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| Marsand Venus |
Posted - 08/23/2010 : 9:52:37 PM
My wife and I are considering a holiday at a clothing optional resort. We normally go to hotels that have a private pool or deck where we enjoy being naked most of the time but we'd like to have the freedom of being able to use the beach too and experiencing a nude environment a bit more. The only problem is that my wife is a bit concerned about being nude in front of fully clothed staff. I suppose the closest we've come to being in a similar situation was when we had a couples spa treatment in a hotel in Thailand. We were in a private garden with an open air jacuzzi, showers etc. but we were naked in front of 2 staff for most of the time during the various treaments. It felt very romantic and a little bit decadent but it might have been different for my wife if the staff had been male. I'd be grateful if anyone can tell us of their own experiences. Do you feel self conscious being served in a bar or restaurant by clothed staff? Is there much staring or ogling at the pool or beach areas? Can anyone recommend a resort where first timers can feel comfortable in front of staff? (Preferably a resort with mainly couples.) Are there any resorts where the staff are nude too?
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| Digital_Cowboy |
Posted - 09/15/2014 : 11:35:39 AM
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Originally posted by nudesunguy
I agree with the poster above who said that management at a resort sets the standard. If they are clothed, the customers don’t feel as strong an obligation to be naked, and you have the “creeping textilism,” that is so common nowadays...especially amongst women. And to address Bill, THAT is the reason what people wear or don’t wear affects us. One sometimes feels out of place being nude at a “clothing optional” resort. Clothing optional is the PC of nudism, IMO.
I’d say that textiles have 99% of the world, and thanks to most everything being clothing optional now, they are encroaching on that last 1%.
As for it being too cold in the office, here’s a simple, environmentally sound solution: turn down the fricking AC! I can’t believe I’m the first to happen upon that idea. The resort we used to go to had the office so cold it was uncomfortable to check in nude. Why? It’s not like people are doing heavy lifting in there.
And if a person goes to a nudist resort and is shocked and turned off by the person behind the desk being naked, then I don’t have much hope for the customer either as a nudist or in life, for that matter ;-).
Nude Sun Guy,
I completely agree with you and the others who have said that the staff/management at a nudist/clothing optional resort set the standard for the environment. If they’re nude then as has been said it encourages the guests/members to also go nude. If they’re clothed then it ever so subtly encourages guests/members to remain clothed.
And as you’ve said for those working in the office who complain that the A/C is too cold. The solution is simple TURN OFF the frelling A/C. Open the windows, use ceiling and floor fans. One of the things that I love about going nude at home is the fact that I do NOT need to run the A/C. Just open a few windows, turn on (actually leave on) the ceiling fan and turn on the floor fan and I’m nice and comfy.
Now let’s look at this logically, we have a person, male or female working in the office greeting guests/members all day at a nudist/clothing optional resort. Guests/members who are more likely than not to be nude or topless or bottomless, they obviously do NOT have a problem with nudity otherwise they would NOT be working in that environment. SO why aren’t they also nude?!?
And I also have to agree with you, in that if a nudist is either “shocked or turned off” by the person behind the counter also being nude then as you said they really are NOT much of a nudist or a human being. As why should they be “shocked or turned off” by an office worker in the “front office” of a nudist/clothing optional resort being nude, or topless, or bottomless in the “front office” of a nudist/clothing optional resort? It should be, pun intended, natural.
Live Long and Prosper
Herman |
| Digital_Cowboy |
Posted - 09/15/2014 : 10:01:19 AM
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Originally posted by n/a
I had visited a resort before and they stuck to being clothing optional for staff except for anyone working in the food areas, so if you were a waiter, cook etc you were clothed in uniform but aside from that I could walk into the main office and find a mix of men and women in various levels of undress.
Yes, I know that this is two-year old post, and I know that the OP has been deleted. That said, with a good friend who is no longer with us I had visited a nudist/clothing optional resort here in the Tampa Bay area where when we went into the restaurant, fully nude that the wait staff was with the exception of an apron for holding their order pad, pen/pencil, etc. were also nude. Plus, if it was a sanitation thing, then shouldn’t the guests also be clothed when dining?
As other’s have said here, being comfortable in my own skin it really wouldn’t bother me if the staff was nude or not, likewise there is another thread here about a female employee walking into the men’s locker room. I do not think that that would bother me either. As it has been said it IS the men’s locker room and it is ridiculous to expect the men not to be nude in the men’s locker room. Yes, it might have better if a male employee had been sent into the men’s locker room, or if there wasn’t one who was free it might have been better to wait until after closing. Or maybe it would be better and I would think room saving to have one slightly larger unisex locker room.
Live Long and Prosper
Herman |
| Digital_Cowboy |
Posted - 09/15/2014 : 12:21:29 AM
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Originally posted by n/a
I had visited a resort before and they stuck to being clothing optional for staff except for anyone working in the food areas, so if you were a waiter, cook etc you were clothed in uniform but aside from that I could walk into the main office and find a mix of men and women in various levels of undress.
Yes, I know that this is two-year old post, and I know that the OP has been deleted. That said, with a good friend who is no longer with us I had visited a nudist/clothing optional resort here in the Tampa Bay area where when we went into the restaurant, fully nude that the wait staff was with the exception of an apron for holding their order pad, pen/pencil, etc. were also nude. Plus, if it was a sanitation thing, then shouldn’t the guests also be clothed when dining?
As other’s have said here, being comfortable in my own skin it really wouldn’t bother me if the staff was nude or not, likewise there is another thread here about a female employee walking into the men’s locker room. I do not think that that would bother me either. As it has been said it IS the men’s locker room and it is ridiculous to expect the men not to be nude in the men’s locker room. Yes, it might have better if a male employee had been sent into the men’s locker room, or if there wasn’t one who was free it might have been better to wait until after closing. Or maybe it would be better and I would think room saving to have one slightly larger unisex locker room.
Live Long and Prosper
Herman |
| Digital_Cowboy |
Posted - 09/15/2014 : 12:13:53 AM
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Originally posted by n/a
I had visited a resort before and they stuck to being clothing optional for staff except for anyone working in the food areas, so if you were a waiter, cook etc you were clothed in uniform but aside from that I could walk into the main office and find a mix of men and women in various levels of undress.
Yes, I know that this is two-year old post, and I know that the OP has been deleted. That said, with a good friend who is no longer with us I had visited a nudist/clothing optional resort here in the Tampa Bay area where when we went into the restaurant, fully nude that the wait staff was with the exception of an apron for holding their order pad, pen/pencil, etc. were also nude. Plus, if it was a sanitation thing, then shouldn’t the guests also be clothed when dining?
As other’s have said here, being comfortable in my own skin it really wouldn’t bother me if the staff was nude or not, likewise there is another thread here about a female employee walking into the men’s locker room. I do not think that that would bother me either. As it has been said it IS the men’s locker room and it is ridiculous to expect the men not to be nude in the men’s locker room. Yes, it might have better if a male employee had been sent into the men’s locker room, or if there wasn’t one who was free it might have been better to wait until after closing. Or maybe it would be better and I would think room saving to have one slightly larger unisex locker room.
Live Long and Prosper
Herman |
| Nudony |
Posted - 09/05/2014 : 9:24:10 PM
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Originally posted by gnarlyoldman
I'm about as naked as I can get, but even I sometimes feel strange being the only naked person at a "CO" resort. The staff sets the tone, and pretty soon its a clothed resort with occasional skinny dipping in the pool or late night hot spring/tub.
Try to convince your SO to go naked when the staff and all the other women are clothed? Not going to happen. Even the visiting AANR Travel club ends up being clothed most of the time.
BIG difference, IMHO, between the nude resort that has a "clothed policy" for check-in/front office, and the resort that has a completely C/O policy.
The first-time I mentioned earlier was at WTP. It's a nude resort; maybe not in the front office/at check-in, but it's nude everywhere else. With a "nudity raincheck" available for newbies. That distinction is important. Maybe my X was a bit distraught by the bottomless introduction; and yes, she was a bit "thrown" by some of the nude people we saw from a distance.
But ultimately, it helped her.
She tried the sauna, then the hot tub; privately. She got into a "When in Rome..." mindset and disrobed. While we were in the hot tub we encountered a friendly nudist. My X found out she could be nude and have a conversation with a nude person without things getting weird. She got comfortable. On her own and without help from me, she decided to try staying nude. Just in the clubhouse, at first. And then on our way back to the car; and then ultimately when the manager asked us to come in the front office and chat; at which point she did so, nude and evidently happy about it.
Would this have happened if she'd been surrounded by a majority of covered people and sarongs? Not a chance!
Aside from the front office/check-in, it is ultimately the policy about nudity within the resort that sets the true tone.
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| gnarlyoldman |
Posted - 09/02/2014 : 5:23:55 PM
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Originally posted by FireProf
A clothing optional place works but too many of these clubs and resorts purport to be "nude" when in fact ... there seem to be more clothed people walking around then nude people. Makes it tough to ask your significant other to go and get naked with you in a social setting when all the others are clothed.
I'm about as naked as I can get, but even I sometimes feel strange being the only naked person at a "CO" resort. The staff sets the tone, and pretty soon its a clothed resort with occasional skinny dipping in the pool or late night hot spring/tub.
Try to convince your SO to go naked when the staff and all the other women are clothed? Not going to happen. Even the visiting AANR Travel club ends up being clothed most of the time.
Sure, I can go naked and the management won't say anything, and usually nobody else will either. But I feel out of place when I'm the only one naked in the kitchen fixing breakfast, naked in camp, naked using the computer in the lounge, etc. Management does set the standards for the guests, and if the standard is clothed, that's what it is.
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| FireProf |
Posted - 09/02/2014 : 3:28:11 PM
I completely understand what Nudony is stating and that certainly does work for some or many but I also understand the other side of the issue which is ... "we're going to a nude resort but you will encounter clothed people all over the place." A clothing optional place works but too many of these clubs and resorts purport to be "nude" when in fact ... there seem to be more clothed people walking around then nude people. Makes it tough to ask your significant other to go and get naked with you in a social setting when all the others are clothed.
I also love those resorts/clubs where office staff, servers, all those working at a nude resort, are nude ... but that's not reality and it's not enough for me to stop going because they are not and we won't change that habit or aspect of nude resort staff working with clothes on. I just don't dwell on it ... as long as I can be naked!
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| Nudony |
Posted - 09/01/2014 : 10:20:16 PM
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Originally posted by nudesunguy
And if a person goes to a nudist resort and is shocked and turned off by the person behind the desk being naked, then I don't have much hope for the customer either as a nudist or in life, for that matter ;-).
I don't entirely agree with that notion. When my oft-mentioned ex agreed to accompany me on a first resort trip, she was very much reluctant; yet willing to indulge me in a nudist trip, under the condition she wouldn't have to participate, and in the hopes she wouldn't witness nudity. At least "up close and personally." When she saw the owner/manager bottomless, she had a moment of discomfort and perplexity. She didn't make a dash back to the car, thankfully; but it did cross her mind.
Granted, after discussion and after running into some naked folks, she got over it. She also got over staying completely covered. So much so that by the end of the day, much to my own amazement, not only was she nude and quite happy about it; but she was actively engaged in conversation with the very same man that had previously discomforted her. She went on to become an actively social, and pro-nudity participant in clothesfree recreation.
Some time later, we were at a non-landed get-together. A man arrived with his very, very reluctant wife. Everyone was nude; she was dressed and aghast. I was quite sure she would at the very least maim her husband for bringing her there.
By the end of the day she was in the hot tub, nude and happy, enjoying a good conversation and laughing with the other women. I don't know if she went on to become a full-fledged nudist; but at that moment she looked like one.
We can debate whether a nude front office works better. Personally, I love it. But indeed, for some newbies, it's going to pose a problem; so I can understand management policies about "covered" front offices.
But I would give the benefit of the doubt, or the benefit of nudity, to newbies who may get a little discomforted by little (or a lot) of nudity when they first walk in. My x's reaction at the sight of the resort owner's penis was just a newbie "knee-jerk" reaction. By gradually immersing herself throughout the day, in a very friendly and accepting environment, her mental barriers, as well as all her clothes, came off. To write shy newbies off from the get-go is giving her less credit than she deserved.
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| FireProf |
Posted - 08/31/2014 : 12:00:11 PM
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Originally posted by Bill Bowser
I suppose it would make sense for everyone at a nude resort to be nude all the time, but personally I believe that everyone at a nude resort should wear as little, or as much, clothing as they wish.
Bill Bowser - Cincinnati
Nudists are everywhere, but they're hard to identify with their clothes on.
There seems to be a little contradiction here ...
"nude resort" ... "wearing clothing..." hmmmmm
In all the clubs and resorts we've visited ... 2 ... 2 outta numerous clubs and resorts we have visited had nude people tending the front office; Shangri La Ranch and The Terra Cotta Inn. Why? Because those nude venues are owned and managed by ... nudists. At Shangri La Ranch, Patty Faber greeted me both times and she was nude, as well as the other female office staff person.
At The Terra Cotta Inn, the Inn is owned, managed and daily operations conducted by the owners who are nudists and they greet their guests nude, roam the grounds nude, visit with their guests and conduct daily office business ... while nude.
At our club, one younger woman seems to do most of the visitor contact work. She checks guest, members in, and also deals with many of the outside vendors and contractors ... she's not a nudist but she was employed for her office skills. I think this is the norm ... hiring those that are actually looking for work, have the office skills needed to run the business and you're not going to find "nudists" that want the job. There are two other women in the office and one of them, I know for sure, is a nudist and she lives on the property. She always takes new comers on their tour but the "nude tours" are so inconsistent. THAT, in my opinion, is where it starts. If you allow people to skirt around the rules then you give them the impression that you don't really enforce the rules, thus ... our "nude" resorts become places where ... visitors, members, residents ... "wear as little, or as much, clothing as they wish."
This is all well and good for the guy that visits alone and doesn't have a reluctant female partner he's trying to bring into the lifestyle. We've heard the arguments for clothing optional and some are very valid but what of the reluctant spouse who is not ready to jump in with both feet and she's asked to get naked but all the other people at the club or resort are clothed?
Bill and I don't usually agree on much and this is no exception; though I don't visit nude resorts to "see" other naked people, I do visit nude resorts to be naked with other naked people and not be naked with other clothed people. I can be clothed anytime, anywhere else besides a nude resort/club where people pay to become members to visit and be naked.
In regards to office staff ... until the are all staffed with nudists and they are staffed with nudists who prefer being nude whenever they possibly can ... we'll always see clothed office staff at resorts and clubs. Maybe, just maybe, those people are the ones that are naked most of the time and they get tired of being naked? Because I have to agree ... if it's too cold in the office to be naked and being naked is what you prefer ... turn the thermostat up or turn the A/C off, seems like the logical thing to do. But I suspect that there would always be an excuse.
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| nudesunguy |
Posted - 08/31/2014 : 10:59:31 AM
I agree with the poster above who said that management at a resort sets the standard. If they are clothed, the customers don't feel as strong an obligation to be naked, and you have the "creeping textilism," that is so common nowadays...especially amongst women. And to address Bill, THAT is the reason what people wear or don't wear affects us. One sometimes feels out of place being nude at a "clothing optional" resort. Clothing optional is the PC of nudism, IMO.
I'd say that textiles have 99% of the world, and thanks to most everything being clothing optional now, they are encroaching on that last 1%.
As for it being too cold in the office, here's a simple, environmentally sound solution: turn down the fricking AC! I can't believe I'm the first to happen upon that idea. The resort we used to go to had the office so cold it was uncomfortable to check in nude. Why? It's not like people are doing heavy lifting in there.
And if a person goes to a nudist resort and is shocked and turned off by the person behind the desk being naked, then I don't have much hope for the customer either as a nudist or in life, for that matter ;-).
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| Warmskin |
Posted - 08/31/2014 : 05:12:41 AM
If the staff is clothed, it's fine with me, but if not clothed, that's fine, too. I'm not there to see if the staff is clothed or not; I'm there to enjoy being clothes-free.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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| Nudony |
Posted - 08/25/2014 : 11:28:35 PM
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Originally posted by free2be
My view...all the above  Working in an office with A/C or just personal comfort that day, I can see them having something on...just the same as for us on the other side of the counter. They may also do it for the "first timers".
Yes. When I was a frequent visitor at BA, I took note of the fact that the front desk manager/owner always wore a sarong when we checked in. I assumed that she wasn't really a nudist; she just worked there. One day, as we arrived, I saw her standing nude outside the front office talking with some guests. My assumption about her was shaken.
After I'd gotten to know her, and we were chatting in the office, I just asked her about front office nudity. And she very candidly explained the sarong, with two reasons:
- AC: the AC unit was right behind her, and blew very cold air. It was just too cold in there for her to be nude throughout the day.
- Newbies: she found that there was two issues with being nude when newbies checked in. Either they were distracted by her nude breasts "hanging over" the counter and just focused on that; or they were outright discomforted by it.
So she just found it more convenient to just keep on a sarong in the front office.
Thinking back to my X's first time ever at a resort: we were greeted by a T-shirt clad owner behind the front desk. I didn't really notice, but the front counter was small, and the guy occasionally walked back and forth from behind the counter. When we walked out after checking in, my X had a perplexed expression on her face. I inquired, and it turned out that his bottomless state was the cause of her turmoil. She had seen his penis beneath his shirt, and she just couldn't get around it. She obviously got over it, but that first encounter was unexpected and weird to her.
Fast forward a year or two later, after we'd become seasoned social nudists. We went to CC with some friends, who had emphatically encouraged us to just disrobe first and check in nude. We all walked in, and were greeted by a lovely owner, who was herself nude, and just came out from behind her counter to greet us. I was enthused by the interaction; and so was my X, who embraced the warm, and nude, welcome. I couldn't help but to think how that would have went if this had been her first time introduction to nudism. Her reaction would have probably been radically different.
What works for a seasoned nudist may not work at all for a newbie. Not my personal preference; but if a front desk person opts to remain covered at check in...I can understand it.
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| free2be |
Posted - 08/23/2014 : 8:19:37 PM
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Originally posted by gnarlyoldman
I see the point, free2be, of wearing clothes at the front gate or check in office. But employees working around the grounds should be naked where guests are expected or allowed to be naked. Management sets the standard.
I agree. Throughout the rest of the resort, the staff should blend in with the guests. |
| gnarlyoldman |
Posted - 08/23/2014 : 10:30:48 AM
I see the point, free2be, of wearing clothes at the front gate or check in office. But employees working around the grounds should be naked where guests are expected or allowed to be naked. Management sets the standard.
Naked is green. |
| free2be |
Posted - 08/23/2014 : 09:48:25 AM
My view...all the above Working in an office with A/C or just personal comfort that day, I can see them having something on...just the same as for us on the other side of the counter. They may also do it for the "first timers". My first visit to a resort, not knowing or wanting to presume I could strip at the car and then check in, I kept my clothes on...plus I was a little nervous as it is a different environment from a beach. When I went into the office and the woman had a t-shirt on, it did made me feel more comfortable. Now think about the true "nubie"...one that has never been nude in any social environment at all. I think it helps to ease them into a comfort level for shedding their clothes rather then "bam" in-your-face nude people talking to you. Same was the reason for the transition from nude to clothing optional at many venues. |
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