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| melissastarr |
Posted - 04/07/2004 : 8:03:31 PM
Some people love nude beaches. Some hate them. Where do you stand and why? I've never been to one, but I plan to try one out this coming summer.
Melissa
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"Do they say that nudity and sex always go together? Well, then be careful and don't get pregnant while taking a bath." |
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| allglad |
Posted - 07/07/2004 : 8:24:00 PM
hi....being from and in Hawaii does not help understanding nudity policies much easier.
I thought that gays would be given the right to do as they like in their relationship but in the last election or maybe the one before, voters voted down rights for gays by a long shot.
My view on relationships is that everyone should have the right of everyone else...but that does not happine even with our common rights so if and when it is legal for gays will be a step...but it will be a while yet before a majority feels free to do as they like with a concenting partner.
As far as nudity here in Hawaii goes....I see it that policies likely came from the missionaries...and all those of anti-nudisim & anti-polyamory types of life style...claiming it to be taboo. When things are taboo either they are not done or they are some of the best kept secrets. It maybe true a secret is only as good as the person that can or cant keep it....but here in Hawaii taboo things are kept better than most secrets &/or just not done. ...basicly I blame religion for this because it frowns on freedom of belief (sorry to all you extemely religious people who dissagree please do not write me).
Personally I enjoy a nude beach outside Honolulu. There is no legal nude beach here in Hawaii, but some places are safer than others. The safest and "almost legal" public nude beach is the little nude beach located on Maui.
aloha |
| Curious in CT |
Posted - 04/20/2004 : 12:16:48 PM
I'm in the same boat as you Melissa. My home state of Connecticut doesn't have any, so I am hoping to be able to go to a nude beach in July while I am in New Jersey.
Curious in CT |
| Kimberly |
Posted - 04/20/2004 : 03:37:38 AM
Good for you notanlines, you don't want to show up in Hawaii lily white!
Kim =^.^= |
| notanlines |
Posted - 04/19/2004 : 10:21:18 AM
Well, a politician would probably think there were more votes involved in supporting gay marraige then there are supporting people's right to go nude. The atmosphere in Hawaii against nudism is societal and political, but the societal aspect has less to do with nudity itself, and more to do with outsiders I believe. It seems the politicians use the image of nudity and its automatic association with sex in order to scare people, even though the incidents (as we all know) are somewhat rare. Nothing new really, just surprising given that its Hawaii.
On another note, it's a beautiful day on LI and I'm heading to Light House Beach again this afternoon to get some color on my behind, enough of the pasty white butt! Winter is over... :) |
| Kimberly |
Posted - 04/19/2004 : 02:44:08 AM
You have a good point there philzer. A politician may say they support gay marriages, but would not admit thet they are a nudist. Go figure.
Kim =^.^= |
| philzer |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 11:51:15 AM
My experience has been that nudism, even though it seems to fit more into a "liberal" mindset, has equal representation across the entire political spectrum, conservative as well as liberal. It's unfortunate that many conservative politicians try to push anti-nudity as an agenda, but being a nudist, I've found, hasn't anything to do with one's politics. Besides, acceptance of nudity seems more a societal issue than a political one, from what I've observed. That again makes what's going on in Hawaii that much more strange to me.
Philzer |
| Kimberly |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 03:00:53 AM
I was reading that Hawaii was pretty liberal, in support of gay marriages etc. Looks like if they were that liberal they would also be open to nudity. I guess the politicians have their agenda.
Kim =^.^= |
| notanlines |
Posted - 04/17/2004 : 1:18:04 PM
That's right David, nudity was an accepted part of their culture beforehand, and that is discussed a lot among those who support nudism in Hawaii. The problem is in getting the local politicians to relax on the current state of affairs there. I hope it gets better. At least there are a few places to go, but I would love to find a club where I could hang out for the day and play a little volleyball. At the moment it doesn't look like there is any place like that. |
| Kimberly |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 11:09:35 PM
That makes sence notanlines, wanting to protect their heritage. I guess it protects them from being over run by a lifestyle they are not comfortable with.
Kim =^.^= |
| The Bead Man |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 12:58:47 PM
notanlines,
The strange thing is that it was Americans (the European ones, not the natives, nor the Caucasians, who were turned "white" by police slang) who changed the Hawaiian culture from one which accepted nudity into one which rejects it.
Grass skirts were never traditionally worn over bikinis!
Cheers!
David
"The Bead Man"
www.thebeadman.net
The Bead Artist formerly known as Revilo42 |
| naturalgar |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 12:30:30 PM
I agree with what you're saying notanlines. I travel to Bermuda alot. Its a British commonwealth and they too make it real clear that they do not want nudity on the beaches. Bermuda is a very "proper" country, and that adds to the quaintness of the island. I have seen many nude/topless folks on my many trips down there on both Elbow Bay & Horshoe bay beach. The vast majority are visitors from Europe with a few of us thrown in from the states and Canada. There are many hidden coves where you can lose the swimsuit and sun nude and you wont be bothered. They mainly object to open nudity on the main beaches. They will not bother you if you are sunning toppless. I have seen this on many occasions. |
| notanlines |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 10:49:16 AM
Hi Kim, from what I've been reading it's not a cultural thing, it has more to do with a "nude invasion" of caucasians. Apparently many of the local politicians don't like the fact that people visit from the mainland and go nude on the beach, which they feel is disrespectful of the people who live there. I have to admit, the entire time I was there I never saw a native Hawaiian nude, only white people, on the beaches and on the farms. For instance, I stayed in and around Pahoa when I was there, which has a very "alternative" lifestyle atmosphere. There were a lot of hippies and young granola types who thought nothing about walking around topless all day or taking outdoor showers out in the open. I thought this was great, totally comfortable, and very appropriate for where I was, but apparently many locals don't agree. Over the last few years there has been a crack down on nudity on the beaches, some have been closed permanantly to nudists and others are in legal limbo. It's odd that a place that stresses the laid back lifestyle that they would be so anti-nudity, but I guess it's part of their desire to protect their culture from outsiders. |
| Kimberly |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 03:07:03 AM
Why would there not be a lot of nudist activity in a place like Hawaii? Is it a cultural thing?
Kim =^.^= |
| jdr |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 12:28:49 PM
I think the Kona Sun Club is close to your beach, but I emailed and never got a response back. I'm not sure yet that it's a club because the website shows it as being a small resort with a couple of cabins, but doesn't mention anything about a club. I can tell you that the Hawaii Naturist Society no longer exists, and Kahuku Nature Club on Oahu is also gone. If you find a club here please let me know.
Don |
| notanlines |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 11:56:13 AM
On another quick side note, does anyone know of any clubs on the Big Island? I've heard of the Kona Sun Club but have been had pressed to find any info on them. I haven't e-mailed them yet, figured I would do that when I got there. |
