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| jcmt4 |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 4:24:11 PM
this post refers to the 'single-male nudist & direct sex-discrimination'. |
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| Warmskin |
Posted - 01/11/2009 : 02:38:24 AM
I could see having an equal number of males and females at a dance or some such thing, but for nudist resorts, activities are much more random, and are not coordinated, thus there is no need to stack the numbers of guest genders.
I am imagining right now the likeness of the late Mr. Rogers wandering around in the resort. Is he a threat? I don't think so. If the concern is that we men are too aggressive in nudist social settings, keep an eye on us for inappropriate actions. If we are guilt, throw us out.
The only inappropriate activity that I ever saw was a man and a woman simulating sex. The woman didn't appear to be forced by the man to participate.
If I'm that bad of a guy, just send me to the far corner of the resort. If I still can't hack it there, kick me out. Simple.
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can
prevent the government from wasting the labors of
the people under the pretense of taking care of them”
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| capecodjack |
Posted - 01/01/2009 : 10:12:53 PM
So far I am a single male as far as visiting a nudist venue is concerned. However I am a single male of seventy nine years and I don't think I represent a threat to anyone. I hope in the future I will be part of a nudist couple but that has yet to be determined. I am a newbie, having had only one visit to a nudist club last August. Let me explain the circumstances: as a closet naturist for many years I went to an advertised open house at a nearby naturist location. I neglected to make a reservation (I should have payed more attention to the advertised "Open House" ad. After boltering up my courage to go and assuring my wife that this was not a threat to our marriage of fifty five years, I arrived. They asked if I had made a reservation. I had not. So they asked the desk about the quota for single males and the message came back that they were over the quota for single males. They did give me a brochure and a free pass for a future visit and I did make a later visit and enjoyed my clothes free walk around the site and the ameneties that were offered. However the social aspect was missing. There were few people on my visit and I had no interaction with other people that would reinforce my decision to enjoy the lifestyle. This has not diminished my wanting to expand my enjoyment of the naturist lifestyle and I look forward to my next visit. |
| skipre |
Posted - 01/01/2009 : 8:33:45 PM
Some resorts allow single males, however they do discriminate by how much they charge. Check them out, some charge twice as much for a single male as they do for a single female. |
| Drakkus |
Posted - 12/27/2008 : 11:18:14 PM
I find it interesting that everybody here is talking about just dealing with it, because "life isn't fair." I'm not a single nudist, I have a wife who is actually interested in becoming a nudist as well, although probably not as far as me. But, for those of you who ARE single nudists, try doing something about it! Write letters to those clubs which reject you because you're a single male and state matter-of-factly that you think such discrimination is wrong, and explain why, in clear, neutral terms. Don't make threats, obviously, that will definitely invalidate your entire argument, but do explain your case.
If the clubs don't listen, start your own non-landed club. You don't need much. If you have a pool, a big backyard, a large kitchen, what have you, that's all you'll need. Start having monthly pool parties, potlucks, what have you at your own home, or a friends if you don't have the means yourself. Eventually you'll get plenty of members and be able to actually get out of your homes for events.
Even better would be to try drumming up some funds to build a landed club and run it yourself, with your own rules. But the main point is, why just sit on the sidelines? If you feel strongly enough about being rejected from your local clubs, then go out and do something! The best way to change something, is to just go out and change it.
Be True and Stay Naked,
Drakkus
One is nothing more, and nothing less, than what they believe themselves to be. |
| nudeisntlewd |
Posted - 01/09/2008 : 3:45:51 PM
I'd have to agree with go n nude, I think this forum is a place where snobbery isn't prevalent. But I can also understand the frustration that a lot of people have with their experiences. I've had my own. Nudists are a group of people like any other. As long as flawed humans are involved, there will be shortcomings. And we humans will always be involved, because it's us interacting with us.
I'd also like to interject this: Look at the infidelity issues and divorce rates among the married. (I'm divorced and my wife was not necessarily always true to me.) Point being that married people of both sexes have been known to cheat. So married or single, man or woman, anyone can be a threat to anyone else. So I think no one specifically should be suspect, unless they individually give cause to be suspect.
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| go n nude |
Posted - 01/09/2008 : 3:14:22 PM
jcmt: Are you kidding "research" on behalf of your pals, from every angle. You have come to the conclusion its a couples only lifestyle and the snobbery isn't going away. You are saddly mistaken,this forum is one the best, and the honest responses and careing members here are the genuine Nudists you claim to be elusive. You've missed that angle completly and your conclusion is totally misguided, but if thats your opinion, happy hunting.
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| go n nude |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 2:39:18 PM
TravelingMountainNudist,you are so right, no one is perfect and this isn't a perfect movement.The poor single male discrimination is a realality but times are changing slowly and i hope very soon the few resorts/clubs realize they aren't such a threat to their exsistance then anyone single or married.To prejudge one is truely bad for our image and this is something negative towards males only at a "few" clubs. Its their club.Their loss.
go n nude |
| TravelingMountainNudist |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 11:33:38 AM
Sigh.... In other threads we have been talking about changeing the image that woman have for themselves, that is to say improving this image. You have to wonder, what sort of image are we putting by puting out all of this negitive energy towards single men. I mean everyone has to be single at some point and of course single men are looking. Thats that they do! How else are they to find themselves a partner inless they looK. Now mind you there are limits to the thing but come om. Gods, no wonder do have a age gap at the clubs. We yell at young men for being young me. I would not want have anything to do with us either. Just my thoughts....
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| go n nude |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 09:21:43 AM
Yes, Cheri i agree a few clubs still restrict vists/memberships to couples &families.Hopefully the singles behave themselves and don't spoil the welcome mat.The few clubs should be up front about their policies and not turn singles away at the gate. I've been there too,very disappointed too say the least. Times are changing, i am glad the club i joined when i was single was the only club in ON. that didn't turn me away or anyBody.
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| Cheri |
Posted - 01/06/2008 : 7:29:31 PM
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Originally posted by jcmt4
judging by 'go n nude's posting:it seems there is much hypocrisy within the naturist movement, & the single-male is regarded as a disease of society.
Not at most nudist clubs. There are some though that are restrictive. I've been a nudist in the US since 1987, and visited more than 55 clubs as well as founded a club and continue to direct it. There are a great many nudist clubs that welcome single men.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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| Diger |
Posted - 12/23/2007 : 1:21:01 PM
Go n nude,
I agree the many do suffer because of the few, but isn't that true everywhere in life.
Mrs Diger has become accepting of most single males now, but that took a while. We have even made friends of some single males, but the friendships with other couples are more relaxed.
Sorry, but that's just a fact of life.
Not a fair fact of life I might add.
Diger |
| go n nude |
Posted - 12/23/2007 : 12:28:27 AM
The "single male gawker/voyeur" & the single male genuine nudist are all in the same boat. So to speak, they are really all branded outcasts and refused membership or visitation due to this and any other reasons they might have. Genuine nudist's they see everywhere in couples/families unfortunately the single male suffers because of the few Non Genuine charactors they've trusted and wished they hadn't .
go n nude |
| Diger |
Posted - 12/16/2007 : 01:13:05 AM
How many times in how many ways can we say it, it's all about the ladies comfort level. We are not afraid of someone stealing anyone, but if Mama's not Happy ain't Nobody Happy.
Diger |
| Diger |
Posted - 12/09/2007 : 1:55:44 PM
go n nude,
Body image is the big problem and Mrs Diger's self image has had a dramatic improvement. We were talking the other day, when she told me the local radio station was talking about the actress that was getting slammed about some bikini photos that someone had taken of her. I can't think of the actress' name but she has come out saying that young women need a good and healthy body image. The radio station was having people call in about the photos, some thought she was fat and some thought she was being a good roll model.
Mrs. Diger told me she wanted to call in and tell everyone that she was a plus-sized woman and she went to nude beaches and she was proud of her body. She also wanted to tell them that on a nude beach you see all sizes and shapes, further more, no one cared or would even take notice.
She also said she didn’t cause she was afraid someone would recognize her voice. I’m sorry she didn’t and I think she is also.
Sorry for getting a little off topic.
Diger |
| go n nude |
Posted - 12/09/2007 : 09:41:56 AM
Acceptable and comfortable is the reason for their policy. Diger so true beaches see ratios of males 20: 1 female . This forum we out number females greatly and a lot of couples here, the females are reluctant to particpate. The reasons being theirs ?? vulnerabilty, body image am i guessing yes, only they know for sure. They don't like being out numbered they've said and resorts try to keep them happy and content.
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