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| dragonfly |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 6:16:08 PM
I would like to know you alls take on this matter. I feel that women should have the same choise as we men to be top free or not. I have heard arguments like "who wants to see saggy breast flopping aroung". Well not every one wants to see a large hairy man topless but it is his right. I firmly believe my wife has just as much right as I to be bare chested whenever I am. It is a sad fact when we can watch hundreds of acts of violance on TV but finds are handed out for a short glemps of a bare breast. Yet if anyonre remembers the old mini searies "Roots" when the natives were being rounded up to be shipped off to America the women wre all bare breasted and I don't remember any complaints. So lets hear your take.
Tom |
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| JokerCPoC |
Posted - 09/11/2008 : 6:35:40 PM
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Originally posted by Warmskin
quote:
Originally posted by palmer
I was just noticing how toplessness is allowed in some states, and in others it is illegal.
America is NOT A FREE COUNTRY. The only freedoms you have are what the government decides to give you.
It is really sad how the American government has decided that it is okay to discriminate against women because SOME women's breasts are bigger than a man's. If you are a man it's okay to take your shirt off, but if you're a woman you'll be arrested and spend the night in jail with violent criminals eating cheese sandwiches.
I don't know how women stand for it. It reminds me of how muslim men force their women to wear burkas because they are "different".
Women, fight for your rights.
Our country was originally set up with government recognizing that God gave people their freedoms, and not the government. In the last century and in this, government has done its hest (or worst) to convince us that freedom is a gift of government, should they want to spoon out some rights to us. God imbued us with rights, but government tries to cast a shadow on our own innate rights for its own advantage.
In that light, it is natural for some women to go topless in warm weather, just as men have that freedom, too. Let's get anatomical here. Both men and women have nipples. That given as fact, what is wrong with the sight of a female nipple? Better yet, what is wrong with people who think a woman's nipple is obscene of its own account? Should dairy cattle wear tops, too? If not, why can they go topless? Are cattle more free than people? Both the chest of the male and female is divided into two lateral divisions, but only men can show their split chest. Arnold Schwarzenneger has more protruding chest features than some women. Should he be banned from being topless?
What about harm to children, if they see a female breast? Wait a moment. Did not those same children survive and grow because of the female breast? And now the nurturing female breast is a few years later obscene? I'm trying to catch the logic, and am not having much luck. Maybe that is the problem, there is no logic, only the mal-adjusted people who make the quite unnatural laws.
Every living creature that God put on this earth is naked; only the mind of man has the power to ruin it for the rest of us with his/her hypocritical and dark mind.
Sorry for the rant, but the textile world's miniscule mentality does frustrate me with their unnatural obsessions, and humanity avoidance. Grrrrr. 
That government governs best, which governs least - Thomas Jefferson
I see very little that's different between a Womans breasts and a Mans breasts, Outside of hormones or the lack and of course the ability to give milk or grow hair, As a man can give milk If He is injected with the right female hormones, From what I've read half the men out there after puberty get breasts and then they go flat around the age of 20 years, Mine never went down, Junior High was torture as guys in the locker room would say Hey don't You need a bra?
So Yes I'm all for Topfree Equality for Women, without a doubt. If Men can do It, So should Women.
Besides, We all have nipples and It's just more skin, So whats so wrong with something meant for feeding babies? My mother breast fed all 3 of Her children, Me included.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/SimplePublicNudity |
| Warmskin |
Posted - 08/27/2008 : 4:38:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by palmer
I was just noticing how toplessness is allowed in some states, and in others it is illegal.
America is NOT A FREE COUNTRY. The only freedoms you have are what the government decides to give you.
It is really sad how the American government has decided that it is okay to discriminate against women because SOME women's breasts are bigger than a man's. If you are a man it's okay to take your shirt off, but if you're a woman you'll be arrested and spend the night in jail with violent criminals eating cheese sandwiches.
I don't know how women stand for it. It reminds me of how muslim men force their women to wear burkas because they are "different".
Women, fight for your rights.
Our country was originally set up with government recognizing that God gave people their freedoms, and not the government. In the last century and in this, government has done its hest (or worst) to convince us that freedom is a gift of government, should they want to spoon out some rights to us. God imbued us with rights, but government tries to cast a shadow on our own innate rights for its own advantage.
In that light, it is natural for some women to go topless in warm weather, just as men have that freedom, too. Let's get anatomical here. Both men and women have nipples. That given as fact, what is wrong with the sight of a female nipple? Better yet, what is wrong with people who think a woman's nipple is obscene of its own account? Should dairy cattle wear tops, too? If not, why can they go topless? Are cattle more free than people? Both the chest of the male and female is divided into two lateral divisions, but only men can show their split chest. Arnold Schwarzenneger has more protruding chest features than some women. Should he be banned from being topless?
What about harm to children, if they see a female breast? Wait a moment. Did not those same children survive and grow because of the female breast? And now the nurturing female breast is a few years later obscene? I'm trying to catch the logic, and am not having much luck. Maybe that is the problem, there is no logic, only the mal-adjusted people who make the quite unnatural laws.
Every living creature that God put on this earth is naked; only the mind of man has the power to ruin it for the rest of us with his/her hypocritical and dark mind.
Sorry for the rant, but the textile world's miniscule mentality does frustrate me with their unnatural obsessions, and humanity avoidance. Grrrrr.
That government governs best, which governs least - Thomas Jefferson |
| palmer |
Posted - 01/11/2008 : 12:21:27 AM
I was just noticing how toplessness is allowed in some states, and in others it is illegal.
America is NOT A FREE COUNTRY. The only freedoms you have are what the government decides to give you.
It is really sad how the American government has decided that it is okay to discriminate against women because SOME women's breasts are bigger than a man's. If you are a man it's okay to take your shirt off, but if you're a woman you'll be arrested and spend the night in jail with violent criminals eating cheese sandwiches.
I don't know how women stand for it. It reminds me of how muslim men force their women to wear burkas because they are "different".
Women, fight for your rights. |
| WP |
Posted - 01/09/2008 : 10:12:10 PM
Here in Ontario its been about 10 years since topless became legal anywhere. Before the legislation, on our local little beach it would be common to see seveal women of all ages topless when laying down. Most would put their top back on to go for a swim only if there were children near by. We have noticed a gradual shift to rarely seeing toplessness on our beach by our local ladies. Mostly now the females that are topless are from out of Province, I think its the novelty factor. I have asked many of our local ladies that used to go topless why they don't now and their response is either that they don't because now they can or because tan lines are in now. Go figure
Pat |
| gazocool |
Posted - 03/17/2007 : 08:36:35 AM
my wife stopped wearing bras 10 years ago. she considers them trash
who needs it? |
| KindBill2004 |
Posted - 03/06/2007 : 2:00:17 PM
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Originally posted by Jimmy D
Cheri, I can tell you are a very imformed nudist. You always make sense and are well knowleged. What you said about State laws vs municipalities is correct and makes for a sometimes confusing delema. There's also Fed vs State laws. eg; in Marlylnd they do not allow nudity. Feds allow it and thats why who can often be naked on Federal land. If you go to Assategue, one half is Federal and one half is State. I, of couse went to the Federal side to find out I could NOT be naked. When I ask one of the rangers about this, he told me that although the state can not dictate to the Feds to adopt a "clothes on" policy, the Feds do so in order to "work with" the state.
Jimmy D
That's not necessarily the case either. Gunnison Beach is part of the Gateway National Recreation Area (Federal Parkland) New Jersey law doesn't permit clothing optional beaches, but the feds allow it at Sandy Hook. Gunnison is the only clothing optional beach there, the other beaches are all clothed |
| balataf |
Posted - 03/06/2007 : 12:58:33 PM
Thanks, beachnudist, that was a good presentation! |
| beachnudist |
Posted - 02/28/2007 : 12:51:22 PM
Uncovered. Topless in New York. Link to a project by photographer Jordan Matter. Make of it what you will www.jordanmatter.com/exhibits/default.asp?name=nudes |
| old hippie |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 12:02:11 PM
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Originally posted by CopperQuail
The question would then be: How many women in Eugene actually take advantage of that?
Quail,
While there is some aspect of relevence to that comment, it avoids the true question. Exceercise of one's rights should not be a consideration in determining if one HAS those rights. Whether I choose to vote or not, I have that right as a citizen; this fact is not dependent on the convenience of my voting place, nor my estimation of the merits of the candidates. I CAN VOTE. Period.
Now, whether the society at large has the right to determine how or whether I dress is not (so far as I can tell) yet an established right. But a woman's right to be considered on an equal basis with a man is a stated right, according to US law.
Now I wonder if there would be more people availing themselves of their rights to be topless than do vote?
Dum vivimus, vivamus! |
| agde |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 12:00:06 PM
Pending resolution of "topless equality" on US beaches, I was just wondering if anybody has tried body-painting a top? Clearly its not a purist naturist thought, but an interim solution? Wouldn't body paint be good enough for those offended by "naked breasts" and legally constitute being covered?
What caused me to ponder this: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/swimsuit/collection/bodypainting/
A related dumb question: Isn't it difficult legally to define how much women have to cover? |
| photonpro |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 11:37:48 AM
To the main topic I see nothing wrong with topless females on any public beach or mowing the lawn on their own property. It’s quite the norm in Northern Europe and Scandinavia. Many youth hostels have family and coed days where mixed company can share the facilities while nude. I’m in agreement with Hawaii as far as the regular dress code.
When I was in high school only about half of the guys wore jock straps in gym class the rest of us just went commando. For me it was a matter of not wanting to take home a sweaty stinky jock to wash it. I also never experienced discomfort or the need for support. I have to say though that after I had a vasectomy years ago, I found that I needed support for about 5 years and switched to Jockey shorts during that period to prevent discomfort. Bras might well fall into a category like that for those gals that need the support for comfort.
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| CopperQuail |
Posted - 02/24/2007 : 7:06:05 PM
The question would then be: How many women in Eugene actually take advantage of that? |
| DuffyDaDawg |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 7:54:29 PM
I live in Eugene oregon where it is legal for women to walk down the street topless, go figure. |
| Cheri |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 1:47:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jimmy D
Cheri, I can tell you are a very imformed nudist. You always make sense and are well knowleged. What you said about State laws vs municipalities is correct and makes for a sometimes confusing delema. There's also Fed vs State laws. eg; in Marlylnd they do not allow nudity. Feds allow it and thats why who can often be naked on Federal land. If you go to Assategue, one half is Federal and one half is State. I, of couse went to the Federal side to find out I could NOT be naked. When I ask one of the rangers about this, he told me that although the state can not dictate to the Feds to adopt a "clothes on" policy, the Feds do so in order to "work with" the state.
Jimmy D
Jimmy, You might want to do a search on these forums for Federal laws. It is not always legal to be nude on Federal lands.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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| Jimmy D |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 12:08:06 PM
Cheri, I can tell you are a very imformed nudist. You always make sense and are well knowleged. What you said about State laws vs municipalities is correct and makes for a sometimes confusing delema. There's also Fed vs State laws. eg; in Marlylnd they do not allow nudity. Feds allow it and thats why who can often be naked on Federal land. If you go to Assategue, one half is Federal and one half is State. I, of couse went to the Federal side to find out I could NOT be naked. When I ask one of the rangers about this, he told me that although the state can not dictate to the Feds to adopt a "clothes on" policy, the Feds do so in order to "work with" the state.
Jimmy D |
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