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Cheri
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 Posted - 05/02/2007 : 7:53:16 PM
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Male discrimination is THE style. If a male is single he only needs to rent a female for the day and he'll be welcome at a N. resort. If he is decent and alone he'll be punished for his honesty.
As far as I'm aware, the Toronto nudist clubs are single-friendly especially if you present yourself in a polite manner, possibly call ahead and ask what their visiting policy is. Getting back on topic, there appears to be more women visiting and belonging to nudist venues to which I visit.
Cheri
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DKS
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 03:26:52 AM
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What's worse? Single guys looking at you sexually or females looking at you critically? Either way, we must seek to be personally satisfied with ourselves before the thought of trying to figure out someone's motive behind watching us ceases. In my experiences, six women and one man in a hot tub would be considered a great outing. However, six men and one women, there has to be something sexual related with this we think.
Really think about it just from reading the post on this site. Everything evolves around the genitals (i.e. shaved, pierced, erect, open legs, pictures and it keeps going on and on ...) of individuals. Or for a lack there of...... everything evolves around ones view of your desire to bring attention to the genitals in a non sexual environment. The penis is many things, it's not always a loaded gun. Look at some of the pics people place into circulation ( male w/ half erect frontal view either sitting w/ legs spread and or squatting with the tools swinging towards the ground). He is shaved and always talking to females. And he is probably alone. And we wonder why singles are discriminated against (not that it is right) and not wanted around. Let's not forget that anyone who has been involved in nudist circles for any length of time has heard a story or two ( true or false) about some lone male stealing someone's woman.
If possible, bring a gal...... don't seek out women and really pay attention to your interaction with children. In the back of my head (having four children) with all the concerns of screening and the motivation of people out there, you really don't know and everyone without a wife or lady is suspect. Sad reality.... the best advice is if you are new, join in on the activities around you and wait for the world around you to open up.
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anc35228
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 8:40:25 PM
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Cheri.. you mentioned up above "landed" clubs. Can you please tell me the difference between "landed" and "non-landed" clubs? Better yet, what are they?
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NudeAl
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 9:27:17 PM
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I know you addressed this to Cheri but if I may answer that question. A landed club means that the club itself has and maintains grounds in other words land. A non-landed club is sometimes refered to as a travel club they often have meetings at members homes or at a near by landed club.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. -- Robert Frost
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Cheri
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 12:04:39 PM
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Originally posted by anc35228
Cheri.. you mentioned up above "landed" clubs. Can you please tell me the difference between "landed" and "non-landed" clubs? Better yet, what are they?
A nonlanded club is one that does not have permanent facilities and meets at members' homes with facilities, ie. pool, hot tub, trails, volleyball, pingping, horseshoes. Some times visitis landed clubs, those with permanent facilities, possibly has clothed events, partipate in community activities, etc.
The nomenclature of travel club is outdated as is nudist colony.
Getting back on topic, many nonlanded clubs do have a quota system in place, Travelites has one at which there will rarely if ever be more than 3 to 1 men:women as you're in a smaller place than at a landed club. At times, there are more women than men. At this past weekend's event, it was 50:50.
Best regards, Cheri
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Levin
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Posted - 05/22/2007 : 07:01:25 AM
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Rarely I visited place with more females than males. The best ratio is where families gether otherwise it will always be more males. I think it is always so because simply women don't go outside more than man in any case. Nowdyas I find a lot of group girls going, probably women needs more protection.
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newlynude
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Posted - 05/22/2007 : 10:06:48 AM
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I was on Haulover Beach last Sunday and Monday. The male to female ratio was probably about 8 to 1. There were quite a few single men. Most were nude though and just taking in the sun, not leering, so it was not uncomfortable. There were enough nude women that my girlfriend and I did not feel strange about it at all. We only saw two kids on Sunday and one kid on Monday and they were with their families so it was very cool. I never felt that being nude there was an exhibition-like experience. It was the most free feeling thing I have ever done. There were a couple of men we saw with erections but they were not touching themselves. I would go back (and will) the first chance I get. I think the best nude experience is if a man accompanies a woman and can share the feelings of being nude together and enjoy it...not just to be checking everybody out...although that is definitely part of it, and is quite enjoyable too.
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Anniebare
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Posted - 05/22/2007 : 1:36:53 PM
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Based on my own experiences, I would guess that there are many women who don't go to public venues like resorts and such, but are still active nudists in their own right. I am always nude at home, and have been for all of my adult life. I will often hike or camp nude in "safe" mostly secluded areas. In the summer I prefer to go to a local clothing-optional beach (I dislike wearing a swimsuit) but try to avoid sitting alone. It's not that I'm shy--I was a nude art model for several years--it's just that I'm careful. I suppose my nudism evolved as more of a private thing anyway, since for many years I was the only nudist I knew.
Many people, when they get into something new, try to join clubs or surround themselves with as many like-minded people as possible. There's nothing wrong with that, but some of us are perhaps a little less socially-oriented. I don't think that makes me less of a nudist, but it doesn't help resolve the male/female imbalance.
I have often thought of visiting Glen Eden just to see what it's all about. Maybe I will.
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go n nude
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 10:51:43 AM
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Originally posted by Limer
Male discrimination is THE style. If a male is single he only needs to rent a female for the day and he'll be welcome at a N. resort. If he is decent and alone he'll be punished for his honesty.
Yes discrimination (single male) is not pleasant and prejudment,because others have spoiled the welcome mat isn't funny. They've had problems with a "few undesireables" and unfortunately the majority suffers. As cheri says knowing ahead of time will avoid disappointment.Some clubs welcome singles(male) and others won't.The some that do are expecting decent,honest nudists.
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go n nude
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Posted - 04/28/2008 : 04:12:22 AM
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The real nudist community including this Forum and several others,the ratio of males>females is dominated by males,we take to this lifestyle like ducks to water. Females being out numbered for several reasons, some we,ve heard about here and many we can only guess. The difference or imbalance is real, we'll have to live with it. Their are ways we can help change this it starts with us,and the way we treat them.
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crenshawjm
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Posted - 04/28/2008 : 10:06:04 AM
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in 1998 when i first joined Rock Haven, my first wife would not go, and got mad if i mentioned us going. later we got aa divorce. my second wife at first didn't want to go, because she didn't feel comfortable with her body. after surgery she feels better about how she looks. there have not been any dicussed fear from her as to how many guys to women go. Friday she and i went to Rock Haven Lodge, and after she saw the grounds, experienced being nude, naturally, she dropped her guard, enjoyed the experience, and later that day said we need to join, so we did, saturday she said lets go to the Rock, so we did, yesterday we went again, and even talked about buying a place out there to stay. talked to the office and found out there are 6 places for sale, so we will probably look in that more. even thought we had talked about moving to flordia after i retire. we might stay here, who knows.
to all this is the point of there might be a 3:1 ration here. but as long as the people are cool, and don't impose, there is not normally a problem. if there becomes a problem with advances to my wife i guess i will get in trouble when i do the normal male defending his wife thing.
Karen didn't push me to join, i did the pushing, and love being nude. the boys well that is different, but we are working on it. my son is 19 and he said last night he would try it, Karens son says no, not with us, but would as long as we weren't there. so he has some growing up to do. but he is only 16.
we will in time get the whole family going. i feel sure of that. but it will be there choice, i am not pushing them.
yes that will add to the ratio but that is life.
i don't go to check out the women, even thought i feel some women go to check out the guys, and that is normal too.
i go for myself, and my wife does the same. we love it, totally natural for us. and we enjoy all the activitied they have at Rock Haven, she loves the hot tub. course yestday it was a litte cool and trying to rain so i spent some time in the hot tub myself... even tough i wanted to work on my tan, it will happen as we get closer to summer.
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agde
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Posted - 04/29/2008 : 02:27:48 AM
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Originally posted by go n nude
The real nudist community including this Forum and several others,the ratio of males>females is dominated by males, we take to this lifestyle like ducks to water. Their are ways we can help change this it starts with us, and the way we treat them.
Over the years, we've probably all watched how the dynamic works. New naturists are naturally curious. Some stare a bit too much, and others are so concerned about not staring, they hardly look around. Transitioning from outside attitudes, designed around female clothing as an elaborate controlled seduction system, women tend to be initially hyper-sensitive to the wrong kind of attention and men to not reacting in the wrong way. So naturist attitudes and patterns need to be up-front and obvious.
That's why I agree that naturist men have a key role to play. As in the experience of Bill & Karen, women need to instantly sense that they are in a comfort zone. As go n nude suggests, new male members need obvious role models. Because of the outside environment, naturist men are ultimately the ones that signal and assure the transition to and maintenance of new attitudes and patterns of behavior.
But naturist women also have a key role to play. Because of the outside environment, men are in a weak position to promote and guarantee the initial leap of faith required of women. It is ultimately naturist women who are most effective in encouraging women and families to try naturism. Gender balance needs both.
While gender balance can help promote initial trial and smooth the transition, it oddly doesn't subsequently really matter that much since once peope-are-just-people, what counts is how interesting the people are. I think that is why naturist clubs that thrive focus so much energy, not only on systematic welcome orientation for new members, but also on really leveraging member talents for regular activities and events. Once a reputation and a network of people is established, gender balance happens, and people, including singles, of either gender can be welcomed and get through the transition more easily.
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Diger
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Posted - 04/29/2008 : 08:37:09 AM
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agde,
I agree the naturist experiences that are promoted by women are far better received. This is true even in the family unit, if the mother is comfortable and shares the lifestyle openly the children's response will be more positive. If we hope to improve the ratio we must promote and that starts at home.
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Posted - 04/29/2008 : 11:23:15 AM
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If you have read any of my other posts, you already know I'm fairly new to nudism around others. I'm just now establishing relationships with two nudist clubs - one landed, and one non-landed. (My point is coming) I have met with the non-landed President and companion. I've been communicating by email with the landed club President. I have mentioned the respective involvements to the men, and that is truly a plus. Because I have been reading posts on this forum, I knew it would be a slow process, BUT true friends are not made overnight.
So, although I know I'm judged "different" than a woman, I don't mind. I am looking forward to many new nudist friends in the end. Maybe I can be a "little" help in showing that "all" men are not looking for a sexual encounter in the nudist lifestyle. 3:1 ratio? More friends in the end. Okay by me. 
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Diger
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Posted - 04/29/2008 : 12:06:46 PM
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Northwest,
Sounds like you are on the right track, It's good you’re so understanding. We all have to remember those in charge are doing what is best for the group and the promotion of naturism.
Good Luck
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