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Nudony
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Posted - 07/31/2014 :  08:26:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A new person knows.

My gf, whom I have been dating for 8 months now, recently slipped and "outed me" to one of her best friends. Knowing the best friend as someone judgmental, I immediately expected a negative reaction.

I was wrong.

Her friend became very seriously interested and curious about social nudism! After finding out, she started doing a lot of online research and sharing her findings with my gf. She subsequently asked her if she could ask me about it (I was out of town that entire time); and my gf hesitated to give her an answer until she talked to me. I of course said "absolutely!"

I didn't expect I was going to do a "presentation" of social nudism to her friend. But I more than welcome the opportunity to do so. I plan on loaning her my copy of "The Nudist Society" and letting make her own decision about trying a resort.
My gf and I have our first nudist outing (her first ever) later this summer. I would have liked to take her along - if all parties were comfortable with it - but my gf is not "there yet" in terms of being socially nude. We'll just see how the conversation goes and just take it from there.




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FireProf
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Posted - 08/01/2014 :  11:00:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A similar situation occurred with us, our youngest daughter and her best friend. I've made mention of our daughter's best friend in many posts here and elsewhere. She is more like our 3rd daughter. When we decided to "come clean" ... both daughters sought input from their closest friends. To our surprise, most all of their female friends were not only positive about how we lived, they even stated that is something they'd all like to try or have tried.

Back to our youngest daughter's best friend; after she found out about our nudist lifestyle and our daughter told her about our trips to the nude beach, she asked our daughter if we would mind if she went along for the day. Our daughter than asked if they could both go with us the next time. We planned the day, our oldest found out about it and she asked to go. The four of us spent the day at the beach and though our daughters began remembering more and more of their early nudist upbringing ... the best friend re enforced the many positives about nudity and the lifestyle. She was hooked and wanted to return again and again ... which she did, with her husband, our daughter and both couples. Our ex son in law went but did not take his clothes off.

My point; I think having a close friend try nudism with a reluctant partner/girl friend/signicant other or spouse is money in the bank. Our daughter's best friend solidified the idea that nudism was great, it was cool, it was fun and it was liberating and empowering. It certainly helped our youngest with some body image issues and ... we actually converted her best friend and husband to being home nudists.

They, the girls, have often inquired where we thought would be a good place for "them" to go and spend the day at a nude resort. We talked with our friends that own a resort and he said ... "any daughters and friends of yours are always welcome here. We will bend our rules to accommodate." They've not gone yet but ... they both always talk about it, even when we are around.

Maybe your girl friends friend will have just as positive affect on getting your girl friend to see it from someone else's view and not just yours, as our daughter's friend had on her.



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Edited by - FireProf on 08/01/2014 11:03:29 PM

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Nudony
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Posted - 08/05/2014 :  9:28:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FireProf

Maybe your girl friends friend will have just as positive affect on getting your girl friend to see it from someone else's view and not just yours, as our daughter's friend had on her.


Totally true! The funny thing is that since that conversation occurred between my gf and her friend, my gf has been asking a LOT more questions about nudism. Undoubtedly, since her friend took an active interest in learning about nudism, that curiosity has rubbed off on my gf.
Last week end, she and I were out and about around town and we decided to make a stop by my place on our way to another event. She requested a shower; after which she promptly dropped her towel and proceeded to just hang around my place nude. She giggled and said she was "practicing being a nudist." I of course encouraged her to stay comfortable; but I could see she was doing her own thing trying to find her comfort zone being openly nude.
We have discussed a nudist trip; and her main hang up is one I am not used to hearing; she is not concerned with being seen nude. Her concern is actually how she will react when she sees or is approached by nudists. She fears she will actually freak out at the sight or proximity of nude people.
As we negotiate our first nudist trip (it did also take my X an entire year before she consented), one thing is for sure: she wouldn't have seriously considered it without the positive reaction from her friend.





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FireProf
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Posted - 08/05/2014 :  9:31:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Nudony
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Totally true! The funny thing is that since that conversation occurred between my gf and her friend, my gf has been asking a LOT more questions about nudism. Undoubtedly, since her friend took an active interest in learning about nudism, that curiosity has rubbed off on my gf.
Last week end, she and I were out and about around town and we decided to make a stop by my place on our way to another event. She requested a shower; after which she promptly dropped her towel and proceeded to just hang around my place nude. She giggled and said she was "practicing being a nudist." I of course encouraged her to stay comfortable; but I could see she was doing her own thing trying to find her comfort zone being openly nude.
We have discussed a nudist trip; and her main hang up is one I am not used to hearing; she is not concerned with being seen nude. Her concern is actually how she will react when she sees or is approached by nudists. She fears she will actually freak out at the sight or proximity of nude people.
As we negotiate our first nudist trip (it did also take my X an entire year before she consented), one thing is for sure: she wouldn't have seriously considered it without the positive reaction from her friend.






I have no doubt with your extensive experience ... you'll find a way for your GF's first social nude experience to go off without a hitch and she'll be asking when the next trip will be!

I love a good success story!



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Nudony
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Posted - 08/13/2014 :  09:00:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Update...and slight bummer... :/

So the conversation finally happened. I joined my gf and her friend for a beer last Sunday. We talked about different things; when suddenly, after a couple of drinks, my gf's friend (I guess she'd been building up the courage to ask me) suddenly interjected: "Can we talk about nudism?" I of course enthusiastically agreed. So she started asking me about something she'd seen on "Naked buying", a show I've never watched myself. She was curious about clothesfree communities. "Did people actually live on resorts, did they live there nude full-time, what about work, etc..." So I answered her the best I could, that some resorts have homes in them and around them, that retirees and people who work from home mostly make up the permanent residents, while others live in-between the resort and the "real world." Her boyfriend arrived right about that time and started participating in the conversation. From there it was an outpour of questions and answers about nude living vs recreational/social nudity, and nude beach vs resort.
What was nice about it was that it wasn't me defending nudism for once; it was a conversation about how nudism is practiced. Their textile perspective - and open mind about nudism, made it a very enjoyable conversation!

What I didn't expect, though, was how the conversation was going to turn. As we took a break and sat on the side of the patio, my gf's friend suddenly turned to her bf and asked him about trying social nudity. He quietly acquiesced; at which point the friend turned towards my gf and myself and asked us if they could accompany us on my next trip to Mazo beach! I asked her if she truly felt ready to be in a clothesfree environment; to which she replied she had every intention of going nude at the beach! She emanated enthusiasm; so I know she wasn't kidding.

Then...the slight bummer. My gf's jaw dropped. She simply stated that she just wasn't ready.
Trying being nude with me, on the far side of the beach, with no one around or close by was one thing.
Trying being nude with me, one of her best friends and his boyfriend; the three of us all nude, was too "real" or "in her face" for her.
I tried a quick convince that it would turn out fine, that she didn't have to disrobe, that we wouldn't stay too long; but she was stern. So I decide to not put any more pressure on her and backed off; I know better than pressing the issue.
I can understand where she was coming from. Her "first nudist experiment" had suddenly gone from a quiet couple's day at the beach to a group event surrounded by her enthusiastically naked BFF and her boyfriend. It was a stretch.

Now that the Midwest summer is on its way out, I don't know if we will get to make a group nudist trip this year. Bummer...it would have been awesome. We'll just have to wait and see where it all goes from here.




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FireProf
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Posted - 08/13/2014 :  6:07:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not to worry ... or be concerned. It happened here too. Ours was the beach and things going well, met a couple and the beach thing was working and then "they" broached the subject of a "resort." The Prof slammed shut like a clam! Going from the beach, just us, to then meeting another couple and that going well and then going to a resort with ALL THOSE PEOPLE naked around us? "NO F'ing way!" I had to compliment her on stepping outside her vast vocabulary to get her point across. We had a setback on our trips to the beach too.

Not telling you anything you don't already know ... probably gotta regroup and stick to "home nudism" and some just you and her nudism until "she" gives the "I'm ready to go to the next step" response! Good luck! If it worked for me, I'm confident it'll happen for you.



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Horace
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Posted - 08/15/2014 :  09:29:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with FireProf. My wife is adamant about mixing nudism with textile friends. Won't even entertain the subject. No problem getting naked with me at home or at Club O. Is even very social while nude at Club O, going snorkeling and chatting with people, but the idea of being nude with friends where the friendship started in the textile world is very frightening to her. I have to admit, it would be weird for me too. I know it would be fine, but it's a big new dimension to a friendship with another couple.


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rooftopwilly
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Posted - 03/25/2015 :  09:31:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of my aunts is in the hospital, so I stopped there this morning after work to go and see her. At one point she got up to go to the bathroom and her gown was open in the back. She said "don't mind my bare bottom", so I told her there was absolutely no worry there, that I'm naked as much as physically possible. We talked about that for a few minutes, about how even as a kid I liked to run around and sleep naked, and she mentioned some of my cousins who had no problem being naked in front of others as well.

Also, I just started talking to a woman online from a dating site. In my profile I have "naturist" and "skinny dipping" listed as activities that I enjoy, but left out the nudist part because some women just find it creepy. So I mentioned it last night to her and she said "be natural all you want, as long as you put on pants in public".



Edited by - rooftopwilly on 03/25/2015 09:36:35 AM

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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 03/25/2015 :  6:13:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's one of those odd quirks that make human nature so endlessly puzzling. So many of us are perfectly fine going nude amidst dozens of strangers at a nude beach or resort, but would never consider going nude with our next door neighbors, co-workers, cousins, in-laws, or even longtime friends.

Here's an example from my own life. There are two couples that we've been friends with for several years, and we have scheduled "nakations" with them for later this year. What's different about these particular friends? Simple. They were naked when we met them! Social nudity provided the initial context for our relationship; we had no textile "backstory" to make things awkward. And yet, while I've known my best friend for over 40 years and his wife for 30, I can't imagine inviting them to a nude beach or resort. The context just isn't there.

I find the necessity to compartmentalize annoying and rather sad, but there it is. Much as was (and still is) the case with homosexuality, the stigma attached to nudity is so pervasive that we're better off assuming our textile friends and relatives would disapprove, and staying, as it were, "in the closet". It's so much easier "coming out" to one's fellow perverts.



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rooftopwilly
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Posted - 04/06/2015 :  6:20:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same aunt I just mentioned in my last post is back in the hospital. Her and I, along with one of my other aunts, were sitting around in the hospital room today talking. My one aunt mentioned that she couldn't wait until the weather warmed up so she could wear shorts and a tank top again. I said I couldn't wait for it to warm up to wear nothing outside again. So that got the three of us talking. Both of them have admitted to walking around the house naked at times, but they both said they could never go outside that way, not even in a private backyard. So I mentioned that my yard in Florida was private and I never wore clothes out there. I also mentioned my friends yard in Montreal that I used to spend a lot of time naked in. I even had a picture of me in their pool, naked, and showed it to them. We talked about places and I told them I've never been to a resort, but I've been to nude beaches before.


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FireProf
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Posted - 04/06/2015 :  8:34:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well ... our housekeeper and her husband now know for sure! We got our dates mixed up and ... long story short, I forgot to put away ALL the pics I have of the Prof, naked, at various places, in frames, throughout the house! hahahahahaha

We'd finally stopped moving our naturist publications out of sight and there are pictures of our grandkids naked in the pool, in a hotel room, at the nude beach but all the ones of the Prof were always put away when she came. She's a JW and was always leaving us leaflets. I think she thought she may need to save us!

Her husband had to stop working and is on disability so he now comes along with her. I wonder if he races her to the rooms with the naked pictures to clean that room first!? At any rate, those rooms either get cleaned very well because he's in there for so long or ... they don't get cleaned at all cuz he's looking at the nude art and pictures!



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rooftopwilly
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Posted - 04/07/2015 :  05:14:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha, I thought you were about to say he had to stop working because he was offended by the nudity!


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FireProf
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Posted - 04/07/2015 :  10:55:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We thought, for sure, that "she" was going to say ... "I can't clean for you anymore." There are lots of pictures of the Prof and of the Prof and me at various nude places. We each have a nude picture of each other on our night stands, I have a few pictures of the Prof in the office, I have a few pictures of her in my closet on my dresser and on the shelves and a travel coffee cup I use quite often ... the kind that you can make up your own collage of pictures. They are sometimes all over the place and once in a while, I forget to get one or some of them put away before she comes. Most times, the Prof walks around and gets those that I missed. Having the dates wrong this last time ... neither of us remembered!

She must think we can't be saved ... she's stopped leaving leaflets. She's still very friendly, talkative and I think it's because we do try not to push it on them. The Prof was very apologetic that we got our dates mixed up and I think that's why she wasn't as put out as we thought.

Here's the funny thing. I have this little collectible statue of a teddy bear that's sticking his tongue out and pulling his fur down to expose his bare butt. She ALWAYS turns this statue and puts it way in the back of the shelf it's on but she didn't touch the pictures we had out. She didn't lay them down or turn them away ... she just cleaned around them. hahahahaha



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Edited by - FireProf on 04/07/2015 3:24:02 PM

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bqdude1
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Posted - 04/09/2015 :  09:50:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This lady friend of mine that I have known for over 40 years, has known for about 10 years, that I am a nudist . Recently she has been telling me that she is nude around the house and out in her back yard. I do not know if she is telling me this to see how I will respond or if it is the truth. She has asked me to come over to her house to do a small repair job. I was wondering if I should state that I will do it, but I will be nude?

I have been to her house before for parties, and one time, about 4 years ago, there were only three of us left (me and 2 ladies) and we were sitting on the back patio. The other lady, who probably knows that I am a nudist, suggested that we get nude. The hostess, strongly objected, so nothing happened. Maybe she was not ready for her friend to know that she was a closet nudist.

Other times that I have been to her house there is always a neighbor, fiend or relative there so I keep my cloths on. I am getting mixed signals from her and not sure if I should press the issue. I think that the next time that she ask I will just go for it and let her know that I will come over, but that I will be naked. If she gets a neighbor or friend to be there when I am there then I will keep my cloths on unless she says that it is okay to be naked.




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steady78
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Posted - 04/09/2015 :  12:37:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When Mrs.Steady was first starting to join me in nudist activities, she consulted her best friend about her concerns. That friend was very supportive about Mrs Steady going for it as we are in a committed relationship and said " if that's what he's into you should at least try it out for a while". I'm so thankful to her for giving my wife the confidence to join me in nudity!
That same friend has talked about our nude vacations with us many times but, I don't think she would ever join us as her husband is completely against it. I'm quite sure she has occasionally outed Mrs Steady and I with some of her other friends. No big deal to us as we feel nudity isn't some awful thing to hide and speak freely about it when asked .
And as Doc was saying earlier we have mostly clothed friends and a few friends we've met while naked! I wish we had some nude friend close by but we'll have to be satisfied with our nude holidays for now.
Looking forward to Palm Springs!!



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