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rogandjean
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Posted - 10/20/2009 : 10:34:25 PM
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Too many guys for a hetero males liking? Really?
At the risk of stating the obvious, and as someone who always goes to Gunnison WITH a woman, did it ever occur to you that you are part of the problem and not part of the solution?
We've spoken to many, many couples at Gunnison that wish there was a couples only section - in the past 10 years we've been going to Gunnison, we've never, ever had any problems with other couples or single females - it's always the roving trolls, or fully clothed idiots with their cell phone cameras who create trouble and drive the women and couples away. Have any of the posts complaining about inappropriate behavior here ever involved anyone besides single males?
And before all you single guys start whining and flaming away (yes, I know it's not you, it's the other guys), if you're only there to enjoy the beach and not to gawk, then it shouldn't matter that the couples would be off by themselves without you - you're just there to enjoy the sand and sun, correct?
And of course for those couples who want all the attention the trolls badly want to give you, you'd certainly be free to place your towel on the sand outside of the couples area - even better, since it would then be obvious who wants all that attention and who doesn't.
My $0.02......
Thanks for your comments. I have thought a lot about this and I simply cannot find anything wrong with what you have said. Like you, I have never been to Gunnison (or any other CO beach) without my wife. And it is always the guys, usually the single guys, that make things uncomfortable for women. Now I understand that many guys for whatever reason cannot always bring their wife/girlfriend/whatever, but the ratio of men to women is so off kilter that something is clearly wrong there. Lovesthesun is right - you guys need to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.
Having a couples only would be a big step in the right direction, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Wonder if there is a way we can make that happen - at least on a de-facto basis.
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Fishman81
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 Posted - 10/21/2009 : 01:49:48 AM
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There will never be a solution.That is my carefully-considered opinion,after having been to several nude beaches...People are the same everywhere,especially men.
I met a Russian woman at Gunnison who told me the same thing about nude beaches in the supposedly nudity-liberal Ukraine.She said that nudity was allowed on any beach,but that there were always some who objected to it(usually babushka-types),and that there were always a few middle-aged male dopes who foisted themselves on young women in order to "socialize".
I occasionally go to Gunnison alone,so I know how it feels to be a suspect before the fact.But,it's better than staying home on a sunny day,so I head on down anyway,then behave as if I'm at a Sunday School picnic.It's not all that easy to show up there unaccompanied, but oddly,that's when I've met the most people.Go figger.
And let's be honest here...We all enjoy people-watching,whether it be at the local supermarket or at the CO beach.Even the purest of nudists enjoy that,even if they state otherwise.Why else would they be going to a public beach,FCS?
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njyankee60
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 5:09:03 PM
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Missed opportunity..beautiful day today. Unfortunately, had too much to get done in the am. The wife and I did drive down to Sandy Hook and walked the paths. We did scope out gunnison from the north beach look out and noticed it was pretty full(for a weekday in Oct). When we drove by the parking lot,I would estimate about 50 -60 cars if not more.
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NewNudist09
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Posted - 10/22/2009 : 2:29:22 PM
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I'm a 30-something male. I went to Gunnison solo today for the first time, which was also my first ever experience with public nudity.
It was no big deal really, once I dropped the drawers and took a stroll around, I guess I was no longer a nude beach virgin. At that point my main concern was making sure I sprayed on the SPF 50 regularly.
There were too many guys (3:1 ratio or maybe even 4:1) for this hetero male's liking, but it's not like I didn't expect that. I didn't go to Gunnison to leer or try to pick anyone up, but of course nude bodies are part of the scenery at a nude beach so I was hoping for a little more fem scenery. There were a few hotties there, and I got a kick out of watching some of the guys *gawk* as they walked by and/or try to surreptitiously loiter near the hotties. Even as a first-time visitor, my etiquette was much better than some of those guys, who I think give a bad name to nude beaches.
I left around noon, no traffic at all getting out.
All-in-all I'd say Gunnison is a nice beach and I enjoyed a pleasant morning there. I wouldn;t make it my go-to beach, but I would go back.
Too many guys for a hetero males liking? Really?
At the risk of stating the obvious, and as someone who always goes to Gunnison WITH a woman, did it ever occur to you that you are part of the problem and not part of the solution?
We've spoken to many, many couples at Gunnison that wish there was a couples only section - in the past 10 years we've been going to Gunnison, we've never, ever had any problems with other couples or single females - it's always the roving trolls, or fully clothed idiots with their cell phone cameras who create trouble and drive the women and couples away. Have any of the posts complaining about inappropriate behavior here ever involved anyone besides single males?
And before all you single guys start whining and flaming away (yes, I know it's not you, it's the other guys), if you're only there to enjoy the beach and not to gawk, then it shouldn't matter that the couples would be off by themselves without you - you're just there to enjoy the sand and sun, correct?
And of course for those couples who want all the attention the trolls badly want to give you, you'd certainly be free to place your towel on the sand outside of the couples area - even better, since it would then be obvious who wants all that attention and who doesn't.
My $0.02......
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not part of the problem. When I went to Gunnison, I paid my $10 to park and took my litter with me. I kept to myself and did nothing whatsoever that anyone, male or female, would find the least bit objectionable.
Apparently you think nothing of generalizing and stereotyping, though. I presume you would prefer that African Americans stay off the streets at night because some of them commit crimes, and that people of Arab descent not fly because some of them are terrorists. Both are just logical extensions of your argument about single men at Gunnison.
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munz
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 12:30:31 PM
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Gunnisons Beach is part of the Sandy Hook Gateway National Seashore and is a long, wide, beautiful beach. During the summer months the beach averages 5000 nude/topless friendly people on weekdays and approx 8000 on weekends. We live 50 mins from the beach and therefore do not stay in hotels. However, there are several hotel/motels in the area. The Fairbanks Motel in Sea Bright NJ is the closest (5 mins). It is an older establishment with clean rooms and an excellent Portugese restaurant (Marisol) next door. The other hotels are a 15 min away. The Macintosh is in West Long Branch NJ, The Red Roof Inn and Holiday Inn are in Tinton Falls NJ. The restaurants in the immediate area of the beach are too plentiful to list. In Sandy Hook you have The Seagulls Nest. It is situated on the peninsular with spectacular views and sunsets of the ocean and bay. The food is good but the menu features only beer,well drinks, burgers and sandwiches
Just outside the park along both the ocean and bay there are dozens of fine seafood restaurants that will not disappoint you. All of these places have entertainment daily in the summer and weekends in the fall.
I've looked for Gunnison?s Beach but can't find it. I see where Sandy Hook Gateway National Seashore is but where specificly is gunnison's Beach?
Gunnison is easy to get to and very worth the trip! You can get easy directions by getting directions to Sandy Hook Lighthouse. You will see a sign for Gunnison Beach, just past Fishing Beach!
Enjoy!!
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munz
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 7:00:37 PM
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thinking of going this thursday. Has anyone gone durning the week this late in the season ?
if so, what's the crowd like ? Mostly couples? singles? regulars? gawkrs?
is it safe to take my g/f?
The beach is near empty, but hey why not go when it's nice (65 and sunny, however was just there 10-29-09 at 58!)???
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BARENJGUY33
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Posted - 11/18/2009 : 12:40:38 PM
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Hey Gang, word has it the bridge is open at last. Heard it from a friend of mine that lives right near the Hook. She says that they will be doing another span, so construction is not finished, but this may help rid us of some of the traffic coming off the Hook during those beach days during the summer. Hoping to get down there to check out the new situation, and give a full report soon. Take care and stay warm, BareNJ
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nudeguy
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Posted - 11/19/2009 : 03:40:39 AM
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Originally posted by rogandjean
[quote][size=1]We've spoken to many, many couples at Gunnison that wish there was a couples only section - in the past 10 years we've been going to Gunnison, we've never, ever had any problems with other couples or single females - it's always the roving trolls, or fully clothed idiots with their cell phone cameras who create trouble and drive the women and couples away. Have any of the posts complaining about inappropriate behavior here ever involved anyone besides single males?
And before all you single guys start whining and flaming away (yes, I know it's not you, it's the other guys), if you're only there to enjoy the beach and not to gawk, then it shouldn't matter that the couples would be off by themselves without you - you're just there to enjoy the sand and sun, correct?
Sadly, Sandy Hook is one of those places where things have not changed for the better. Back in July 2003, on page 1 of this thread, I wrote a detailed description of what my girlfriend and I regularly witnessed there. Feel free to go back and read it. Just as sadly, someone who was a FORMER moderator on this board tried to change the content of my post and a significant portion of it is gone, with an incomplete cut-off sentence at the end. I know who did it but I'm not telling. As I understand it, that person's moderator status was pulled because of this kind of behavior. Very lame.
Anyway, back to the main topic. Six years later, all the stuff I described in '03 is still going on at Sandy Hook. Now things are worse with the availability of small imaging devices like phone cameras. My girlfriend enjoys nude beaches as much as I do but her comfort level at "The Hook" is not high. At her request, we always seek out a spot that is fairly remote and isolated from foot traffic. But typically some middle-aged or older dude will wander over and stand there for a long gawk after we lie down to soak up the sun. We can never be sure which one of us he is staring at, and some are not even the least bit shy about playing with themselves.  The fact that I have loudly confronted these pervs on a couple of occasions, and am totally willing to confront them again, only heightens my girlfriend's tension when someone hangs around near us.
The last time we were there on a gorgeous day in September, I saw two men engaging in anal sex right out in the open as we walked to and from our spot. We witnessed occurrences like this before. It's not like you have to seek them out, they just happen in front of you at unpredictable times. One of those times a ranger truck drove right by and did nothing. I suspect that because the beach is about 80% gay, these things are tolerated or ignored by the authorities. I'm certainly not anti-gay, I simply think the rules should be uniformly enforced. A regular beachgoer told me hetero couples have been arrested for lewd behavior when caught.
And yes, the roving young guys in their ankle-length bathing trunks like to come around late in the afternoon during regular season (after the entry gates stop collecting parking fees) or any time after Labor Day to check out naked women. Many women see them approaching and throw towels over themselves. Not quite the nude beach etiquette I read about in naturist writings.
Sandy Hook itself is quite good and the only nude beach on the East Coast within our driving distance. Until certain behaviors are properly dealth with, it will unfortunately never be a GREAT beach.
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