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| NorthEastUSA |
Posted - 08/08/2008 : 09:19:10 AM
I have a question regarding AANR. Why do My wife and I need to be members to stay at certain Nudist resorts? As I have Mentioned we have never been to a land based nudist resort but we have been to nude beaches many times over the years. We wanted to try a nudist resort near our home and found out that a AANR membership is required. We are a 34 year old couple with young kids. We are on a tight budget. I understand that the AANR is good for nudism but if I don't have the extra money to support that organization I wont be allowed into certain resorts? I don't see the logic behind it. I cant imagine the nudist resort doesn't want the business. I would imagine its not a huge money maker. Then again I don't understand why people Shop at stores that make you pay a fee to join so you can go there and spend money?(Sams Club/Cost-co and the like)
What is the basic thought behind this practice of requiring AANR memberships. I'm sure they have a good reason that I'm just not thinking of. Can some one enlighten me on this subject... |
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| sailawaybob |
Posted - 02/11/2014 : 7:11:03 PM
i bailed from AANR shortly after they dropped the ASA name pretty much just a expensive newspaper to me, i did join TNS for many years but really can anyone see much difference from nude recreation over the years other than maybe Haulover Beach who i think has a great organization. not sure about other nude beach and their organization. |
| Warmskin |
Posted - 02/07/2014 : 04:21:38 AM
Sigh, I guess we men are just pure evil. 
Any organized group of people are going to have disagreements. Goes on all the time across the spectrum of organizations, because all types of them are run by people with differing opinions.
That even goes on in families, too.
I do hope AANR's main efforts are geared towards promoting and defending nudism, as well as helping keep nudism wholesome, and not just playing musical chairs with people in power. I trust the former is prevalent.
I guess I look upon AANR and TNS as establishment outfits, while NAC is more of a gut-fighter group. Here is one analogy, if I might -- the AANR can be likened to the GOP, and the NAC is more like the Tea Party. One is the well established group with conventional connections, while the NAC is more hard pressing when it comes to conflict.
I may be very wrong about the last paragraph, and if so, my apologies are offered. It is just my intuitive powers at work, and we all know what men's intuition is like --defunct
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“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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| gnarlyoldman |
Posted - 01/12/2014 : 6:12:00 PM
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Even though much of the nudist subculture (this site, for instance) is male-dominated, 13 of the 15 AANR employees are women.
Yes. AANR has discriminated against men for decades. No surprise that their employment situation reflects their overall prejudices.
Naked is green. |
| NaturistDoc |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 6:22:24 PM
In the latest (Jan '14) AANR Bulletin, Susan Weaver addresses (sorta) the issues that FireProf mentioned that are causing some dissension among the leadership. I can't help wondering if there's something more going on.
A far more positive note is sounded on page 6 of the same issue, Even though much of the nudist subculture (this site, for instance) is male-dominated, 13 of the 15 AANR employees are women. |
| FireProf |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 5:24:20 PM
MrsAZLagoon is correct! Our club is a AANR 100% club; it requires that you be an AANR member to become a member of the club but you do not have to be an AANR member to take a tour and visit. After 3 visits, you can join but ... you must also join AANR as part of the club membership.
I also agree ... being a member of either organization gives you a bit more credibility than others that are not. It shows that you're willing to be a member of the organization that works for nudists/naturists in many ways. It may not work entirely or at all for what each individual nudist/naturist wants but as a whole, they do quite a bit in the support, lobby and advocacy areas for our lifestyle.
We are also members of AANR, TNS, NAC. We belong to a landed club, Glen Eden and we also belong to two non landed clubs; Naturist Family Network and Friends of San Onofre Beach. We've recently joined the Black's Beach Bares, another beach group down here.
Some of these orgs can irritate you with what they are doing or not doing and they have certainly done that to us but we continue to renew our memberships, send in donations when we can and do what we can by writing letters when they ask us to do so. Most times it helps, sometimes it does not ... it's better than doing nothing and I don't care much for those that continue to want the benefits but do nothing to contribute to those fighting for those benefits.
Loves being naked. Plays well with others! |
| Daretobare |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 4:12:57 PM
I agree with the Mrs. If nothing else your money you spend to join an organization goes to support not only a club but to support the lobby to fight for the right. I belong to snowmobile clubs and motorcycle clubs, both local, state and nationally. Why? To support what I believe in. Odd thing is I no longer own a sled or bike anymore but I still believe in their cause. Same with ANNR and others. If I can walk a beach once a year without clothes than I know my dollars help support that and made it possible. On the other hand if an organization is supporting their club only and not doing their job. I'm out of there. |
| MrsAzLagoon |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 1:49:07 PM
AANR membership is NOT required to go to nudist resort/clubs/destinations, that I am aware of. Membership in AANR supports the advocacy efforts they put forth to try and minimize the negative assault on nudist rights.
For clubs and resorts, AANR membership is a bit of a "qualifier" for guests. If someone has gone to the expense and trouble to join AANR, TNS or other naturist organizations, it does give a comfort level that they are actually nudists...or are serious about the lifestyle. Checking in to a hotel is different than checking in at a nudist club or resort. For the sake of their guests and members, thank goodness the clubs and resorts actually CARE about who is using their facilities and try to maintain some level of control!
As operators of a nudist business, I can tell you...as much as we would like to think differently, there are some out there who have a different view of nudity than you and I do. And those folks have a different motivation for being around "nekkid people".
Although we don't NEED it, we belong to AANR, TNS, FCN and BN. Not for the "benefits" but to support those organizations who are working to preserve our rights as nudists.
Enjoy the sunshine!
MrsAZLagoon-AKA C-OHome
www.ClothingOptionalHomeNetwork.com |
| gnarlyoldman |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 12:18:58 PM
I've never been to a golf course that required a PGA membership to play the course. I've never been to a Best Western Hotel that required a membership in the Hotel Management Association to rent a room. One has to wonder if nudist resorts are running a public resort or a private limited club. The business model would probably work a lot better if they ran a public resort.
Sometimes when I go to a hotel I ask for an AARP discount, but they never check my card. Nudist resorts could do the same with AANR.
Naked is green. |
| nudesunguy |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 11:15:01 AM
I agree. I feel the AANR is sort of a relic from the past. It needs to be more progressive and proactive. The OP's situation is a good example: 30-somethings with children are exactly the demographic nudism needs. I don't think any AANR club should require membership just to check the place out. How about 3 visits, and then require joining? And how about a sliding scale for memebership? 20-something students should pay practically nothing; older folks who have more income pay more? It's great to have nudist organizations (we belong to TNS), but they need to keep up with the times and address dwindling membership. Just some thoughts...
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| FireProf |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 02:10:31 AM
There was a petition circulating that opposed a Proposition to be placed on the upcoming ballot for the membership to vote on. Not exactly sure what it's all about and when asked ... those with the answers seem to prefer to keep quiet about it.
At any rate, the Board caught wind of the petition and with many prominent nudists signing this petition, it seems the board voted against what the "Planning Committee" had worked on with regards to these changes and now the President and the Board are at odds.
Ironically ... "I" feel that AANR is at odds with it's entire membership. If we don't get someone in the leadership position that has some progressive thinking and ideas ... AANR could lose so much of it's membership base that the org could fold in the not too distant future.
I'll try and do some more research and get back to you on specifics.
FP
Loves being naked. Plays well with others! |
| NaturistDoc |
Posted - 01/10/2014 : 01:23:14 AM
Apparently there is some turmoil in the AANR leadership, with the President seemingly at odds with the Board of Trustees. What's going on? |
| spadoc |
Posted - 08/11/2008 : 12:00:41 PM
Hi Folks,
While it is not absolutely necessary to join AANR, you should at least join ONE of the two national organizations, either AANR or TNS. I couldn't put it any better than Cheri has in her previous post(s). If we want to be taken seriously by the various people who make the laws, and those who subsequently enforce these laws, we have to show that there are enough of us to make a difference. By joining a national organization, we can do that. If AANR isn't your particular cup of tea, then join TNS. If you can, join both. I am a member of TNS as well as AANR as is Cheri. If the future of social nudism is at all important to you, then please STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. Contact AANR or TNS directly, or through a club such as the Travelites. Thanks.
Walt Iliff
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| turtlendragonfly |
Posted - 08/10/2008 : 4:58:42 PM
i would have to agree with calbob. we are not AANR members, and have just introduced another couple to nudism. we would like to visit there with our friends, but they are not ready to join AANR yet, nor are we. and this club in question is the closest to our house!!
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| Calbob |
Posted - 08/10/2008 : 3:51:38 PM
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There is at least one Eastern region landed club that requires AANR membership on the first visit. There may be others around the US.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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http://pages.prodigy/cheridonna
I know you're right about that, Cheri, but it seems that by only welcoming AANR members even for a first visit, a club isn't helping to bring new people into organized nudism.
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| Cheri |
Posted - 08/09/2008 : 1:30:52 PM
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Originally posted by Calbob
It's very unusual for a landed club to require an AANR membership before allowing you to visit for the first time. Most will give you a tour, interview you and make a copy of your drivers license. Then, if you want to visit regularly, they may require club membership which includes the AANR membership. An AANR card not only gives you a discount when you visit other clubs, but validates the fact that you are a sincere nudist.
There is at least one Eastern region landed club that requires AANR membership on the first visit. There may be others around the US.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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http://pages.prodigy/cheridonna
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