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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  3:01:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have witnessed chaos, in this running of the torch to China for the summer Olympics which were originally staged in the nude in Greece. Too many radicals in San Fran including a group who would like to see it return to all nude competion, it took a detour, their disappointed no major embarrasment or violence. It wouldn't do any good. The textile industries wouldn't want to loose $$$ Millions for sure. You'd know the boys from the girls without gender testing. The body is beautiful and a shame this tradition unlike the TORCH is forgotton.

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Cookie
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  7:46:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
with China trying to put on a facade that all is well in their country, and we all know that is not true, I honestly feel the U.S. should boycott the Olympics, and heres hoping other countries will do the same.

when the Olympics were held in Germany back in the "30's" little did we know what was going to happen in the years ahead with millions and millions of people being murdered.

The Olympics are not the event that it was back in the 60's etc. We now have pros playing in Basketball, and we all know that many of the countries are using steriods.

Stay Home!!!!


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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  11:13:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since going back to school full time I don't have time to keep up with anything else, so my daily representation of the world is professors and students. Every day I come into contact with Romania, Russia, Germany, India, Columbia, Canada, Spain, Puerto Rico, Brasil, China, Cuba, the Bahamas, Cyprus the U.S. and probably some others that escape me at the moment. I'll take my friendly version of the world over the political stuff any day...

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Tuffers
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  11:33:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cookie

with China trying to put on a facade that all is well in their country, and we all know that is not true, I honestly feel the U.S. should boycott the Olympics, and heres hoping other countries will do the same.

when the Olympics were held in Germany back in the "30's" little did we know what was going to happen in the years ahead with millions and millions of people being murdered.

The Olympics are not the event that it was back in the 60's etc. We now have pros playing in Basketball, and we all know that many of the countries are using steriods.

Stay Home!!!!


Cookie



Totally agree with you Cookie. I think the UK should join the USA in boycotting this sham of an Olympic meeting. The lack of human rights, not just in Tibet but throughout China should be exposed to the world. I fear US$'s and £ Sterling are too important to our respective governments to risk upsetting the Chinese though!!



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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  12:47:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Red China we used call it, has its chance to show this World its true colours. They claim they're not communist goverment they once were, or are. The Olympics is for athletes and countries should send their best to represent them. All politics aside they've trained for years to go and may never have that chance of a lifetime repeated. Unless they be harms way or worse, i hope not. A communist country hosting the Olympics it must be Gold.

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nudewalker
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  2:05:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is a shame that the Olympics have become such a political and business sham. It started in Munich in the 30's, to Moscow and LA later and finally China. Not only were the Olympics concieved to be a celebration of the athlete but it was a celebration of the arts and culture. Wars were stopped in the ancient times in honor of the Olympics. I personally would like to see less events, more individual competition; not competition between countries, and of course in the nude. Take that Nike, Adidas and others!


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FlCpl4NewdFun
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  2:47:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boycotting the olympics wouldn't do a bit of good to push China towards democracy.

During graduate school I studied in China for several weeks. Of all the Asian countries I visited I found China the most warm and welcoming of outsiders. I also found many things quite awful such as the blatant copyright infringements of dvd and computer software, the massive presence of soldiers in Tenement Square, the disgracefulness of touring manufacturing facilities in which the college educated workers couldn't even afford to buy the products they were producing, and the list goes on. Shanghai was quite modern and filled with vibrant energy and entrepreneurial spirit. while Beijing still had the old Red China feel and attitude. And of course the worst of all was the pollution (BTW China just recently surpassed the U.S. as the world's largest polluter) It's easy to be judgmental, but remember the U.S. had the luxury of industrializing when there were no regulations or burdened with the additional costs of pollution control equipment. I'm certainly not giving them a pass, but for a very poor country, energy is the key to future development and their appetite for oil is just as insatiable as the rest of us. But make no mistake the people were very friendly and many of the young people on the street would stop and want to just talk to practice their conversational english. Can't imagine that going on here in the U.S.

True, the government is awful but protesting is not the key. Education and access to information will ultimately set them free. It can't be stopped.

Further, I bet the vast majority of those protestors have not a single ounce of true conviction. They need to take a close look at how they live and what they are consuming. Everybody wants inexpensive products, cheap energy, and an affordable cost of living, but we can't have it both ways. If we want to protest China, stop buying its products, until then those do-gooders can just go suck-it! kind of reminds me of those folks that go out and protest against nuclear power because of concerns about the safety of the spent fuel on one day, then the next day cheer and welcome home a U.S. air craft carrier into port. I guess they figure those ships and submarines run on pixie dust.

True meaningful protest is economic and respects the freedoms and rights of all individuals that may disagree with them. The people carrying the torch have gotten a once in a lifetime opportunity. Taking that opportunity away from them is just pure selfishness and it brings to light the true credo of many of today's protestors :"Free Speech for ME, not for Thee" Protest that takes away the rights of others and prevents them from speaking or expressing an opinion is not protest at all, it's tyranny.

Let's not punish the athletes who have worked hard and trained all their life to get to the olympics.



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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  5:45:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FlCpl4NewdFun, I once heard that the chinese are very welcoming, sometimes it's scary. However I also heard they do so 'cause they're afraid you might want to change something while you're there (they don't want western culture to mix with theirs).

Also, I play online quite a lot and I can tell you that certain countries like China and Taiwan monitor in-game chat messages of chinese players and messages coming to chinese players. Recently taiwan were cut off only to be reinstated grouped with the US accounts. The game developers managed to go round the problem (for now at least) but it clearly shows the style of governance in those places.

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Posted - 04/13/2008 :  06:53:58 AM  Show Profile  Click to see EuroTim's MSN Messenger address  Send EuroTim a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
"Education and access to information will ultimately set them free."

China violently invaded Tibet decades ago and the world has kept quiet. Now they're saying it's an internal problem. Well, it's internal only because they took over an independent neighboring country and all the education and access to information has done nothing to free Tibet! Now China has quietly, but successfully, invaded the economies of most of the world and everyone is sitting around hoping that if we let them do it, they'll learn from the influence our markets will have on theirs.
Bullhinky!
They're very clever and not prone to or willing to be influenced by 'our' culture.

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Tuffers
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Posted - 04/13/2008 :  08:13:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have we not learnt from history that appeasing a tyranical government does no good.South Africa was boycotted by the rest of the world readily enough until appartaid was defeated. Their sportsmen were in the wilderness for a long time. Those men in blue who accompanied the torch were viscious Chinese Special Army units. We saw those "kind" considerate men in action on British soil!!

If the world were to stop trading with China then perhaps their totalitarian government may, just may consider the human rights of their people. With the Billions that the Chinese have spent on the Olympics a worldwide ban may just make them think.

Also can someone remind me who boycotted the Moscow Games. My memory is failing me. Politics gets into sport every time.



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nudewalker
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Posted - 04/13/2008 :  10:40:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The USA boycotted the Moscow Olympics after the Russians invaded Afganistan, then the Russians boycotted the LA games in retaliation. Needless to say the only ones that suffered were the athletes.


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Tuffers
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Posted - 04/13/2008 :  11:08:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, that is politics for you. Perhaps the USA and UK should invade China to get rid of the evil government. Perhaps not, they are bigger than Iraq!!! Thank G-d for nudism; at least we are peaceful people!!!


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Posted - 04/14/2008 :  04:25:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This topic is controversy indeed, the Olympics were originally held in the NUDE and How that changed,Why and When is beyond me. GOD knows we don't need anymore WARS, we just don't get it. I understand the war on terror is costing the US 200 million$$ a day and thats just the money, more important the loss of LIFE is staggering, against a Yellow race (cowards) bent on destroying anyone non MUSLIM in the world.God help us. Someone said it would take all the Worlds resources to stop that attack,time will tell. When the world goes to Beijing this summer they'll be not the enemy many fear.

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Posted - 04/14/2008 :  05:02:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tell that to the innocent people of Europe that perished following the 1936 games that were held in Berlin. Human rights are essential to all and every one of us.




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Posted - 04/14/2008 :  08:58:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
50 years of blockade to Cuba have done nothing but strenghten the resolve of the their government. The policy of boycott does nothing to promote good-will or exchange of ideas. As we saw of the US boycott of the Moscow olympics, the only suffering or bad feelings presentrd were towards the Athletes, who trained all their lives for a statement that couldn't be delivered by them because they are merely atheletes who wish to compete regardless of political differences. No, the Chinese are not perfect, neither are we. Let the atheletes do the talking by winning gold medals and competing on a level playing field!


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Posted - 04/14/2008 :  12:21:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Something that happened at the '36 games: Joe Lewis creamed the German contender VERY badly. Not only was he an American, he was a Black American. I think that did more than a boycott would have. Just my 2 cents.
Cheri

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