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marpie
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Posted - 09/06/2006 :  1:55:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a message that I received from one of the girls from [deleted re: photos of minors] forum:
"I don't mind if a man has an erection for whatever reason. Fact is, I like to see it. Sort of shows him off. Some men have a penis that is large when it's soft but doesn't expand a lot. Other man have one that is small when it's soft but grows a great deal. Seeing his erection makes it all come out more honest. I like a man to be proud of his body and if his dick is hard, just go with it; i find it attractive in the extreme"



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CMx2
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Posted - 09/07/2006 :  4:40:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you'll find that the so called "Naturist Christian" forums are a bit lacking in actual naturists and Christians...

I found it to be more of a porn site. So your post doesn't really surprise me at all.



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marpie
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Posted - 09/11/2006 :  03:54:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I think you'll find that the so called "Naturist Christian" forums are a bit lacking in actual naturists and Christians...

I found it to be more of a porn site. So your post doesn't really surprise me at all.



I think you should at least try to check this forum before expressing any opinions and especially those above.
The address is http://www.[link deleted re: photos of minors]
In case Administrator will not allow to show the address (as it happens before for unknown reasons) just type "[deleted re: photos of minors] forum" in Google and this should be the first page.



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CMx2
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Posted - 09/11/2006 :  7:30:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I would not voice my opinion if I had not visited the forum first hand.

I haven't visited them in months but when I did, I was really turned off by many of the posts and many of the attitudes expressed there.


In my opinion, any non-nudist or a non-Christian visiting the site may recieve a very distorted view of both Christians and nudists.
And as a Christian and a nudist I found the site quite distasteful.

I won't be back there.



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werdna
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Posted - 09/19/2006 :  08:05:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been away for a couple of weeks and have just received a bang on the back of my head for agreeing with another post.

The same old theme is being professed as it was in the first few pages and by the same persons.

Thank goodness I am in liberal country Australia even though Queensland could do with a shake-up.
I will keep playing with mud bricks with nothing on except a pair of boots and a hat and if visitors object they can always leave and scrounge a beer somewhere else.

For those of an accepting nature, I always have a spare room for visiting friends.





If you have half-life parties, life becomes one big party the older one gets.



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left coast chris
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Posted - 10/22/2006 :  11:45:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just "wasted" two hours reading this whole thread. I say wasted because, of course, nothing was resolved and there are more productive things I could have been doing. But that is the way I am, and it was interesting.

For the record, I have been to some nudist clubs and many nudist beaches. I have had erections on expansive beaches while sunbathing on my back -- the sun REALLY does do that, folks -- but never in the more social clubs, where people are always around you, and I am more careful to flip at the first sign of motion.

I definitely believe in flipping over when you have a hardon, or hitting the water (here in No. Calif. the water will really do a number on you!) to chill out, if there are folks around who might care.

In reality, though, we all DO know what an active exhibitionist and/or voyeur looks like at a nude space: Eyes glazed, hands furtive, antisocial, prowling or gazing. Many of them DO NOT have hardons, but are rude nonetheless -- although I have never seen one become aggressive. Binoculars or cameras are a bad sign, as is the need to always "adjust" or "scratch" one's peter. In general, these are compulsive addicts who should be pitied rather than feared, I believe.

All that said, I think what I found most interesting about this conversation was how certain individuals decided it was too "open" and should be shut down, implying or outright stating that it was just an issue of "perverts" trying to excuse their behavior. The sense I got was that there is no middle ground -- you are either a pervert or a nudist saint who is never aroused.

Also, everybody's view is colored by their personal reality. If you belong to a close-knit nudist club, especially one with kids, this is not going to be an issue you are going to be flexible on. But if you go to a state beach, you better go knowing that things are going to be a little ragged around the edges. Personally, I wouldn't take my young son to the nude beaches nearest me in San Francisco, if only because I don't want to explain **** rings and piercings!

Last summer, I spent quite a bit of time at a very nice "landed" club around here. People were very nice, and welcomed me even though I am the dreaded single male. I'm pretty socially proficient at putting folks at ease, extroverted, etc. I had no problems with erections, but I did find some of the women pretty attractive and had to be careful not to stare. I would usually go on Saturdays, which always culminated in a potluck and dancing (and some drinking). In my late 30s, I was by far the youngest person I met there!

This cozy asexual scene was rocked for me toward the end of the summer one hot afternoon when one of the members brought her teenage daughter and her friends. They were 18-year-old goddesses, and to make it "worse" they had shaved their pubes (one even had piercings). I averted my eyes from them the entire evening, knowing what would happen if I stared. The image of the first sightings was burned into my mind, though -- if I had been 20 I would have been rock hard and facing the wall for an hour afterwards!

What's the point of this anecdote? Well, I think age plays into this conversation. From what I've seen of the clubs, the nudist scene is mainly one of older people for whom spontaneous erections are simply not that frequent. And while I find older women atractive, they are not built by nature to instantly intrigue fertile males.

(Cheri: Do have boys? Did you grow up with brothers? If not, I wonder if you can understand what it is to be a young man and be hard all the time, whether you want to be or not!)

In general, this all boils down to being sensitive to what is going on around you. If there is 50 yards between you and your neighbors on a beach, don't sweat it, but if you're in line for a hot dog, don't poke the folks in front of you -- hit the cold showers!

A rule of thumb for newbies: The more social and friendly you are with real people, the less likely y



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HarborGuy
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Posted - 10/23/2006 :  11:31:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit HarborGuy's Homepage  Send HarborGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Left Coast Chris. It's sort of funny that you should mention standing in line for a hotdog at a nudist beach.

In fact, it wasn't I who found your reply it was my younger son and he is now 22. He called me over to read over his shoulder about what you said about the hotdog line and it took us back.

That actually happened to us. When I say us I mean my family who consists of me, my older son who at the time was 16, my daughter was 14 and my younger son was 13.

Now at home erections were commonplace as anyone with sons going through puberty knows and we just ignored them. Boys at times can be walking, living, breathing flagpoles, but for the most part they can be discrete about them in public.

Anyway I am one of those who believe that an erection is a natural event and in boys is mostly excused as nature making sure everything works properly. It's sort of like testing a newly built car on the track. That's why they always have 9 miles on the odometer when you get them. (That doesn’t mean that boys should actually be using them by the way.)

So, we are standing there in line and I don't know how hot it was, but we had a beach umbrella and I never spring for one of those. It was HOT and the line was going on forever. We were almost at the counter when my younger son tugged on my arm and indicated down with a nervous face.

I looked down and he was sporting like he never had before. (I didn't mention that since we were going to be standing we figured we wouldn't need our towels so we left them behind at our spot.)

The reason we were at the hotdog stand in the first place was because the kids were starving and begging for something to eat. I had promised them whatever they wanted at the stand and stepping out of that god-forsaken line was a thought I wasn’t going to entertain. Besides I am so firm in my convictions that I was even about to totally ignore the situation and be damned anyone who had a problem with it, but I didn’t want my son humiliated because of something that he had no control over in the first place..

I grabbed my older son and moved him to block anyone's view of the younger son, but before that he seemed to be doing a good job hiding behind his sister for the very same reason.

I was at a panic at that point and didn't know what to do. I couldn't just pull them out of line because that would have exposed them to the whole beach and humiliated them to no end.

Then something remarkable happened. A very nice "dressed" woman standing in front of us turned around and saw what was going on. She said to both of my sons. "Don't you worry about it darlings you just ignore the problem. If anyone in line don't like it, they can just get out of line themselves."

When we got to the counter she demanded that she pay for everyone's meals and that they have everything they wanted at any time that day on her. Sodas, candy whatever. The man behind the counter gave them each even my daughter and I a tab ticket.

It turned out that she was a very prominent woman at the beach and the leader of several social groups there.

She and I talked on and off that whole day as she made her rounds on the beach. She said she can't go a day without seeing teenagers tossing and turning with their "Problem" and she always goes up to them and treats them as if there is no problem at all easing their minds with kindness and understanding.

She believes as I do that erections are SO normal in fact that trying to control them, especially for boys can cause damage later in life leading to the need for Viagra. In fact she was the one who convinced me of that very theory.

She said she is actually ashamed of the people who call themselves naturists, but can’t tolerate things that are natural.

On the other hand she also said that boys can be disruptive, especially around other boys their own age. Being rebellious and causing a scene. She said she understands that, that too is part of puberty, but don’t tolerate that<



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nudistme
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Posted - 10/26/2006 :  9:17:41 PM  Show Profile  Send nudistme an AOL message  Send nudistme a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Massai your logic and philosophical point of view is really interesting! I can only say my personal experience in nudist beaches.
I have been a nudist most of my life in Greece and i can say that i was annoyed not by errections but from people staring while being clothed....
Thats for me the most annoying and embarassing thing .



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werdna
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Posted - 11/02/2006 :  08:13:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Left Coast Chris,
I am in total agreement with your posting. Thinking about it, I have certainly changed shape but I don`t think I have ever had a full erection in a social conversation situation with persons of any age or gender either. The only times have been when I was relaxing or reading a book in the sun or working. It has never happened whilst playing my guitar either.

Regards Andrew

If you have half-life parties, life becomes one big party the older one gets.



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gordie777
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Posted - 11/10/2006 :  9:56:39 PM  Show Profile  Send gordie777 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
erections are a normal function of man and i might say a necessary function of man. They sometimes happen when hes not even expecting them to.I don't think real nudist get alarmed when they do either female or male.Nudist just go about their activities as if everything is normal which it is


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Cheri
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Posted - 11/11/2006 :  10:45:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by gordie777

erections are a normal function of man and i might say a necessary function of man. They sometimes happen when hes not even expecting them to.I don't think real nudist get alarmed when they do either female or male.Nudist just go about their activities as if everything is normal which it is



You might want to read some of the multitude of pages. Yes, it's a natural and normal and some times necessary function, but I wouldn't want you to sneeze in face nor witness any human excretory goings on. It can and is offensive to many. I've been a nudist for about 39 years.
Cheri

Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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Tuffers
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Posted - 11/11/2006 :  11:50:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree wholeheartedly with you, Cheri. I have been a naturist for about 30 years and I can count on on hand the number of times i had a stirring in my loins whilst practising nudism. Yes, it is a natural function but not really acceptable in social nudity. I found the antidote was to think of something like WORK; that soon takes my mind off things!!!

Mike



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BlobbyBob
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Posted - 11/11/2006 :  11:59:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Cheri
Yes, it's a natural and normal and some times necessary function, but I wouldn't want you to sneeze in face nor witness any human excretory goings on. It can and is offensive to many. I've been a nudist for about 39 years.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that men should be tolerated to intentionally give themselves an erection, but merely that if it does happen, which evidently isn't often anyway, that it isn't seen as such a big deal.

I almost laughed at how you compared it to a sneeze or someone defecating because those are 2 things which can spread disease, an erection, at worse, could poke someone in the leg, yet it seems some people think an erection is always a sexual advance when this is simply not so.

Perhaps this thread should be locked, it is never going to go anywhere really, just every so often someone says "I think erections are ok" and then someone replies "You just want to flaunt yourself" blah blah. Waste of time really.

Temet Nosce



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HarborGuy
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Posted - 11/11/2006 :  12:44:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit HarborGuy's Homepage  Send HarborGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I for one enjoy this thread. I realize that nothing may be solved in it, but it give a chance to voice you opinion openly and as adults we can be honest in our feelings both pro and con.

I especially think it's important for new nudists to be able to read up on what's going on in veteran nudists minds and to make educated evaluations based on reality and not what a few people think.



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Tuffers
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Posted - 11/11/2006 :  2:36:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well said, HarborGuy

Mike



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