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Warmskin Posted - 08/29/2015 : 6:20:29 PM
With the advent of drones, your very private backyard where you spend time nude, may not be private from the vertical dimension. Although it's unlikely you'll be on camera, you never know.

http://www.rt.com/usa/313771-drone-sunbather-wind-turbine/

Something is wrong with my browser, so you might have to copy and paste the website address (URL) above. Here goes. Scroll down the page to the video frame after you arrive at this site.

“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin

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Warmskin Posted - 02/03/2016 : 10:53:26 AM
I grow Texas Privets on my property. They grow very rapidly! They're cold and drought resistant. They can get up to 15 feet in a hurry if you buy the 15 gallon bucket size. They might be pricey, but they get around the 6 foot fence laws quite nicely, although you might want to ask the city or county folks about that. The essentially form a hedge, and block out your neighbors.

“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin

Digital_Cowboy Posted - 01/30/2016 : 7:16:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Daretobare

I intend on contacting someone for legal advice. Our township only allows a 6 foot fence around your property. Being its 7 acres back from my house there isn't any electric. My only option is to seek legal rights



There is another option that you clearly haven't thought of. A spotlight with it's own solar panel.

Something else that you might want to do. Is to see if you can get a clear enough look at it WITHOUT going on your neighbors property. And finding out if it's WiFi enabled. If so see if you can then find both it's MAC and IP addresses and see if you can't either jam it, or "hijack" it and have it send back a cartoon or something.

Also, (and I think that this might have been suggested) what about planting a line of trees in front of it so as to block it's view of your yard?

Live Long and Prosper
Herman
Daretobare Posted - 01/30/2016 : 06:00:09 AM
I intend on contacting someone for legal advice. Our township only allows a 6 foot fence around your property. Being its 7 acres back from my house there isnt any electric. My only option is to seek legal rights
Digital_Cowboy Posted - 01/30/2016 : 12:05:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by pc1961

Daretobare,
Do you have a privacy fence? Can you plant a tree(s) along the property line there to block his camera? One other technique you may try is to mount a high intensity spot light along your property line that shines directly into their camera.

Also, existing peeping tom laws apply to cameras and drones. Contact a local lawyer for advice.



PC1961,

If all else fails I like your suggestion of a bright spotlight. And like you I strongly suggest that Dare contact a good local lawyer to explore his legal options.

Live Long and Prosper
Herman
Digital_Cowboy Posted - 01/30/2016 : 12:03:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Tuffers

Hi Daretobare. Have you no privacy laws in your country. What was the reason for him putting up the camera in the first place? I am a like mind to Fireprof. Also, when you are nude on your property are you breaking any laws? In the UK it is not illegal to be nude on your own land as long as one is not acting in an overtly sexual or offensive manner. Could this moron of a neighbour have any justification in calling in the authorities if you are just mowing you land or hiking. Perhaps he is the one who needs to be reported to the authorities!!

Mike



Tuffers,

If I’m not mistaken DaretoBare is here in the US, Pennsylvania if I am not mistaken. I don’t know what the laws are in Pa, but I did a little research into Florida’s “indecent exposure” laws not too long ago. And it appears to be a very BIG gray area.

So even if he and his wife are NOT breaking any state, county or city laws by simply being nude in their own backyard. That doesn’t mean that neighbors like the one that he has can’t/won’t be able to make his life a living hell.

Live Long and Prosper
Herman
pc1961 Posted - 01/29/2016 : 2:45:39 PM
Daretobare,
Do you have a privacy fence? Can you plant a tree(s) along the property line there to block his camera? One other technique you may try is to mount a high intensity spot light along your property line that shines directly into their camera.

Also, existing peeping tom laws apply to cameras and drones. Contact a local lawyer for advice.
Daretobare Posted - 01/29/2016 : 05:55:18 AM
His camera is just within his property line. When the foliage is full you cant see my property from his house. They have to walk through the woods or use the camera to view my camera. Yes... It is reasonable that they would be watching the wildlife and sunsets. My concerns are not about us being seen unless we are breaking a law of some sort
Digital_Cowboy Posted - 01/28/2016 : 11:29:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Daretobare

The drone dilemma isn’t the only thing to be aware of. We now live in a society where cameras are everywhere watching our every move. This past fall while checking my acreage I spotted a bright spot on a tree. I checked on it and found a hunters outdoor camera pointed toward my property. My wife and I regularly are nude in that area. I inquired with neighbor and found it to be his. I asked him if he would remove it. He said no. I asked him to change it from our direction. He said no. He has two young daughters too. Our being visible is not possible from their home. The camera is their eyes toward us. I explain that we do hike nude and mow nude in the area. He says if he sees it on camera he will notify the authorities. Not much I can do since the camera is technically on his property.



Dare,

First other than this arseholes camera is it safe to presume that when in your backyard that no one can see you and/or your wife when out in your yard nude? If so then I don’t see how anything that he might record on his camera could be used against you.

If he is unwilling to redirect his camera, is it possible to erect a fence or a tarp or something to block it’s view? How close to the property line is this camera? Is there any legitimate way that he can say that he is using it to track game? Or is it an obvious intrusion into yours and your wife’s privacy?

Either way, I’d call the police and file a complaint with them over what he is doing. As nude or not we do or should have a reasonable expectation of privacy not only in our own homes, but in our yards if we’ve taken reasonable steps to protect it.

Live Long and Prosper
Herman
Digital_Cowboy Posted - 01/28/2016 : 11:22:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by gnarlyoldman

I agree with nudistmormon. I decided some time ago that if I want to promote nudism as “normal” then it is hypocrisy to hide my nude photos or to object to being photographed nude. Nude is my choice of “outfit” for today. Nude is not my secret shame that I have to hide. My body is myself and my beauty, not my secret shame that I have to hide.

Twenty-five years ago I was naked at a hot spring in New Mexico when I noticed some guy with a big lens camera pointed our way. I stood there naked and waved to him. I’m flattered if he or someone wants to enjoy seeing me, the real me. I post naked photos on line when I get a chance. My account at Flickr got deleted for too much public nudity. I got blocked on Facebook for posting a naked photo. If someone wants to fly over my property at altitude and photo me out mowing my yard naked I am not concerned.

I would object to a low flying drone because its 1. noisy, and 2. dangerous. I once threw a rock at a low flying helicopter too. Almost got it.

We never will make naked into mainstream as NORMAL as long as we hide ourselves out of shame or guilt. The unseen is unseeable. The seen becomes normal. I, for one, am NORMAL and not ashamed of being naked normal.

Carpe Diem!

Naked is green.



Gnarly,

Well said, as I said I had to laugh when I was watching that episode of “Beach Patrol.” And the man with the woman realized that they were being photographed, and asked for “privacy.” I just had to laugh.

I also have to laugh at all of the people who would never think of going nude, but apparently have NO problems whatsoever in wearing the skimpiest, barely there, and tightest outfits out in public. That includes gals who when going to the beach, pool or park will wear a two piece bikini that is so small and skimpy and revealing that they might as well be nude.

What is up with that hypocrisy?

Live Long and Prosper
Herman
Digital_Cowboy Posted - 01/28/2016 : 11:14:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nature-boy1776

FYI the FAA considers flying model aircraft to be full fledged aircraft and must follow the same rules as applicable. That means that “shooting” down a drone over your property carries the same penalty as taking down a manned aircraft. Prison time and a lot of it. It also mean model aircraft may not be flown within 5 miles of most airports.
I agree that most of the “drones” we see are better called radio-controlled models instead. Drone implies the aircraft is self-piloted and only directed through programming. When I think of drones I think of the military’s “Predator”.



Nature-boy,

Thank you for the information. But I think, and I’m willing to admit that I might be mistaken here. That the courts have upheld a homeowner’s right to protect their airspace and to bring down these nuisance “drones.”

And I also agree with you in that if there is a human “pilot” controlling it remotely that it is in reality a remote controlled aircraft and not a drone. A drone would either be a totally self-contained i.e. as you said programming that controls it, or a combination of programming and a human operator that has the ability to override the programming.

Also sadly, just recently down here in Florida (I think across the bay in Tampa) we had a “drone” that violated a commercial aircrafts airspace.

Live Long and Prosper
Herman
Daretobare Posted - 01/28/2016 : 05:47:52 AM
He claims his wife is a photographer and likes pics of the sunrise and his daughters like to watch the wildlife. We are in our winter home now but when I return in May I am going to check on my rights with law enforcement.
Tuffers Posted - 01/27/2016 : 10:59:28 AM
Hi Daretobare. Have you no privacy laws in your country. What was the reason for him putting up the camera in the first place? I am a like mind to Fireprof. Also, when you are nude on your property are you breaking any laws? In the UK it is not illegal to be nude on your own land as long as one is not acting in an overtly sexual or offensive manner. Could this moron of a neighbour have any justification in calling in the authorities if you are just mowing you land or hiking. Perhaps he is the one who needs to be reported to the authorities!!

Mike
FireProf Posted - 01/27/2016 : 10:24:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Daretobare

The drone dilemma isnt the only thing to be aware of. We now live in a society where cameras are everywhere watching our every move. This past fall while checking my acreage I spotted a bright spot on a tree. I checked on it and found a hunters outdoor camera pointed toward my property. My wife and I regularly are nude in that area. I inquired with neighbor and found it to be his. I asked him if he would remove it. He said no. I asked him to change it from our direction. He said no. He has two young daughters too. Our being visible is not possible from their home. The camera is their eyes toward us. I explain that we do hike nude and mow nude in the area. He says if he sees it on camera he will notify the authorities. Not much I can do since the camera is technically on his property.



I still think that this camera, pointed and focused on your property is nothing more than high tech peeping tom. I truly think you have a legal stand to have him take it down or point it in a different direction.

If it were me and the authorities would not do something about this, I would come up with a few options to block this camera's view of my property. You can bet on that!



Loves being naked. Plays well with others!
Daretobare Posted - 01/27/2016 : 06:00:08 AM
The drone dilemma isnt the only thing to be aware of. We now live in a society where cameras are everywhere watching our every move. This past fall while checking my acreage I spotted a bright spot on a tree. I checked on it and found a hunters outdoor camera pointed toward my property. My wife and I regularly are nude in that area. I inquired with neighbor and found it to be his. I asked him if he would remove it. He said no. I asked him to change it from our direction. He said no. He has two young daughters too. Our being visible is not possible from their home. The camera is their eyes toward us. I explain that we do hike nude and mow nude in the area. He says if he sees it on camera he will notify the authorities. Not much I can do since the camera is technically on his property.
gnarlyoldman Posted - 01/26/2016 : 5:18:46 PM
I agree with nudistmormon. I decided some time ago that if I want to promote nudism as "normal" then it is hypocrisy to hide my nude photos or to object to being photographed nude. Nude is my choice of "outfit" for today. Nude is not my secret shame that I have to hide. My body is myself and my beauty, not my secret shame that I have to hide.

Twenty five years ago I was naked at a hot spring in New Mexico when I noticed some guy with a big lens camera pointed our way. I stood there naked and waved to him. I'm flattered if he or someone wants to enjoy seeing me, the real me. I post naked photos on line when I get a chance. My account at Flickr got deleted for too much public nudity. I got blocked on Facebook for posting a naked photo. If someone wants to fly over my property at altitude and photo me out mowing my yard naked I am not concerned.

I would object to a low flying drone because its 1. noisy, and 2. dangerous. I once threw a rock at a low flying helicopter too. Almost got it.

We never will make naked into mainstream as NORMAL as long as we hide ourselves out of shame or guilt. The unseen is unseeable. The seen becomes normal. I, for one, am NORMAL and not ashamed of being naked normal.

Carpe Diem!

Naked is green.

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