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NaturistDoc
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 Posted - 05/10/2005 : 11:33:29 PM
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I'd like to recommend Living Waters Spa in Desert Hot Springs (just north of Palm Springs)for couples looking for a very quiet, relaxing retreat from the real world. No phones, no TV, just great people and wonderful artesian hot spring water. Oh, and great massage from the owners. Check their website and the reviews on tripadvisor.com.
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FireProf
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 Posted - 05/14/2005 : 3:09:20 PM
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Doc,
Thanks for the recommendation. The Prof is partial to Terra Cotta but I think I may be able to talk her into trying another place that is simular.
Do you both go there often? How far from Downtown PS is the Living Waters Spa?
Thanks again.
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 05/15/2005 : 5:20:07 PM
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LWS is less than 15 minutes from the Palm Springs airport. We've been there twice, and are meeting some friends there June 16-19 for a massage workshop.
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JohnD
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Posted - 05/16/2005 : 6:19:09 PM
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It's no more than 15 mins from downtown Palm Springs as well. My wife and I highly recommend it. We have been 4 times. Each time has been great. Have met really nice people. The constant is the owners, Jeff and Judy. They make your stay great and make sure that you get to know all the other guests.
Doc--You will love the massage workshop. We did that over this past New Year's. Lots of fun!
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FireProf
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Posted - 05/17/2005 : 12:45:52 AM
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Thanks to both of you for the information on LWS. Sounds like a place the Prof and I should visit one day soon.
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pilot
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Posted - 05/30/2005 : 10:42:46 PM
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I would be grateful for a trip report on Living Waters Spa. I have to lecture in San Francisco in mid October and am thinking of taking a 4 day mini-vac en route home to the midwest. Palm Springs area is a quick flight from SFO...
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 06/02/2005 : 2:35:36 PM
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Pilot,
I have a little more time on my hands now, so I can write a bit more about Living Waters. My wife and I have been there twice and have really enjoyed it. In fact we're going back in 2 weeks.
The place is rather non-descript from the outside. It features a funky old 1960's motel sign ("The Kismet Lodge") from the original site that Jeff has restored. Inside are 8 guest rooms, about half with full kitchens, surrounding the pools. the rooms are simply furnished but comfortable, and the beds are great. There are no TV's or phones in the rooms. Jeff has wireless internet access if you need it. The pools are wonderful. First is the smaller 100-degree pool fed directly from the hot springs. This in turn feeds the larger swimming pool which typically runs 85-88 degrees. Since the pool water is continually replaced by spring water, they don't need to chlorinate it. Very nice.
Breakfast is typical B&B fare, although Judy's pastries are above average. They also bring out snacks at 3:00 PM which are always interesting. There aren't any restaurants within walking distance, and frankly, I have been very unimpressed with the restaurants in DHS overall. Supposedly there is a pretty good Italian place there, but I haven't tried it. If you want a good restaurant, you'll need to drive into Palm Springs. We get a room with a kitchen, and make a lot of our own meals. There are grocery stores a short drive away.
The guests are mostly couples, 30's to 50's, quiet intelligent sorts. Jeff has pretty good radar for swingers and sociopaths, and does a good job of keeping them out. Alcohol is certainly permitted, but I've never seen anyone drunk and obnoxious. The conversations in the hot tub are generally on a somewhat loftier plane than you might expect at, say, Hedonism.
Jeff and Judy both do massage. They're not cheap, but they're well worth it in my opinion.
In sum, LWS is a great place to go hide for a few days to relax and recharge. Let me know if you decide to visit in October, and maybe we could meet you there. After all, what good is a surgeon without an anesthesiologist?
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Ace
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 Posted - 10/19/2006 : 09:24:42 AM
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Have to agree with Doc, nice place!
WOW! Just had a great visit here last week with my wife. What a nice place hosts Jeff and Judy have created here after only three years of ownership, with some nice plans for expanding in the future. We were actually lucky to have the whole place to ourselves; Jeff and Judy were able to join us for afternoon snacks and we all had a great conversation in the spa. The mineral water in the spa was great and the layout of this motel for sunning with a great view is another huge plus. If you like "retro" style you really must make a visit here. They really have attention for detail as the entire spa is spotless.
"Stay Cool & Hang Loose"
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 10/19/2006 : 3:24:00 PM
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My husband and I have been to Living Waters several times. Although we enjoyed the faclities the crowds seemed a little too "new age" for us the times we went. Much talk of higher power and religion sort of stuff..which we REALLY ARE NOT INTO AT ALL. Nudism to us anyway is not so deep. Its not spiritual nor is it some sort of religion. We simply hate wearing clothes. It is primarily about comfort and for my daughters a lot of it is about working on their tans!! But people choose to live this way for many different reasons and as long as we all like to be naked,doesnt matter to me the root of it.:)
Jenn
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FireProf
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Posted - 10/19/2006 : 4:39:45 PM
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The Prof and I took the Doc's recommendation and visited LWS for the day several months ago. We met another couple from another website that we had become good friends with.
We were having a great time. Some family matters kept us close to the cell phone. The owners had said that they do not allow cell phone useage unless you use it in the game room with the door closed. They wanted to keep a atmosphere free of these types of intrusions and that the Inn was a quiet, place for relaxation and reflextion.
During this quiet day of relaxation and reflextion, the male owner and a male relative were busy taping and painting a large portion of the INN. They were actually making quite a bit of noise and talking quite loud, scraping, mixing, using the air compressor to spray paint this area. It didn't matter to us and since we were the only ones there that day, we figured all bets and rules were put aside..............wrong! We got a phone call we needed to answer, the Prof answered the phone and immediately, both owners gave her a nasty look and said...."we don't allow cell phones unless you're in this room, please go in there to use the phone.
Later that evening while enjoying afternoon refreshments in the spa with our friends and the owners, the conversation turned to nudism, naturism. My wife usually doesn't say too much but felt comfortable enough to join in the conversation but was then somewhat chastised by the male owner for using the terms, nudist/naturist. He went off on a tangent about labels, which then led to religion and then his whole life story. He knew he had stepped on some toes and those were the toes of the only 4 guests he had all day.
He later apologized but the damage was done and the Prof hasn't really been willing to return. I think if we are going to meet another couple there, she wouldn't mind but probably won't go back alone if she has a choice of Terra Cotta or Desert Shadows.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 10/19/2006 : 5:09:25 PM
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Well said. Your experience sounds similiar to mine and my husbands. Its not that we had a horrible time or anything. Its just that we have had much better times at Terra Cotta and Desert Shadows. When we were there.. all three times the place was practically deserted. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that Desert Shadows,a much more up-scale resort is literally right down the street. Some of it may also have to do with the fact that other couples have had similiar experiences with the owners. As it is a small intimate resort, you really cant go there without having a lot of contact with the owners. One of the major turn offs of Living Waters is they DO NOT ALLOW same sex couples. This sort of discrimination is not the sort of thing my husband and I care to be around. The owners are sort of eccentric, NOT in a good way, and have some strange views, which they are not shy about sharing with "all 4" of there guests on any given day! These have been our experiences so take this advice for what its worth.
Jenn
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Ace
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Posted - 10/20/2006 : 09:08:12 AM
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HHHmmmm, surprised to hear the last couple of comments, we didn't have that kind of contact at all. Can relate to FireProfs input about Terra Cotta thus far though. Planned on a day visit last week when car trouble struck, by the time we got there it was late in the afternoon. The new girl working the desk gave the wife and I the nickle tour and invited us to stay for the next couple of hours of daylight on the house if we wished. Going to try and get back by there next week hopefully this time without incident...
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 10/20/2006 : 2:31:02 PM
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Terra Cotta is nice. Havent been there in a while, but last time we went was great! I still think Desert Shadows has got the market cornered on Palm Springs nude resorts. Although they are a little pricy.
Jenn
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 10/20/2006 : 7:25:00 PM
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I must say that in our 5 visits to LWS, we have never gotten the sort of vibe that Andy and Jenn seemed to experience. Yes, Jeff and Judy are religious people (and I'm not particularly), but it's never been a topic of conversation unless maybe I brought it up. And my dealings with them have always been quite friendly, unlike what I experienced with some of the personnel at Desert Shadows. Lastly, Jenn is flat-out wrong regarding LWS' policy toward same-sex couples. (Feel free to inquire if you don't believe me.) It's odd that she should make such a comment, since from what I've heard, and correct me if I'm wrong, Terra Cotta isn't too receptive to single men or gay couples. It also strikes me as a little funny to read a nudist complaining about peoples' "strange views", since most folks would consider our views pretty strange from the get-go.
Different strokes, I guess. LWS is, in philosphy and design, a very different place from Desert Shadows, which in turn is different from Terra Cotta. I'm glad they're all there to provide a variety of C/O experiences. Peace.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 10/24/2006 : 2:04:13 PM
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As far as Living Waters not accepting same sex couples, I have a first ahnd account of a female-female couple from my club being denied access. So thats what I based that on. Why then did this gay couple get denied access then? Anyway thats neither here nor there. And Terra cotta has changed their policy regarding same sex couple last time I checked. In reference to " a nudist complaining about peoples strange views"..I have been a nudist my entire life,born and raised. So many people think all nudists are eccentric or spiritual. I am NOT AT ALL,nor is my husband also a born and raised nudist. Neither are my parents or his parents opr our daughters. I like nudism for purely superficial reasons as does my family. So I get tired of peole assuming just because I am a nudist I enjoy discussions that are of that nature. I do agree naturistdoc, that there are different resorts that provide a different "flavor" for all tastes, and I too am happy for that. Just posting here about OUR experiences. You know, different people can see the same thing in totally different ways.
Jenn
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