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CalTom
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 Posted - 04/19/2008 : 10:26:55 AM
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My goodness Jenn, I thought you'd gotten lost somewhere on I-15 after leaving Glen Eden. As many have said, welcome back!
There are a lot of topics under the umbrella of nudism but a few Povlovian ones are of monumental interest, particularly if the individual is male and under the age of 25. We'll leave it at that.
In defense of "that" topic over on another nudist forum a resort condominium owner has been writing in excruciating detail the on-going litigation and difficulties of that former (and future?) premier California property. After having ingested any number of that resort posts dealing with real estate and bankruptcy law, I feel almost competent to go out and pass the California Bar exam. Alongside that, a teen asking if his Willie will make girls swoon seems almost refreshing.
Notice: This moderator, operating under username 'Moderator', has been terminated for repeatedly censoring or altering posts without providing a clear indication of which policy was being enforced. Her actions were not sanctioned by this organization.
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OLD BUZZARD
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Posted - 04/19/2008 : 4:15:15 PM
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Jenn welcome back. I have been posting here for about a year.As a new nudist I had some reservations about going to nudist orgs as comming from a very strict family and was very truly worried about erections. All my life i was told to cover up so sort of led a sheltered life. So to see naked people was somthing new for me,and didnt know for sure if I wood embarrass my self or not,and if i did i know iwould not ever go back. I am 66 years old but still I worried about it.As it turned out I had no problems at all,and wished I had done it years ago. I have joined the magic circle here and its affilaited with T.N.S. which I am a member now. I now have a much better understanding of nudism. But as i new comer I honestly had some fear of an erection,and that held me back for years,only beeing a home nudist with no strangers around.Thanks all for the help............
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SFbayGuy
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Posted - 04/19/2008 : 5:04:34 PM
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Jenn... I see your comments as being about expression and not necessarily nudism.
The beauty of the internet is its ability to put on display public expression from any and all voices choosing to be heard.
The ugliness of the internet is that any and all voices may be heard including some who would be quickly drowned out in traditional forums.
The old saying... take what you like and leave the rest... is very important for anyone coming to a forum such as this.
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agde
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Posted - 04/19/2008 : 7:40:00 PM
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Well, I definitely and fully agree with you, Jenn! I also like GrayWolf's suggestions -- there are already categories on the site for "Nudism, Sex and Sexuality" and "New to Nudism" so it really is just a matter of forum moderators quickly and systematically moving new threads to their proper category. Moving the "Nudism Places" categories (eg. Trip Reports) up to the top of the topics list (eg. above even "General Discussion") might also help reorient the site focus -- it is afterall called nudist-resort.org  .
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Posted - 04/19/2008 : 10:24:00 PM
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First, let me say that I appreciate this particular thread - BOTH "sides" (if there ARE sides). NOW - Though I am 61, I am new to nudism around others. Therefore, I, myself, have MANY questions regarding PROPER exposure and manners around others. Fortunately, being 61 years old DOES give more wisdom than younger folks. Thus, I have been searching threads since I joined this forum a few weeks ago. I am trying NOT to do what some other newcomers do - ask the wrong questions in the wrong threads. PLUS I also am not sure exactly what is "accepted" to discuss. Since this is such a large forum (to me, at least), it is difficult to find what I am looking for. I appreciate those who do NOT want to discuss sexually-implied matters, but I also KNOW for a fact that that IS definitely an issue for new nudists. One person suggested a more thorough dividing of topics. I personally would love that. :-)
I want to do whatever I can to help promote nudism acceptance. If that takes NOT discussing certain subjects on a site like this one - so be it. As long as there is guidance for me to find help somewhere else - NOT just "go find it in another thread!" Hope you all understand what I am trying to say. I REALLY have found a great deal of help in this forum, even though there are some threads I would not let children read. And I think THAT is a good solution. Don't read what you don't like. I believe a "textile" with any discernment would have the good sense to do the same and know the difference. There will ALWAYS be those who will find occasion to use sites such as this to point a finger at nudism no matter how "wholesome" it is. Thanks for reading.
Hiking the Cascades "naturally"!
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Admin
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Posted - 04/19/2008 : 11:10:39 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by agde
Moving the "Nudism Places" categories (eg. Trip Reports) up to the top of the topics list (eg. above even "General Discussion") might also help reorient the site focus -- it is afterall called nudist-resort.org .
agde, how very radical. Placing the main content above the fold on the front page? Are you crazy?
DONE. Smart suggestion.
BTW, if you guys see posts that might not be up to our standards or trollish, be sure to alert a moderator or myself so we can take care of it. A big Thank You to those that have sent in alerts so far!
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openess
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 08:49:01 AM
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I agree with your sentiments Jenn. I believe being without clothes is a physically and psychologically beneficial way to be, and the primary reason I enjoy the forum is to (virtually) be in the company of people who share that belief. Obviously there are posters whose interest in nudism is sexually driven, and that creeps me out at times. I'm not asexual or anti-sexual, but because I see nudism as so intrinsically beneficial in so many ways, those who apparently see it only as a sexual topic are depressingly missing the point, not to mention reenforcing popular negative stereotypes about nudists.
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agde
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Originally posted by Admin
agde, how very radical. Placing the main content above the fold on the front page? Are you crazy? ... DONE.
Truly, truly awesome! Hope others like it as much as I do! Thanks!
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FlCpl4NewdFun
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 12:52:54 PM
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Moderator: WHY DID YOU EDIT MY POST? That first line that you deleted was neither offensive or inappropriate by any means. WTF? DOES THIS SITE NOT SUPPORT FREE SPEECH AND THOUGHT? I thought the job of moderator was to remove inappropriate or fake posts, not CENSOR legitimate posts? That was a total bush league move and I kindly ask you to KNOCK IT OFF! Just delete the whole thing next time if you must. Hopefully enough people will read this before you get a chance to edit this!
Other than the above I thought this was turing into a really good thread.
Tuffers; What I meant about nudists having an exhibitionist streak had nothing to do with any sexually motivated intent. Actors, athletes, politicians, also have an exhibitionist streak that is non sexual in nature. Over and over we're told nudists are just like everybody else but the minute the topic of sexuality comes up your accused of posting it because of some prurient intent. I actually think it's quite easy to distinguish between the two. Typically, if the post is short with no real thought or basis for the question and seems out of place, it might be a troll. In that case I just ignore it. Sure there are some who have an exhibition fetish based on the desire for sexual gratification, but that is entirely different than one being an exhibitionist.
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catbird
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 2:14:57 PM
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Originally posted by agde
Well, I definitely and fully agree with you, Jenn! I also like GrayWolf's suggestions -- there are already categories on the site for "Nudism, Sex and Sexuality" and "New to Nudism" so it really is just a matter of forum moderators quickly and systematically moving new threads to their proper category. Moving the "Nudism Places" categories (eg. Trip Reports) up to the top of the topics list (eg. above even "General Discussion") might also help reorient the site focus -- it is afterall called nudist-resort.org .
Agde,
I agree that the General Discussion category is a collection of all kinds of threads. Especially newcomers just post it in General Discussion, when it should in another category. The purpose of many categories is so that visitors can visit only the categories of interest.
Naturally, Catbird
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Moderator
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 2:17:34 PM
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Originally posted by FlCpl4NewdFun
Moderator: WHY DID YOU EDIT MY POST? That first line that you deleted was neither offensive or inappropriate by any means. WTF? DOES THIS SITE NOT SUPPORT FREE SPEECH AND THOUGHT? I thought the job of moderator was to remove inappropriate or fake posts, not CENSOR legitimate posts? That was a total bush league move and I kindly ask you to KNOCK IT OFF! Just delete the whole thing next time if you must. Hopefully enough people will read this before you get a chance to edit this!
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We try to keep this a pleasant place to visit. When one poster makes inflammatory remarks, those remarks are removed.
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GrayWolf
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 2:40:45 PM
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Well done Moderator.
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Cookie
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 2:54:59 PM
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Jenn:
Welcome back and it is good to see you writing on the site again.
We also agree with you that there is too much talk about erections etc.
It happens!!!
Hope you and your family are well and enjoying the nude life like my wife and I. One thing you have that we don't is the warm weather.
It is starting to warm up in the northeast, but not warm enough to sit out and relax in the sun.
We had a few couples for a get together yesterday, and we were all in the "spa". Nice and warm at 102 degrees.
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FlCpl4NewdFun
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 2:56:52 PM
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I appreciate the response, but it is beyond me how you determined the sentence you removed was in any way inflammatory, it was so benign and harmless. It was a light-hearted one liner as an opening to my post to imply no hard feelings and to set up a post where I actually agreed with some of the issues of the person you apparently thought I was offending. I'm honestly dumbfounded by its removal. I think a better approach would have been reply and state your disagreement with it for all to see. I didn't even get an email saying it had been edited which makes me wonder how many other of my posts have been edited. I can't possibly keep track of all of them so I need confidence the word represented by my screen name are mine and mine alone. I really would prefer next time you remove the entire post and send an email as to why t was removed. I would be lying if I didn't say it has made me question the authenticity of this board. However, overall I do agree this board and its members (including you) are on the up-and-up and that it is a good resource for newbie and veteran alike. So for now I'll chalk it up to an anomaly and move on.
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Admin
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Posted - 04/20/2008 : 3:04:21 PM
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Our policy at Nudist-Resorts.Org is to support free speech, within certain carefully chosen limits necessary for this forum.
To address Jenn's concerns, yes, discussions of men's concerns regarding an unwanted erection are naturally a part of a new male's experience in nude recreation. It is sometimes difficult however to determine whether a certain thread has a prurient intent- a favorite game of the troll. We depend on you, the members, to help us spot these fake posters. We make every effort never to censor real member's comments. Where an edit is necessary, proper moderator's etiquette requires an openly visibly explanation.
Where a certain business is being discussed, if your contributions to the discussion are based on personal, verifiable observations, and are not unlawfully damaging to a business or person, they should remain.
It is ultimately our decision to determine when a comment is clearly not based on fact, and that a reasonable person would conclude would be detrimental and unlawfully slanderous of a business.
For instance, claiming that a certain resort's water supply is not safe would be unlawful and damaging to the business. However, stating that the resort was fined for unsafe water is a matter of public record, and easily verifiable.
The issue of whether mention of - - - 's bankruptcy should be allowed has indeed tested the legitimacy of our forum. I believe if we refrain from embellishment beyond what is public record, we are on safe legal and moral ground. We do not want to harm a business in any way, especially when they are having difficult times.
If your post has been censored or altered in any way, please email your original comment, as best as you can reconstruct it, to me. Include the original thread address so I can restore the original post if I deem it harmless.
I am considerably less conservative than our Moderator. While she does a wonderful and tireless job of helping me keep out the creeps, she should be allowed to make a mistake occasionally. In this case she may have been a bit overaggressive in keeping potentially harmful discussions off our forum. Please accept my personal apology if you were offended by someone altering your post.
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