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Diger
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 Posted - 10/26/2005 : 3:50:33 PM
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Women have by far more psychological issues to dig through before they can enjoy nudism - most never will.
I agree that women do have more issues than men, but I also believe that for the women that can overcome those issues, naturism can be very liberating. I have seen this in my wife…she is a BBW that has her share of weight issues.
When I finally got her to go to a nude beach, and once she got the nerve to take her suit off, She was hooked. The suit never went back on, and since then she is more self-conscious on a textile beach than a nude beach. If you read the boards you will here almost the same story over and over.
Don’t get me wrong I enjoy being nude at the beach, but I think with the liberation that the women that are there have found, they are the ones that enjoy it the most.
Our nude vacation is the first one my wife plans ever year.
Diger
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calmnude
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Posted - 10/27/2005 : 02:14:03 AM
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I agree with Veal and nurserobin who stated the ratios and the hangups that women have.
That said, I have seen more acceptnce of private nudity and home nudity among women in the last few years. Even, the reluctance of going to resorts and beaches is less.
However, i think it will be a long time before there is an equal interest in nudism/naturism, especially in the United States
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garhamf
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Posted - 10/28/2005 : 12:27:46 AM
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I am a new member to this site. I, like a previous contributor, wonder what issue or circumstance contributed to your question. However I concur with the majority of previous respondents that [a] it doesn't matter as it is a question of the pleasure and relaxation one achieves as a result of being nude and [ b] that most likely men initially at least are the more motivated to be nude on the basis of the pleasure they derive from seeing others, particularly women naked. If this is in fact the case [ and it is but a subjective assumption ]I believe that it is intuitively felt by women that men have this attraction to look at women rather than the converse. That in turn leads them to believe that they should be 'picture perfect' to merit that attention. To be honest, as a male, I find male leeching to be unacceotable and offensive. I adore the naked female form---of any shape, size or contour but I do not lear. But how does one tell women this??
From my research I believe that women are less likely to be attracted to a nude resort [ albiet that once confident no nakedness issues arise ]than men. What I think is of help is more information and images from people like Cheri whose web sites are mature, unsensationalised and picture her both naked and clothed. This dual imagery if you will helps create and sustain an image of "normalcy" and that it is ok for women to be nude. Her mixture of nude and clothed life portrays a vioew of everyday life that is other wise typical. The only difference is her desire to be naked on occasions.
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StuffedTiger
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Posted - 10/28/2005 : 12:54:45 AM
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... Would girls have more fun or would guys have more fun. ...
I think girls have more fun once they get into it because they are generally more social, but that there is more stress initially because in our culture it is often labeled as anti-social.
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old hippie
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Posted - 10/28/2005 : 08:21:20 AM
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this is a strange topic. But i was at a nude party saterday. And there were about 6 girls there and 5 guys there. We brought up a topic of who has the most fun being nude. Would girls have more fun or would guys have more fun. I told them about this sight and they asked me to put this topic on here.
So who do u think has more fun???
Lisa's question was not about who has more hang-up about beginning nude activity; she asked who has more fun being nude. So I think the discussion has to assume that we are talking about folks who are already involved in naturist activity at some level, and explore who derives more enjoyment from those activities.
There may be something to the observation that, while many women are more reluctant to get involved in naturism in the first place, once engaged they are more likely to be the social spark of the group.
... I would still contend that there is more variation from one individual to another than there is generally from all members of one gender to the other. There is no doubt (at least to me) that there are some generalized differences in behavior between men (as a group) and women (as a group). But I think that there can be more difference from one man or woman to the next than from "men" to "women".
.... Thus, "who has more fun being nude, you or me?" could just as well be asked. Do you enjoy the sun on your back or the water on your skin more than the person to your right? Maybe. It would make for interesting conversation around the hot tub....maybe that is why Lisa's friends posed the question in the first place.
hmmm...
Dum vivimus, vivamus!
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CathyK
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Posted - 10/30/2005 : 12:55:51 PM
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Originally posted by Diger
[quote]Originally posted by nurserobin
Women have by far more psychological issues to dig through before they can enjoy nudism - most never will.
I agree that women do have more issues than men, but I also believe that for the women that can overcome those issues, naturism can be very liberating. I have seen this in my wife…she is a BBW that has her share of weight issues.
When I finally got her to go to a nude beach, and once she got the nerve to take her suit off, She was hooked. The suit never went back on, and since then she is more self-conscious on a textile beach than a nude beach. If you read the boards you will here almost the same story over and over.
Don’t get me wrong I enjoy being nude at the beach, but I think with the liberation that the women that are there have found, they are the ones that enjoy it the most.
Our nude vacation is the first one my wife plans ever year.
Diger
That is exactly my siuation. Just another one of those women who had all kinds of body issues throughout my life. I always seemed to feel comfortable being nude in the privacy of my home. In fact, I preferred to be nude at home. But the idea of being nude in a social setting was impossible to imagine. However, once I took that first difficult step I realized how much more comfortable I was around other people in a nude environment. Now I am much more comfortable in a social nude environment than a social clothed environment. And since I am the person in my marriage that is in charge of the social agenda, our social agenda is much more with our nudist friends than our textile friends. In fact, I am trying to convert many of my textile friends to this lifestyle. I see in them what I was in my prior life, and that helps me try to turn them in this direction.
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nurserobin
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Posted - 10/30/2005 : 9:03:31 PM
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[In fact, I am trying to convert many of my textile friends to this lifestyle. I see in them what I was in my prior life, and that helps me try to turn them in this direction.
Cathy
Have you had any success converting any of your textile friends?
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Mic
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Posted - 10/30/2005 : 11:15:55 PM
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Regarding the question, I can think of any difference while participating. I agree that men more than likely would anticipate being naked with a new female than the women.
My question is: What is a naked party? Who attends? What is the motivation of the attendees (no sand and sun)?
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Cheri
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 08:45:32 AM
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My question is: What is a naked party? Who attends? What is the motivation of the attendees (no sand and sun)?
Mic
Mic, Nudism is not just something some of us do in warm weather around a pool, beach, outdoors. It's my lifestyle; nude when possible, clothed when practical. Who attends? men, women, moms, dads, children, teens, any one who enjoys the relaxation from social nudism. BTW, after a large meal, nudists have no belt to losen and don't have to worry about soiling their clothes. :)
Nonlanded clubs generally have social gatherings at members' homes, some have hot tubs among other ammenties. These are used all year long. Why wait till summer to be a nudist when you can enjoy this lifestyle in any environment.
Cheri
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GeeWilly
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 11:50:37 AM
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Whether choosing a lifestyle or just structuring a few hours of one's day, does a male or a female enjoy naturism more?
Does it depend upon an adventurist spirit? Or a willingness to step outside the box of "normal" behavior. ("Normal" here defined as what most folks do.) So wouldn't it turn on who is more able to move away from the security of the norm?
It has to be a quantity answer (as there really is no way to determine the relative degree of any one person's enjoyment is there?) i.e., more women seek security so fewer of them will enjoy naturism? Is that why men outnumber women in these areas?
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Diger
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 12:39:03 PM
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GeeWilly,
Quantity doesn't have to be an indication of quality, but I do agree that fewer women will ever enjoy naturism than men.
One thing I am sure of is, the personal victories in my life that I have had to work the most to achieve, are the ones I cherish the most.
It is great to see this much female input on this subject, that shows it’s hitting home for at least some.
Diger
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CathyK
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 8:14:40 PM
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Originally posted by CathyK
[In fact, I am trying to convert many of my textile friends to this lifestyle. I see in them what I was in my prior life, and that helps me try to turn them in this direction.
Cathy
Have you had any success converting any of your textile friends?
Not yet, but I know it's a process that might take some time. I'll keep trying though.
Cathy
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NudeAl
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 9:35:43 PM
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Keep trying Cathy. I have had no luck so far with my friends, well that's not quite true one of my friends tried it an liked it. However, I don't let everyone of them know about my interest in nude recreation.
I suggest looking into a non-landed club in your area for nude recreation in the off season so to speak. In fact this is the time of year that I go to my non-landed club meeting much more than in the summer when I tend to go to the beach much more often. Anyhow congrats on finding nude recreation so enjoyable. I wish you and your spouse many happy years of it.
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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GeeWilly
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 1:36:29 PM
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Diger, the quandry is how to measure "quality". It's too subjective isn't it?
Speaking of quantity . . . NudeAl, you seemed to imply that your spouse was not fully favorable to your desires for nude ventures. Quantity or quality?
The commitment of one's spouse to naturism could be a forum topic of its own. And how to either deal with such or remedy it as the case may be.
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NudeAl
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 12:07:18 AM
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I don't know if I want to open that can o' worms. My wife can take it or leave it. Which is a step forward and about as far as she is ever likely to go. I guess she likes going to the resorts best since she is no longer able to make the walk down to the nearby nude beach. So for me it about quantity and for her quality.
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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