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sailordave
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Posted - 02/29/2004 :  7:41:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty much a TV junkie. First time I remember seeing anything to do with nudist on television was an episode of Charlie's Angels, after Farrah left. It was brief. The latest blonde had to get on a nude beach to question a guy who was giving a lecture on the danger of too much sun exposure. She was hidden strategicly with palm leaves. The next was an episode of Three's Company. Janet and Mrs. Roper went to the nude beach, it was raided, and they were hiding behind the bushes waiting for their clothes to be thrown to them. Don't remember anything between then until the mid to late 90s with an episode of Bevis and Butthead. They stumbled into a nudist club and froze. Stood there staring all day and part of the night. When everyone went away, they began their stupid giggling because they "saw naked people!". Only other nudism I remember on TV is That 70's Show in which Donna's parents were throwing a party and didn't invite the Foreman's. The Foreman's went anyway, opened the door to discover it was a nudist party. So basicly, only nudist or nudism I remember seeing on TV was for comedy reasons. I'd be worried if HBO or Showtime did a show around a nudist resort. They'd probably turn it into a sexfest for late night. Even if they were brave enough to show full frontal nudity of both men and women, they'd have to put it on late night. They'd probably find it difficult to find good actors willing to appear totally nude through the entire filming. There are current and former porn stars looking to do acting without the sex and they'd be willing but would that put a negative tone to the show that the actors are current or former porn stars?

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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 03/01/2004 :  01:43:26 AM  Show Profile  Send nudeisntlewd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sailordave

There are current and former porn stars looking to do acting without the sex and they'd be willing but would that put a negative tone to the show that the actors are current or former porn stars?



Yeah Dave, I think it would. I think the only way we're going to get quality celluloid (or tape), coverage is if we do it ourselves. But even then, between the FCC, the editors and the money grubbing execs who only want thrills and scandal for profit, where and how could we present it? I don't think we could get it past any of them. And who would watch? Seems like if they're not us, they're against us.

Randy



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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/01/2004 :  02:07:45 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If it is not sensational, then the news media does not want to cover it. If it is just people getting nude and enjoying the sun shine and out doors together, who cares. Now if there is a chance that there are sexual activities, or child molestation, the news media is on it quicker than stink on a skunk. I agree with you sailordave, nudists are always portrayed as people outside the norm.

Kim =^.^=



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CopperQuail
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Posted - 03/01/2004 :  03:22:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The WB Network's "The Surreal Life" recently visited - - - . We hoped it would show nudism in a good light, but it just made us seem sleazy. Weren't the folks at DS thnking? or has it changed that much since our last visit?


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sailordave
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Posted - 03/01/2004 :  08:52:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But wouldn't it be an opportunity for CSI Miami? Didn't some of you say there's a nude beach in or around Miami? Wouldn't it be a viable plot of a body washed up on the nude beach, a hand found in the sand of the nude beach after the tide goes out, or some other mysterious start?


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calmnude
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Posted - 03/01/2004 :  6:17:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dont think american tv is grown up enough to portray nudism fairly.




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sailordave
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Posted - 03/01/2004 :  6:28:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Grown up enough? Hey, Bevis and Butthead is off the air! That means American TV producers have graduated to slightly older teenagers.


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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  04:53:36 AM  Show Profile  Send nudeisntlewd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sailordave

But wouldn't it be an opportunity for CSI Miami? Didn't some of you say there's a nude beach in or around Miami? Wouldn't it be a viable plot of a body washed up on the nude beach, a hand found in the sand of the nude beach after the tide goes out, or some other mysterious start?

That might be an idea. CSI Miami, at Haulover Beach. But that's a network show. They'd just show strategically covered nudity. But I suppose it might be a start.

Lots of interesting stuff floats in there. On my last visit, I was in the water and I collected a black bikini top. When I first saw it, I thought it was an octopus or something . I also found a snorkel that washed up on shore and a 20'long, 8" across, bamboo log. The top and snorkel became free souvenirs-I opted to leave the log .


Randy



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calmnude
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  05:55:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
even if they showed movies like "summer lovers" or the european versions of movies it would be a start


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vealj
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The closest thing I've seen to fair reporting on the nude body was the HBO documentary "Naked States" on Spencer Tunick's art shoots. It was pretty cool, however, Tunick himself admits he wasn't interested in the nudists or nudism per se just normal people posed for the mass nude shot.

Give it another 50 years, maybe we'll have grown up enough in society.

Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
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philzer
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Posted - 03/02/2004 :  8:05:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly

If it is not sensational, then the news media does not want to cover it. If it is just people getting nude and enjoying the sun shine and out doors together, who cares. Now if there is a chance that there are sexual activities, or child molestation, the news media is on it quicker than stink on a skunk. I agree with you sailordave, nudists are always portrayed as people outside the norm.

Kim =^.^=



Kim, that's my observation as well. TV producers must go for what will generate ratings, and I believe that an accurate portrayal of nude beaches/resorts/lifestyles would be pretty boring. After all, we try to keep it that way -- not boring exactly, but relaxing and of course, safe. The only networks that might give us a fair portrayal might be PBS or The Discovery Channel. I am not holding my breath, of course. I would love to own some of the nudist videos offered through Naturally magazine or Nude and Natural, but they're so expensive!

Philzer



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toosunni
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  05:39:58 AM  Show Profile  Send toosunni an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly
If it is not sensational, then the news media does not want to cover it. If it is just people getting nude and enjoying the sun shine and out doors together, who cares. Now if there is a chance that there are sexual activities, or child molestation, the news media is on it quicker than stink on a skunk. I agree with you sailordave, nudists are always portrayed as people outside the norm.

Kim =^.^=
Your right Kim, if it ain't hot and controversial , the media ignores it, did we all forget last years media blitz and politicians chiming in about nudist youth camps. Now, even though all the concerns were unfounded, there are several states that want to restrict it anyway. The only TV shows, not already mentioned, I remember where nudism was a theme was 'Love American Style' where this guy was going to marry into a nudist family, he shows up at his outdoor wedding as the only one in the nude. The other was an episode of 'Unsolved Mysteries'which was about a con man that took advantage of residents at a nudist resort. The show strategically filmed people there having a good time and interviewed some residents, did not judge the nudism, it was just the setting of the show. I guess it was sort of positive since it didnt knock nudism.



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sailordave
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  06:01:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They were probably more concerned with solving a real crime than exploiting nudism


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Revilo42
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  10:34:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Revilo42's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toosunni
The only TV shows, not already mentioned, I remember where nudism was a theme was 'Love American Style' where this guy was going to marry into a nudist family, he shows up at his outdoor wedding as the only one in the nude.

This reminds me of a piece I heard on BBC radio many years ago (it was probably the Home Service for those old enough to remember) with reminiscences from members of the Goon Show - a popular radio comedy act, with Spike Millegan, Peter Sellers and Harry Secombe.

The Goon Show had been booked to perform at a holiday camp, which they only discovered was a nudist camp when they arrived. Not ones to be easily put off, they decided to simply do their show in the nude, with no other changes. They normally just did stage shows wearing smocks and did little physical acting, as though the audience was watching a studio broadcast, so clothing had little significance.

So, after a little reheasrsal (they only loosely followed a script, much was improvised) and taking their clothes off, the went on stage and waited for the curtain to rise. When it did, they got the second shock of the day - the entire audience had dressed for the show!

Cheers!

David
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nudebynature
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  6:44:05 PM  Show Profile  Send nudebynature an AOL message  Send nudebynature an ICQ Message  Click to see nudebynature's MSN Messenger address  Send nudebynature a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The show Arresting Design will feature a kitchen renovation in a house
belonging to a naturist family. (see below for more info)

Arresting Design
W Network (used to be called WTN or Women's Television Network)
This is their #1 rated show.
See your local listings for channel and exact time.
The network is only available on cable and satellite. It is probably not
available outside of Canada.
http://www.wnetwork.com/tv_shows/shows/arresting_design/

The episode airs:
Thursday March 4th at 10pm
Saturday March 6th at 1pm
Sunday March 7th at 7:30 pm &
Tuesday March 9th at 11:30 am.

Background:

On January 14th I did a secret advance interview. On Thursday January 15th
the TV crew arrived and surprised my wife Linda. (it had to be a secret to
her) They "busted" her for a "design crime" and then put her up in a hotel
while the crew and I renovated the kitchen.

We started at 9h30 on Thursday morning and ended just past midnight on
Saturday morning. In the 39 or so hours that this represents, I had 4 hours
of sleep. That was 4 hours more than some of the crew that was working on
the kitchen!

No, I didn't actually do the renovation work. Neither did the hosts, Tammy &
Jeffrey. We were filmed starting all the jobs but then the crew took over.
It would have been impossible to get it all done in time otherwise. Tammy,
Jeffrey and I spent all of our time filming scenes while the renovation team
did the renovation work in the background.

I spent the entire time nude. At first the crew were a little awkward with
it but they got used to it very quickly. After a few hours, people didn't
seem to notice.

We shot 8 hours of film. I'm in most of it (and nude) helping with the
renovation. The final show will be 22 minutes.

Of course, there were lots of jokes and those nudity double-entendre that
the media just can't seem to resist when it comes to naturism. Overall, in
was all in good fun. One of the hosts played the very uptight one who didn't
mind my nudity but would never do it himself. The second host was
middle-of-the road. The carpenter (who is an on-air personality too) was
shot having dinner nude with myself and the two other hosts. Their
discomfort with their own nudity was what generated a lot of interesting
discussion while we were renovating.

I think it will come out well. Of course, it will all depend on the editing.
When you go from 8 hours to 22 minutes, you lose a lot! If you do the math,
you'll realize that 96% of the footage is thrown away!!

I'm quite anxious to see the final results.

Stephane

*************************

Stephane is the President of FCN (Canadian). I got this from Yahoo groups where he posted it.

Cheers,
NBN

Linux: 100% Microsoft Free Computing



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papabare
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Posted - 03/03/2004 :  8:09:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit papabare's Homepage  Send papabare a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
We really need to start a Naturist Video Archive of TV shows showing naturists. I saw one on Home and Garden TV that had traveling gardens. One of the traveling gardens was a retired couple who are nudists. I dont remember them saying anything about it on the show though, though you could see some AANR stuff laying around

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"On the 3rd day of Telecommuting, Dilbert found clothing to not be a necesity" -That Dilbert Dude (quote takin from memmory, dont quote me on it )



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