ironically, my experience is that in clubs that allow single men, eventually the ratio will tend to level out more, assuming the guests are properly screened. It will never be at a 1/1 ratio in the current American culture we have today. It is easier to just ban all single males and
be done with it. There will always be friends of the owners and the like that will be exempted.
What troubles me is that this question has been argued and debated since at least 1980 with no solution in sight. A much more pragmatic approach would not be to fix the blame but fix the problem. It is not that there are too many males, it is that there are too few females.
I was extremely disappointed to see that the AANR, formerly the ASA, was so disinterested in this matter. While it is true that they have no power to order any camp to not discriminate, they do have the power to approve or disapprove any camp. No camp, unless they are well located and well financed, will survive for long on a commercial basis without the approval of the AANR or the Naturist Society. By threatening to pull the membership of camps that discriminate against males,
(similiar to what they would do if the camps discriminated against ANY other group), the problem would solve itself. Heck, I am 58 years old. How could any female feel threated by my just being there? Actually, as silly as that thought is, it is also a little flattering!
Can anyone, anyone at all, give a single male one reason to join, (or support), the AANR?
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jim19452
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 2:24:09 PM
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I have done an adult head count several times. A few times there have been as many females as males but usually the ratio runs roughly 4:5 (f/m), at worst but rare, 4:6.
I have unsuccessfully tried to recruit females. Although some have been amused by my escapades that I write up in nude trip reports. I came close twice but when the females fully realized that I was married and only looking for a platonic relationship I got dropped like a rock.
Best Wishes, Jim
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meltonalicia
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 7:31:16 PM
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I am trying to understand this place but I can't. I post just such a question the day I joined and was told it was not allowed and it got deleted, now I find you talking about it openly? Why am I bad if I ask, but everyone else can talk about it?
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Admin
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Posted - 08/09/2006 : 8:46:25 PM
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Alicia, just check the posting rules linked on the front page. I've made the link easier to find.
Regarding the female to male ratio, I suspect the ladies don't show up until they are comfortable with the type of atmosphere that might develop. It's said the husbands drag their wives to the first visit, however the wife is the one that often drags him back for return visits.
I've held the opinion that men in their first few visits secretly hope for a more sexually charged atmosphere, but the women are the most comfortable once they find sexuality is NOT the focus at a standard nudist resort.
Of course, even just a few googley-eyed single guys sitting around the pool eyeing the new ladies can spoil that comfort zone. I suspect that voyeurism in some locations could have a direct effect on that female to male ratio, since return visits are essential to build the female demographic.
So the question really is, how do you make the ladies more comfortable, so that the resorts see no need to reduce the male participation?
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scap
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Posted - 08/10/2006 : 2:52:33 PM
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great post and i agree. I think some men at first go to 'look' at naked woman. However, the woman who first go, do NOT want men looking at them that way.
It's a catch 22.
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jim19452
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Posted - 08/26/2006 : 09:52:19 AM
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I did another sex (gender is a grammatical case) head count in the clubhouse area last Saturday just before I left the resort, 15/16, f/m.
Last month for the CO 5K Run or Walk race the sex head count was 38/122, f/m. All but 5 or 6 choose nudity except of course for footware and some headware. I finished next to last, but I made it. Not bad for having my car run over my leg twice on July 4th, otherwise, I think I would have finished in the top 159!
Best Wishes, Jim
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spadoc
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Posted - 08/27/2006 : 12:54:56 AM
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Originally posted by Reb
What troubles me is that this question has been argued and debated since at least 1980 with no solution in sight. A much more pragmatic approach would not be to fix the blame but fix the problem. It is not that there are too many males, it is that there are too few females.
I was extremely disappointed to see that the AANR, formerly the ASA, was so disinterested in this matter. While it is true that they have no power to order any camp to not discriminate, they do have the power to approve or disapprove any camp. No camp, unless they are well located and well financed, will survive for long on a commercial basis without the approval of the AANR or the Naturist Society. By threatening to pull the membership of camps that discriminate against males,
(similiar to what they would do if the camps discriminated against ANY other group), the problem would solve itself. Heck, I am 58 years old. How could any female feel threated by my just being there? Actually, as silly as that thought is, it is also a little flattering!
Can anyone, anyone at all, give a single male one reason to join, (or support), the AANR?
Hi Folks,
This is another topic that will never die. If people would only listen to voices of reason, there would be no need to beat this poor horse into bloody ribbons. Yes, there are a tiny handful of clubs in the US (mostly member owned co op clubs) which have a restrictive gate policy toward single men, but the vast vast majority of landed clubs welcome single males (and their money). As I have outlined many many many many many times previously, to insure your acceptance, follow these "rules":
1. Be a member of TNS or AANR. You can join directly or through a club (like Cheri Alexander's Travelites)
2. Go to the website of the club you'd like to visit. Learn something about the club. READ THE RULES so you'll know what to expect.
3. Call ahead, introduce yourself. Tell them you are an AANR (or TNS) member and you'd like to visit their facility.
4. On your first visit, be cool. Check the club out. If possible, join in a volleyball (water or sand) game. Get to know people through shared activities. Strike up conversations with other single men. Chances are they may be a member and can introduce you to others.
5. Do not approach or interact with children. You will certainly draw a lot of negative attention from other adults.
6. And most importantly, be polite. Have fun.
See you at White Tail Resort.
Walt Iliff
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jim19452
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Posted - 08/27/2006 : 3:11:24 PM
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5. Do not approach or interact with children. You will certainly draw a lot of negative attention from other adults.
I will interact with children and I will do so in a proper manner in or outside of a nudist resort. If the children's parent/guardians have a problem with me they have but to call me aside and discuss the situation.
Best Wishes, Jim
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Grunt
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Posted - 08/29/2006 : 6:11:54 PM
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When my wife and I go to naturist spas we prefer to go on couples nights.
We went to an open naturist swim last year where there were about 20 guys and 3 ladies. We found that if we went into the sauna then 10 guys suddenly decided it would be a good idea to have a sauna. If we went into the steam room the same thing happened.
I don't mind guys following us around if they are going to bring their wives with them, but this was just nasty, they meant no harm, they just wanted to see a naked woman, and probably enjoyed themselves in bed on their own when they got home, but we never went there again, we'll stick to couples evenings.
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jim19452
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Posted - 08/30/2006 : 5:48:06 PM
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Grunt,
I am sadden reading about your wife's experience. Those men were classless jerks.
I understand why resorts strive for families, couples and balance in the sexes. I agree with that goal even though I go as a lone male.
I don't know anything about the nudist spot you were at, but, I am virtually certain that where I go, had someone complained to staff action would have been taken.
Best Wishes,
Jim
Best Wishes, Jim
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Limer
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 9:50:43 PM
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Male discrimination is THE style. If a male is single he only needs to rent a female for the day and he'll be welcome at a N. resort. If he is decent and alone he'll be punished for his honesty.
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Cheri
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Posted - 05/02/2007 : 7:52:03 PM
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Originally posted by Limer
Male discrimination is THE style. If a male is single he only needs to rent a female for the day and he'll be welcome at a N. resort. If he is decent and alone he'll be punished for his honesty.
As far as I'm aware, the Toronto nudist clubs are single-friendly especially if you present yourself in a polite manner, possibly call ahead and ask what their visiting policy is.
Cheri
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