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brianedwards
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Posted - 07/18/2004 :  6:49:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
one time i was taking a walk on a nude beach with my wife and i got an erection. I was embarrased, but it only got worse. What should you do in that situation? I couldn't "roll over"....I didn't intend to get an erection....I didn't know that you could "will" an erection to life. What should i have done?


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Young_nakedman
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Posted - 07/18/2004 :  7:06:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Leave it alone, and don't give others the benefit to criticize you for it. It's natural, but some people seem to think it's a part of the human body that is not susposed to be exposed...I sometimes wonder what year this is..when this topic comes up.

It may sound like a horse,but it may be a zebra, so don't judge.



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lc1500
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Posted - 07/24/2004 :  10:07:55 PM  Show Profile  Send lc1500 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I have read every post and comment and I must say that this has been an interesting and disturbing discussion and has caused me to “recoil” from getting back into nudism. Most of my experiences in the clothes free environment have been in the west coast and over sea’s in the 70’s and 80’s. Here there is a completely different reaction and response to a male erection much unlike what I view here as akin to penis-phobia.
Please allow me to set one unwaving point. I do not believe that any male or female should be allow to assault or knowingly offend anyone. I am in no way an exhibitionist and I agree that public nudism and sexual activity must remain separate.
But after hearing the responses and reaction to many of you on this subject I find myself fearful of attempting to enjoy myself without becoming offensive, predatory, scary or being thrown out. What I hear is that:
1) I cannot enjoy the view of an attractive woman without total mind-penis control.
2) If I am sleeping on my blanket and thinking TERRIBLE thoughts which result in an erection, I must have a means of being notified of my offensive behavior and cover it up. Maybe a new technology here? Shock therapy?
3) I must be aware at all times of the effect the warm wind may have along with any possible stimulation that walking or playing sports on the beach may have and a means of circumventing it.
4) I better have a long retractable leash attached to my cover up towel or never wander from the cold water.
OMG..I think the only resource is to wear a bathing suit and stay inside and watch the weather channel. What about our better half? Do you not get the slightest bit aroused by a male in the nude? Because your response is much less visible than ours, that makes it acceptable? A counter point.. from what I’ve read on this subject more globally, our women folk in most part have a more realistic commentary and response to this subject that us men do.
I have, in this thread seen analogies of an erection to farting, sneezing, dripping noses and such. Holy cow..if this is the view point of the majority of women (and some of you guys), then we guys should all stay at home and be ashamed of ourselves.

Nudism in my humble opinion has always and in most of the rest of the world is about enjoying the freedom of being cloths free and body acceptance (and please don’t bring up the touching, flaunting and the “children issue”. We all agree on this.) But here it seems that there is a dysfunction in application. Scary, predatory, offensive…my yorkie is almost 6 months old and I need to schedule him to be neutered. I wonder if I can get a 2 for one discount??

I hope I have not offended anyone here as that was not my intension. While I may not agree with some of your assertions and comments, I do respect them. So feel free to flame me if you wish.



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Ned Adams
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Posted - 07/25/2004 :  12:34:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheri,
in reading the archives, I saw your comment. How well expressed. Thank you for it.
However, in my opinion, there is one exception. If the audience is not offended by an erection, e.g. in artistic or photographic session, or some other, in which the audience desires to see the erection, then it is appropriate, because that "polite society" has accepted it in that context. What is your reaction to that?
Ned
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Originally posted by Cheri

Erections too are normal, but they can be offensive to some. There's no problem with people sneezing, but you cover your nose. That's just what you do in polite society

Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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Ned Adams
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Posted - 07/25/2004 :  01:06:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Erections are a very normal part of being a male. Erections are fine as long as they are hands off and not flaunted about.
I agree with that statement.
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Personally I find a man with a partial erection looks fine
Gordon
I agree with that. let me ask about terminology. Did you choose to show yourself with a "partial erection" in your Avatar? If so I commend you.

Ned Adams



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Ned Adams
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Posted - 07/25/2004 :  01:55:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have just read the enire archive of this site and I am very impressed with what I have read. It contains different opinions from a variety of people, who appear respectful of the opinions of others. Cheers.

Ned Adams



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Admin
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Posted - 07/31/2004 :  7:23:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We take no offense with the sincere opinions expressed here. However, in response to the invitations for flaming and avatars of partial erections, I must repeat:

We do NOT allow images of a partial or full erection of any type on this site. Also, the genitals cannot be more prominent than the face.

Regarding flaming: Verbal abuse is NOT allowed (or encouraged, please). Our little community here is one of the few where you can express a true opinion without receiving the usual Internet abuse. And we intend to keep it that way.



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HarborGuy
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Posted - 08/01/2004 :  3:32:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit HarborGuy's Homepage  Send HarborGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheri

Erections too are normal, but they can be offensive to some. There's no problem with people sneezing, but you cover your nose. That's just what you do in polite society

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I'm sorry I just can't agree with you that an erection is always sexual. As woman I can't expect you to understand what a man goes through. Women think that an erection has to do with sex only. It don't.

As a matter of fact it is a proven fact that a man can get an erection while being violently raped.

Erections can happen due to the need to waste. It can also get erect just from the heat of the sun.

My own youngest son was born with an erection. Was that sexual? Infants often have erections. It is a sign of health in that nature is making sure that everything works.

I do not dismis the claim that trying to control an erection may be a reason that some men need viagra later in life.

It is also a fact that men think about sex at least once every 10 seconds no matter if they have an erection or not and one can have very passionate sex when there is no erection at all.

All in all a man is a man if he is sleeping or awake and a penis is a penis if it is erect or soft.

People may need to be educated in nudism, but I think that people need to be exucated in the sexual organs male and female just as much. It is not a wicked evil thing. It is a natural part of the human male body. Feeling offended about an unconcious erection is in my view either ignorance (Lack of education of the subject) or just self flattery.



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Cheri
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Posted - 08/01/2004 :  8:55:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not so much the erection, it's how the man deals with it that is important. As was previously stated (I think by Melissa), sneezing and making love is normal. You cover your nose when you sneeze, and you make love in private.

I very much understand male physiology.
Regards, Cheri

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LVBareHiker
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Posted - 08/01/2004 :  10:53:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm a guy and I understand what a male may go through. I also understand what is good etiquette when out in public. As Cheri and Melissa stated, "You cover your nose when you sneeze, and you make love in private." Is it really a matter of offending someone are not offending someone? I think it's a matter of good etiquette? I believe guys that get an erection in public should be discreet and cover up if possible.

--LVBareHiker



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LVBareHiker
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Posted - 08/01/2004 :  11:07:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is because of the standards set by the moderators of Nudist-Resort.Org, that this site is one of the best naturist sites on the internet. I may rarely post here, however, by reading what most of the regular members have to say, I feel like I'm actually visiting with a group of friends, sitting around a pool or in a hot tub at some nudist resort. Thanks Admin, for giving us a place of quality, to visit and chat.

--LVBareHiker

quote:
Originally posted by Admin

We take no offense with the sincere opinions expressed here. However, in response to the invitations for flaming and avatars of partial erections, I must repeat:

We do NOT allow images of a partial or full erection of any type on this site. Also, the genitals cannot be more prominent than the face.

Regarding flaming: Verbal abuse is NOT allowed (or encouraged, please). Our little community here is one of the few where you can express a true opinion without receiving the usual Internet abuse. And we intend to keep it that way.




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HarborGuy
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Posted - 08/02/2004 :  09:18:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit HarborGuy's Homepage  Send HarborGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I tried to read my post for any offencive remarks before I posted it, please understand that. I was never suggesting that one should not try to cover an erection in public because it is a matter of being polite and I am all for that.

I was only pointing out that an erection is not always about sexual excitement.

My thoughts were never ever intended to be pointed at any one person at all. I was speaking as one person in a group much as if we were all sitting around a camp fire and having a quiet talk. Please understand that and that I am so very sorry if ANYONE was offended in any way.

Dave



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HarborGuy
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Posted - 08/02/2004 :  10:02:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit HarborGuy's Homepage  Send HarborGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
While on this subject I must tell a story that happened to us when we first started public nudism as a family.

My lover and I raised three children together, two boys and a girl and being nude at home was never ever a problem, but when we found a place near us where we could all go and catch some sun we talked about it extensivly before hand.

Our boys were still young teens, but well into puberty at the time as was our daughter.

They all seemed to be doing well and having a good time swimming and playing when our older son had an accident that devistated him. He was not erect, but in a flash of an instant he had a premature ejaculation.

Instantly he was humileated and ran to the car and though we tried to give him some comfort I have never seen anyone so devistated and I cried for him.

I know he must have been atracted to someone near him and though I did not witness it myself he may have either seen something or had been innocently touched by this person while playing a game causing his accident.

I never asked him what happened because I know to him that wasn't important. What was important was the fact that it happened at all.

We had given up on trying to comfort him and had packed the car back up to leave. I had just put the car in drive when we were surrounded by everyone at the resort and blocked from leaving.

Every person at the resort made it perfectly clear to our son that they completely understood what had happened and that he had no control over it at the time and they practicly begged him to put it behind him and stay.

We gained many friends that day and the problem never happened again. There was not a soul there that day who was in any way offended. In fact everyone comforted Mike with unconditional love.

I would like to ask if anyone ever had puberty problems with their children or if this situation was handled correctly in your opinion?

It is history for us now and never talked about again, but I have never seen such situations talked about in such forums either, but I think it should be maturly discussed for any families that are new to nudism or considering it for their families.

Dave



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newdnubia
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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  09:10:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave,

I agree with you, and as I have stated here before erections are a normal everyday part of life. To compare it to sneezing is a strech. One covers their mouth and nose when they sneeze so that they do not spread any germs. This is not an issue with erections. I don't care who you are but if you are a normally functioning man, you will have many during the average day, whether you are clothed or not. I thought nudism was about doing what was natural, but when I read some of the comments here I guess I was wrong, as erections are being treated as such a terrible thing. Erections are not bad, what we do with them may be, but the erection itself is normal. Seeing these posts says to me that I might as well cover up and turn back into a textile, so that I don't offend. To me these views are just as wrong as the textiles views.

Newd Nubia

Freedom, oh freedom!!!



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Massai
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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  8:10:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Group,

A couple more thoughts.

There is a recuring response from those oposing the idea of overt errections by clasifing it as a "politeness issue" and compare it to a sneeze.

However, since this is a bit simplistic, and sounds as merely a request (or demand) instead of an effort to examine the psychology/mechanics of the issue... here is an attempt to exchange sides for a second (as best as I can while putting aside my own point) and trying to construct the opposing argument on their behalf based on my understanding thus far.

What they realy mean to say is this:


**Start**
-Look, we have seen enough examples in nature indicating that aroused males are extremely unpredictable and combative.
-We have heard of an aroused stallion biting its owner to death in view of a female. http://news.excite.com/odd/article/id/402517%7Coddlyenough%7C05-10-2004::09:51%7Creuters.html
-We have seen countless documentaries indicating that the mating season can be a very competitive and dangerous time.
-The "Camping and Wildernes Survival" guide mentions in regards to use of scent for hunting:
quote:
Territorial odors ... depending upon season, have sexual connotations. Using a scent of this type, in the right season, will cause the animal to loosen any of its cautious ways. They will act in an aggressive manner which will help in trapping

You can't tell us that an obviously aroused male is as safe to be around as non-aroused one... and you can't expect us to distinguish between sexually or non-sexually aroused males.

Therefore we have invented the use of the "towel" as a symbol similar to a soldier waving a white flag for a temporary cease of fire.

An aroused male using a towel is like saying: "I acknowledge/concur of my aroused state. Therefore please let it be so that the symbolic use of this towel becomes an indicator of non-hostile intent and a pledge to you that my judgement is still sound and has not become saturated, clouded or short-circuited by savage basic instincts"
**End**


Hopefully this capures the "gut-feeling" intent of those comparing erections with a "sneeze" and insisting on using a towel (or similar).


For a debate (discussion) to be considered healthy it requires open minds. An open mind (among other things) comprises the ability to, at least momentarily, put aside their own point of view and look at the issue entirely from the "other side". Otherwise it is not really a discussion, but rather a series of monologues.



Edited by - Massai on 08/04/2004 8:16:19 PM

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