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| bzzlzz |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 08:58:41 AM
Over the summer I found myself in a situation that challenged some of my ideas over etiquette and I wanted to present it to the group for thoughts
In July a group of friends and I chartered a Catalina to do some sailing off the coast of the Outer Banks. On board were myself and five other friends I had met through my travel club. The group was coed (three guys and two girls) and at the time no one knew each other very well, but we all wanted to do some sailing and we figured going as a group would be a good way to cut down on costs and get to know each other. The weather was perfect that day, and the wind strong. A little while after we got out of harbor and set a course we all disrobed started to unwind, relaxing on the deck and chit chatting. A few hours later we were moving at a good clip and I found myself at the helm. Mark, who I just recently met, was down in the galley cleaning up after lunch and everyone else was on the fore deck looking for dolphins who had been reported in the area. After finishing up down below Mark came out and stood on the back of the stern facing aft (basically, he was at the very back of the boat looking behind us, for those not familiar with nautical terms) a few moments later I turned around to find Mark urinating off of the back of the boat. The sight took me by surprise but I tried not to look too shocked, he clearly didn't seem to think it was a big deal. A few minutes later after we had been chatting for a while I carefully suggested that perhaps shouldn't do something like that again, especially in a coed situation. He apologized for offending me, but he explained that he really didn't feel like it was a big deal under the circumstances. He told me that he figured since he was easily able to get all of his urine into the sea, sanitation or smell wouldn't be an issue and that the sight of him urinating nude was almost exactly the same as him simply standing nude so it shouldn't bother anyone.
I told him that it was still something he should refrain from doing in public regardless of the context. He agreed that in most circumstances, nude or not, going number one or number two should be done in private, but that there really shouldn't be an issue in this particular situation. He did however promise me that he would not urinate like that again. The issue never came up again, and to my knowledge no one else on board witnessed the scene. The rest of the trip was a blast, but this particular episode stayed with me.
What would you have done in this situation? What else could I have said to persuade Mark against this behavior, or do you perhaps agree with him? Let me know.
Thanks,
bzzlzz
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| Nudiststudent |
Posted - 03/19/2010 : 4:37:45 PM
I have been on boat trips before (non-nudist) wear people have done that off the back of the boat and i never really had a second thought about it. Thats probably because I'm young guy, but personally I cant really see a problem with it as long as he is discrete and doesn't get any one the boat.
I would never do it myself but it doesn't particularly bother me, although it does depend on the other people on the boat and in this coed situation it was not a very wise move on his part.
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| Warmskin |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 05:24:43 AM
Clearly what we need here is a universally recognized designated urinator.
How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without?
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| Redwood82 |
Posted - 11/15/2009 : 08:42:49 AM
I guess the key word to that situation was "strangers." Obviously it was no big deal to the urinator, but it was to the one who caught him in the act. Personally, I couldn't care less, but I grew up nude and have two sisters and a brother and none of us ever thought twice about doing even number twos in front of each other, so I suppose it's just what you're used to. When with strangers though, better to err on the discreet side if you can. In this case the back of the boat might have been as discreet as he could manage.
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| Diger |
Posted - 09/12/2009 : 10:39:54 PM
Exactly Stella, when you’re in the great outdoors you got to do what you got to do.
Diger |
| Stella |
Posted - 09/07/2009 : 2:47:57 PM
From what I know of boating, that is an acceptable thing to do. Just give a heads up, let people turn their backs and do your business. I've been fishing with guys before (I'm usually the only female) and have no problems with a guy peeing off the side of the boat, it's a bit harder for me to do still though lol. |
| Diger |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 10:27:08 PM
For the last few years we have been meeting friends at the nude beach. As all the couples are standing around in the water talking the runnig joke is "Did you feel that warm spot? ... NO ... GOOD" It's a good little walk to the bathrooms and you have to get dressed to go. Everyone does what they have to do and we all understand. What's the big deal?
Diger |
| simplebob26 |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 5:46:19 PM
When i was in the army a while ago, a friend had a boat that we would spend a good deal of the weekend on. No head on the boat, and when someone needed to urinate, they just peed off the side, men and women. We had one female friend who discreetly slid her bikini bottoms to one side to urinate, and another who took her bottoms off entirely and slid her bottom off the side. No big deal, in my opinion. I think bathrooms have their place in the office, or out at the movie theater for instance, but otherwise I don't see the big deal with peeing wherever.
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| Wearinclothes |
Posted - 03/02/2009 : 01:34:42 AM
I'm not a nudist, but I don't see how this should be affect by wearing clothes. When my friends and I are outside and need to pee, we just turn around, walk off and pee somewhere. We may pee in a bush, off the side of a boat, or on ground. So I don't see any harm in it.
As far as women being public, the can pee off the side of the boat tto. Go to the following link if you need to learn how.http://otoh.org/mirror/restrooms.org/standing.html
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| bornnude |
Posted - 08/26/2008 : 07:18:01 AM
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Originally posted by Cheri
I live in the south and have used a tree or a patch of ground outdoors....when no one was around. I would not do it if others are there. That just isn't polite.
Cheri
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The difference in cultures (even when in the same general area) is interesting.
I used to bicycle a lot. It was not unusual, and I suspect still isn't, for the need to strike during a ride where there is no place to go. You would see the occasional bike off to the side of the road and the cyclist behind the tree. Women, men, modest or not, it didn't seem to matter.
The same is true during cross country skiing. It is just part of that culture.
Beaches, resorts, etc. usually have facilities reasonably close so I can understand (and actually agree) with Cheri, in that culture, this is impolite.
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| Cheri |
Posted - 08/25/2008 : 10:34:18 PM
I live in the south and have used a tree or a patch of ground outdoors....when no one was around. I would not do it if others are there. That just isn't polite.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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| Diger |
Posted - 08/25/2008 : 10:01:00 PM
Randy,
Down here in the south we have resorted to peeing on the bushes around our houses just to try to keep them alive in this drought. Of course we've always done that. LOL
I stand by my rights to a Country Pee.
Diger |
| Ranger191 |
Posted - 08/22/2008 : 7:31:46 PM
Randy,
I hate to break it to you, but I'll break wind in front of people. I may be classless, but well, so are my friends and I love'm for it. :) We're OK with that.
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| nudeisntlewd |
Posted - 08/22/2008 : 3:28:44 PM
Urinating anywhere but a in toilet or other private place, even if it’s just an old milk container on a boat, is inappropriate. It’s not part of nudity or nudism. It’s a bodily function. Just like you would excuse yourself to go privately break wind. It’s just (un)common courtesy and (un)common sense. People need to show some class.
Randy |
| emwavehunter |
Posted - 08/22/2008 : 12:30:33 PM
I agree with the way you handled it. What is acceptable to one may not be to another. He should have thought of that and used the proper facilities, depending on the social norm.
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| Warmskin |
Posted - 08/22/2008 : 01:11:50 AM
Warning; I am going to use a pun. Here goes: Mark should have used his head.
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