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Young_nakedman
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 Posted - 07/11/2004 : 6:02:34 PM
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Puritanical nudism, is a term that I use to describe nudism that has too many superstitious beliefs. For instance nudists who warn others not to use the words naked, nekkid, and butt-naked when describing someone without clothes. They insist that it isn't appropriate to use. Another thing they don't view appropriate is the word "hey" when confronting someone.
They also consider it lewd to squat, wear piercings, have tattoos, to say hi to a woman, (for the guys), to hug in public, to arrive at a nudist venue without a towel, to not carry a towel with you at all times even if your jogging, to have an erection,(for the guys),to dance close to a woman, to body paint below the waistline, to play twister, to kiss in public, to drink in public, to tell someone they are nice looking, to sit alone and watch others, to show up at a party( that was meant for visitors)without being invited, to do anything leisurely with a minor even with parents permission, to stay more than 3 nights at a nudist venue, to strike up a conversation about anything sexual, to dance using the pelvis, to ask someone if the seat next to them is available, to speak to someone without being spoken to first, and to look anywhere on the body but the face.
These are the invisible rules that others have informed me about. I have also experienced a few of them myself. In my opinion to have all of these political rules, is like saying that the human body is sexual, and to break any of these rules is to imply that a person is misbehaving, or committing a sexual act.
To me these rules are the very factor that is driving away people that would love to experience the nudist lifestyle, but due to puritanical nudism, they don't. So unless puritanical nudism is done away with, there will only be home nudists in the future.
This is my opinion, not meant to offend anyone.
Does anyone else feel this way?
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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NudeAl
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Posted - 07/11/2004 : 9:41:27 PM
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Yeah I know what you mean. I think it is more of a problem at some of the older clubs with older members. I'm guessing they may have experienced a problem or two in the past with people taking things to the extreme. The first nudist club I ever went to had a rule about no nudity at the dances the used to have on Friday and Saturday nights. Can you believe it? I mean here we are at a nudist resort and they have a rule that you have to be clothed! Sheesh!
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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calmnude
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Posted - 07/11/2004 : 10:21:27 PM
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i remember that too.
thought folks would lose control close/slow dancing.
didnt think folks knew how to behave.
things in this area have definitely changed for the better.
and like al said, : stay nude all day, and then have to get dressed.
(scratch head, walk around in circles).
but things are better most places now.
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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/11/2004 : 11:57:00 PM
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I agree with the rule "No drugs." I am a firm believer in that rule, and there are other rules that make sense but for the rest of these rules (sorry to say) they are just plain ridiculous. It's a club that caters to people who enjoy being naked....what is the deal? With these rules some might as well put there clothes back on. I'd like to think that most nudists would rather visit a club that is more free, but with the main rules still included, that people have to follow outside a nudist resort. People don't wanna visit a Sunday School, when planning a nude vacation.
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/12/2004 : 09:19:24 AM
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These are unwritten rules that are enforced (even as we type), at some nudist resorts throughout the United States. Not all nudist resorts have these unwritten rules, and some may enforce only some of these rules. To enforce any of these rules is (in my opinion)just asking for bankruptcy, or a closing of a nudist resort, because some people don't want to be treated like third graders when visiting a nudist venue.
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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Admin
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 Posted - 07/13/2004 : 1:45:57 PM
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Young_nakedman, interesting topic. You've managed to get most, if not all, of the reasons people might be hesitant or confused about "nudist rules" into one statement. Well done.
I too have personally seen some of these problems in the making. It was one of the reasons I started this forum.
Okay, how do we address these issues?
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usvera
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 Posted - 07/13/2004 : 4:46:38 PM
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I can tell you how we address these issues in our club... we don't have any rules... simple as that..!
After checking in on my very first visit to a naturist club as a guest for the day... the manager told us how very very much we were going to enjoy the wonderful freedoms of naturism... then handed me a sheet of paper with a long list of rules as she walked away..!
That always bothered me... so we have no rules... but we do have some expectations...
We expect our members and guests to conduct themselves as ladies and gentlemen exactly as they would if they were dressed... with one minor exception... don't ever sit on our furniture without a towel..! 
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Originally posted by Admin
Young_nakedman, interesting topic. You've managed to get most, if not all, of the reasons people might be hesitant or confused about "nudist rules" into one statement. Well done.
I too have personally seen some of these problems in the making. It was one of the reasons I started this forum.
Okay, how do we address these issues?
Bare Hugz... Vera, the Sun Devil
The Diablo Sun Devils... a nudist club primarily for the benefit of women everywhere..!
http://www.DiabloSunDevils.com
Devils@DiabloSunDevils.com
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NudeTLH
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Posted - 07/13/2004 : 8:00:18 PM
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Vera:
Thank you for your message. Bravo.
Al
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calmnude
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Posted - 07/13/2004 : 10:21:16 PM
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vera.
you're generally in the vanguard about behavior and finding fun things to do for your guests.
it's up to the rest of the resorts to catch up to you.
continued success.
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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/14/2004 : 12:56:05 AM
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I like Vera, for two reasons, one she is open minded...and two she knows what it takes to run a nudist resort and make others feel accepted, and comfortable.That only comes from having experienced hardships, and difficulty at nudist resorts in the past. If only some of the other nudist resort owners felt this way....Picture the fun you have now...only ten times better! Thank you Vera, Have you ever considered running a nudist resort?
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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Cheri
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Posted - 07/14/2004 : 6:32:25 PM
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Travelites, Inc.,a nonlanded club, (http://pages.prodigy.net/travelites/_wsn/page3.html) has a very few (twelve) bylaws/rules/regs. Most are about membership costs, visitation, and common sense. These were implemented so that should a transgression occur, there is a way to deal with it. We've had a prospective member get drunk and slap a person's hand away from the hot tub controls because the drunk wanted it cold in the hot tub. Another time, a prospective male member actually started putting his hands on a woman's body.
One was implemented because a child visitor destroyed an antique doll collection of our host.
Regards, Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/14/2004 : 11:29:29 PM
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The drinking rule was a rule that others have complained about....Actually (in my opinion) that rule seems to be a tough rule to regulate, because no on ever knows when a person is sneaking alcohol onto the grounds. So even if the grounds were alcohol free..some people would sneak the alcohol on the grounds, and consume it in their cabins , rooms or tents....and then join the festivities drunk. A lugage check might prevent this from happening. Still others might hide alcohol in their vehicles..so they would have to also do a vehicle check, before allowing anyone access to an alcohol free resort.
I agree that there should be some rules, because without rules there would be complete chaos and anarchy. However too many rules ruins the fun, and prevents people from being social, and enjoying themselves.
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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NudeAl
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Posted - 07/15/2004 : 11:25:50 PM
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I have never been to an alcohol free nudist venue. I know in the distant past nudists were all against alcohol and tobacco and vegetarians were all the rage etc. but I haven't been around that long. I see no problem with responsible drinking but when a person gets out of control it needs to be addressed.
Most of the clubs an places I now attend have very few rules. I used to belong to a club that prohibited body jewelry of anytype. I now belong to one that is very accepting of it. I myself don't like to wear any jewlery but if someone else wants to so what? The club I go to now is also clothing optional. I wasn't sure about this when I first went there but you know what? If someone wants to wear shorts or whatever I can deal with it. It's just like the nude beach I go to some newbies are afraid to let it all hang out. No big deal.
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/18/2004 : 8:21:18 PM
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Whenever I visit a nudist resort I always remember as soon as I arrive that America is a free country, until they allow me access into the gates, then I quickly discard those beliefs for fear of being exiled.
It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.
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CopperQuail
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Posted - 07/19/2004 : 10:55:01 AM
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Okay, my 2 cents.
When I go to a club, resort, etc. I abide by their rules because they organized and built up their club. My opinions of what the rules should be may be different, but as long as I am in their club I will abide by their rules.
If I want the rules changed I either work within the club's stucture or I start a place of my own with people who think like me and I can have or not have as many rules as I want.
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plumbergirlok
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Posted - 07/20/2004 : 7:26:06 PM
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Well, I'm sorry.... I think I've broken almost every rule except for the erection one. I talk to people at a nudist park just like I would anywhere else... yes, even clothed. I'm the only female plumber in Muskogee, OK and when I go out to do jobs I have to talk to people I don't know or else I couldn't get the job done. I agree that if the person acts nervous when you talk to them then it might be better to make sure they know it's just friendly chatter. To me a stranger is just a friend you haven't met yet.
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