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vietboy
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Posted - 09/12/2006 :  04:36:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found this exciting story and many photos of beautiful nude Vietnamese girls on the Internet. You can access the photos at the link at the bottom of this posting.


Nude photos can be very artistic. This art form is recognized as having come into existence in 1831, and it was well received by the Western public.

The people in these photos appear to think that being photographed in the nude is quite normal. It is a very different story here in Vietnam where people are so self-conscious. To look at a nude photo is something dirty and wrong, and taking nude photos would be something on the far side of bad.

In 2004, the Vietnam Photographers Association for the first time presented the B Prize to Le Quang Chau from Hanoi for his nude photo entitled "Harmony." (In Vietnam, the B Prize goes to the second best photos at the annual photo competition). Is it possible that the recognition of this photo will promise a bright future for this form of art in Vietnam?

Now that's a sad story

A photographer in Thai Binh province took some nude photos and put the film in a box that had, by some mistake, "mother-in-law's funeral" written on top of the box. One day, when he wasn't home, his wife's sister came by and asked for copies of the photos of her mother's funeral. His wife took the roll of negatives from the box. Before taking the negatives somewhere to get copies made, the wife took a look at the negatives and saw the nude girls. She got very angry and destroyed the film. After that incident, she goes along with her husband on his photo shoots.

The story of photographer Nguyen Thai Phien, who has won an international prize for a nude photo he took, is also interesting. He once went on a business trip to Buon Ma Thuot. While staying at a hotel there, he got a phone call from a woman. She asked him if he'd like to come to her house to take nude photos for her. When the photographer arrived, he saw a nice, middle-aged woman. She said that her husband was away from home and that she wanted to give her husband some very special photos of herself. The woman asked Phien to shoot two rolls of film, leave the film with her and he could charge what he liked. The photographer told the lady that he'd take the photos for free if he could keep the negatives. No thank you, the lady said. Phien took the photos and gave the rolls of film to the lady, collected his fee and left her house. The next day she had someone deliver 20 new rolls of film to the photographer.


Photographer Nguyen Thai Phien looks forward to the day, hoping it will be in his lifetime, when nude photography, an art form recognized around the world, will be tolerated and even appreciated by the Vietnamese people.

The power, though not wisdom, of public opinion

In Vietnam, both the photographers and the girls in nude photos are looked upon as people of low morals. Phien said, "It’s probably the common view that nude photography and nude photos are something that does not fit alongside the traditional customs of Vietnamese people. But from an aesthetic point of view, it is a higher quality of human beings that can discover and enhance beauty. Photographers seek to create photos, sometimes nude photos, which have within them reality, soul and artistic beauty.

Photographers have complained that Vietnam has no laws or regulations that apply to nude photos or nude photography. Photographers do not know where they stand when taking nude photos.

Meanwhile, the nude photos taken by Marina Cox, a photographer from Belgium, and those taken by Jaschi Klein and C. Marek from Germany impress millions of hearts all over the world.

Art lovers hope and expect that some day there will be a nude photo show in Vietnam. Nobody has any idea when such a day will come. The author of this piece believes that beauty is eternal, and it is for each of us to open our mind and eyes and appreciate the world around us.

By Thanh Tam

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imnude2
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Posted - 09/12/2006 :  11:32:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Vietboy,

Thank you for sharing this information on nude photography. The couple of pictures here are not offensive to me because these photos represent the artwork of the photographer. I wondered what the "Moderator" of this website may have "Edited" from your post. (I would be curious to know anytime the "Moderator" deems it important to delete information, I think it is just the curiosity in me, I suppose.) I took a look at the website and I seen a couple more pictures that were also the same types of photographs as those you posted here. All the photos are very nice photographs of the artistic work done by the photographers.

It seems to me like this subject of nude fine art photography or many of the photographs of the "artwork" would not be allowed to be posted in this nudist website (in my opinion.) For some reason (I do not understand,) the artwork is viewed as something other than "artistic" work. Strange to me that of all people, nudists who feel (whatever it is they feel about nudity) would not appreciate the "nude" in an "artistic" way. I believe many cannot admit openly that they like this type of artwork. I gather that it is somehow tied to portraying a "nudist" as a non-sexual being. And still, I do not understand why the contradictions in many posts I read.

I appreciate the fine nude artwork, it is beautiful.

Best wishes,

ImNude2


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Moderator
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Posted - 09/12/2006 :  4:45:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imnude2

Hello Vietboy,

Thank you for sharing this information on nude photography. The couple of pictures here are not offensive to me because these photos represent the artwork of the photographer. I wondered what the "Moderator" of this website may have "Edited" from your post. (I would be curious to know anytime the "Moderator" deems it important to delete information, I think it is just the curiosity in me, I suppose.) I took a look at the website and I seen a couple more pictures that were also the same types of photographs as those you posted here. All the photos are very nice photographs of the artistic work done by the photographers.

It seems to me like this subject of nude fine art photography or many of the photographs of the "artwork" would not be allowed to be posted in this nudist website (in my opinion.) For some reason (I do not understand,) the artwork is viewed as something other than "artistic" work. Strange to me that of all people, nudists who feel (whatever it is they feel about nudity) would not appreciate the "nude" in an "artistic" way. I believe many cannot admit openly that they like this type of artwork. I gather that it is somehow tied to portraying a "nudist" as a non-sexual being. And still, I do not understand why the contradictions in many posts I read.

I appreciate the fine nude artwork, it is beautiful.

Best wishes,
ImNude2




Nothing was deleted from the original message.
The subject topic was re-worded to be more acurate.

The Moderators and Administrator try to keep this a fun, family-friendly forum and hope you'll help us if you see anything inappropriate and let us know.
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vietboy
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Posted - 09/13/2006 :  12:11:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank Moderator for making the story clear. Also a big thank you to ImNude2. Like you, I'm as keen as mustard on artistic nude photos. Artistic photos of nude girls make the girls more beautiful, and help viewers have better taste about the beauty. In my opinion, the photos don't provoke any sex-related things.

Hope that you and others will share nice photos of this kind. I'll search for Vietnamese photos and post them in a couple of day.

Thank you all

vietboy



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Kangen
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Posted - 09/13/2006 :  12:25:29 AM  Show Profile  Send Kangen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi vietboy, I'm newest member at here.
Mmmm.. it's really good, would your share your photograph in natural life.
To all, I need your support :)



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imnude2
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Posted - 09/13/2006 :  12:31:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Moderator: Thanks. I have seen a few "Edited by Moderator" posts and I really never get to see what is "Edited" so this time I thought I would comment about that when I noticed this post was edited. Also, because it seemed like it could be a controversial issue as far as the models poses in some of the fine artwork of nude photography (based on a couple of forums I looked at.) Again, thank you for your comments & suggestions.

Vietboy: You're welcome.

Sincerely,
ImNude2


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Admin
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Posted - 09/13/2006 :  4:30:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It would be great if when nudist photography was mentioned, the general public thought of this type of artistic and tasteful presentation.

There is no problem here showcasing notable nudist photographers, especially when their work has helped to bring non-erotic nudism into the mainstream.

Our support ends where the focus is on viewing the body (not the setting), or especially where the subject is posed with the legs open toward the camera in some manner. Anything drawing attention to the genitals, even if subtle, will not be published on this website.

Google seems to like our policy, since our photo gallery was mentioned on one of Google's video news programs, Nudie Central. I don't think they'd get involved if their researchers thought we supported anything questionable or erotica disguised as nudism.

Also, any nude photography of minors must be at the discretion of the moderators exclusively. It is in this area the public (and Google) would appreciate our efforts to remain the most tasteful and restrained.

To sum up, a tasteful and techically difficult presentation, with the focus away from the private parts, is always welcome, as long as this site never becomes a hub for nude photo collecting, trading or selling.



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Rodders
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Posted - 09/13/2006 :  5:12:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do we nudists have private parts I respect the views of Admin and also feel that I know the difference between an honest nude image and porn, but I've seen pictures involving open thighs which have been well within the naturist ethos regardless of the exposure of genitals. No room on this site or forum for porn of course. Quite rightly so. Plenty of sites available for that stuff for those poor souls who have such a need.

Nothing wrong with the vietboy's lovely picture and it is a most pleasing image, well taken, posed and executed.




.,

Rod



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vietboy
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Posted - 09/15/2006 :  12:03:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all, esp. Admin and Rodders. This posting may be irrelevant, but I like the photos. What do you think?

The Naked Truth on Shooting Nudes


Deserted Spring by Nguyen Thai Phien (Vietnam)

There are major obstacles to overcome to get into nude photography, not least of which is the need to practise technique. By its very nature there has to be at least one subject, and the big problem for the photographer here is image. To some the image of nude photographer is tied in with the “dirty Macintosh” brigade, with the false wig and dark glasses.

Not everyone believes the adage that an erotic photograph, does not have to be nude, and a nude photograph is not necessarily erotic. The biggest challenge is to find a suitable model, and certainly in small town rural backwater areas, it is not the brightest propaganda move to put an advertisement in the Post Office window. It is also suspect to approach someone in the street.


"Diem xua" by Nguyen Thai Phien

Impeccable credentials help here, an image of a bona fide photographer, with a studio, and a business card with a portfolio. A professionally created business card also helps; a ripped off part of an old envelope invites suspicion. It is not necessary to have a portfolio of nudes, but it is essential as an aid of creating the feeling of trust. It can be very helpful to not tell a prospective model what you do, but show them, and depending on their responses take it from there.

A lot of nude photographers start with a self portrait an this is better than nothing in some cases. There are several other methods that can be used to find people to model. Your first option is to hire professional (glamour) models. That can be expensive, and they're not often familiar with that type of work.

The second option is to hire amateur models, or perhaps even nude still life models, the problem here is that the latter will have no inhibitions taking their clothes off, and may be able to sit still and hold a specific pose for long periods of time, however they may not be the best models to animate themselves.

The third option is not to pay a model at all, but find someone with a vested interest in making a portfolio work. Whilst thinking about this matter during the research for this article it occurred to me, that the ideal person, would be someone who would be prepared to model in exchange for a portfolio, or other photographic service. In other words, a model who has a reason to make the session work will undoubtedly put more effort into overcoming any technical difficulties. Perhaps you know someone who is pregnant who might want to model in exchange for the photos.


A work of Herb Ritts

Secondly that type of model will produce better results, than some eighteen year olds with a perfect body and a bad attitude. A personal model with enthusiasm to explore different perspectives and techniques has to produce better results than a wooden, but perfect doll. It does not alter the fact that your model must be at peace with the thought of nude modelling as a whole, but a sensitive relationship with the photographer will work wonders here. The rules are no different for a photographer here than a portrait photographer, he or she must first have self confidence. If you cannot get that across to your model he or she will be reluctant to give it their best shot.

This type of photography is striving for a look that is natural, and even has a look that it has not been posed for at all. Comfort is essential not just physical comfort though that is important, but mental comfort, the model must be able to understand the concept behind what you are trying to do so that she can co-operate. You have to take the time to explain the techniques of flattering compositions, but equally the model has to work on being fluid and graceful in these motions.

A good relationship with your model built on confidence is essential when you come to evaluate and criticise the work. Your first session will create the tone for future work, but that is when a model will be her most nervous, a way of getting over this barrier might be to ask her to come accompanied, and that may make for a lighter more relaxed session.

Working with the same model over a number of sessions builds up a rapport, and helps the model learn what works in the images, and what doesn't. She has to be able to see the completed image, before this is really possible. As the model becomes more familiar with how you work and experiences the crucial processes of making an image, the model becomes better at generating poses which work for you, and on the whole, the number of successful images increases.


A work of Helmut Newton

The locations for this type of photography is not important in terms of the finished image, but it needs to be a little circumspect, or you have to take along a person who watches for stray wanderers if it is outdoors. Lighting normally seems to be better if it is natural, but a single candle can be effective particularly with the use of an older model.

It is important to think ahead before this type of assignment and instruct a model to wear loose clothing and possibly no underwear as strap marks into the skin can take a long time to subside and will ruin the final shots.


A work of Spencer Tunick


Once you have managed to break into this type of work there are many stock libraries that specialise in this type of work.

By Roy Barker

Source: http://www.khampha24h.com/modules.php?name=News&opcase=detailsnews&mid=1868&mcid=78&menuid=


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jeanluc
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Posted - 07/29/2007 :  11:23:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I realize that it has been a while since anyone replied to this topic, but I us wanted to add a bit.
I am new to this forum and as I have mentioned elsewhere, I am just beginning into a nudist life, albeit at home and by myself. However, one of the things that has brought me to the realization that nude is not lewd has been finding a site where artistic nudity is the only thing shown. There are some photos that do show the genitilia, but a nude person has that. The moderator may edit this if he wishes after checking out the site, but to me http://www.domai.com is where I start my day.
I am what is called a photography enthusiast (I aspire to be professional but have not taken that plunge yet) and artistic nudity is one of the areas I definitely want to pursue. This site has give me many wonderful ideas on how to show the female body in the nude without the suggestive looks, etc.
Some pictures in this site are better than others, but along with the newsletters written by we real people (yes I have had a couple published there as my pseudonym Joe Sweeney), I enjoy what is presented and not ashamed to admit it.



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