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Posted - 04/07/2004 : 11:41:49 PM From Glode and Mail.comWednesday - April 7, 2004 Alanis looked nude, Janet was naked By WARREN CLEMENTS
Since singer Alanis Morissette's body suit at the Juno Awards Sunday night was designed to make her look nude, should it have been spelled bawdy suit?
And what's the difference between nude and naked anyway? Why was Quentin Crisp (as his book title had it) The Naked Civil Servant rather than the nude one? Why is a nude beach not a naked beach? After Justin Timberlake exposed Janet Jackson's breast at the Super Bowl on Feb. 1, writers in this newspaper described it in two articles as a naked breast and in one as a nude breast. However, they preferred the expression "exposed breast," which appeared in five articles, and were so taken with Timberlake's desperate euphemism for ripping off Jackson's breastplate and brassiere -- "wardrobe malfunction" -- that they used it 11 times.
In a 2001 column, I noted that naked derives from the prehistoric Germanic naquethas and nude from the Latin nudus, but that both originated in the Indo-European nogw, unclothed. If there is a distinction, it may lie in the sound (nude is softer, naked has an aggressive k) or in the words' associations. The expression "in the nude" is coy, suggesting that a choice has been made to doff one's clothing. That's a far cry from the way we come into the world -- naked. The stage play has a nude scene; very civilized. We speak the naked truth; very harsh. When being unclad is natural, it's nudism; when it's startling, it's bare-naked. In the financial world, a naked option is one not backed up by its related stock. William and Mary Morris wrote that, while the words nude and naked are synonymous, "nude has the edge in gentility and is more likely to appear in polite publications than naked."
Hugh Rawson spoke to this point in his book A Dictionary of Euphemisms and Doubletalk. "A woman may pose for an artist in the 'nude,' but if she is seen minus her clothes by a Peeping Tom, then she is 'naked.' And if, as happened once in an art class I attended, the unauthorized viewing is done during the posing, then the model is simultaneously 'nude' and 'naked.' In this instance, the model immediately grasped the semantic point as well as her robe, and would not resume her pose until the cops had been called and the peeper chased away."
In comparing ourselves with other animals, we prefer the hard sound of naked: naked as a jaybird. When Desmond Morris placed humans with the rest of the kingdom in 1967, he called his book The Naked Ape, not the nude ape. But the animal kingdom does have nudibranches, which are marine gastropods that don't have shells, and nudicaudate creatures, which have no hair on their tails.
Coincidentally, the Anglo-Saxon word for tail in the 1200s was steort, later spelled start. A person who was starkers right down to the tail was known as start naked, until the expression evolved into stark naked. When Morissette opts for the modest option of a body suit, that may qualify as star naked.
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sailawaybob |
Posted - 04/22/2012 : 12:01:01 AM nude is being comfortable in your skin, naked is when a neighbor see you through the window or in the backyard and is not comfortable with your skin. |
Warmskin |
Posted - 04/20/2012 : 7:14:54 PM To me, nudity is voluntary, and is desired by the person being without clothing.
Nakedness is a state of profound, involuntary vulnerability, because of lack of clothing. .
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.” Ben Franklin
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Posted - 04/17/2012 : 4:05:09 PM Naked=1.being without clothing or covering; nude: naked children swimming in the lake.
2. without adequate clothing: a naked little beggar.
3. bare of any covering, overlying matter, vegetation, foliage, or the like: naked fields.
4. bare, stripped, or destitute (usually followed by of ): The trees were suddenly naked of leaves.
5. without the customary covering, container, or protection: a naked sword; a naked flame. Nude=
naked or unclothed, as a person or the body.
2. without the usual coverings, furnishings, etc.; bare: a nude stretch of land laid waste by brush fires.
3. (of a photograph, painting, statue, etc.) being or prominently displaying a representation of the nude human figure.
4. Law . made without a consideration or other legal essential: a nude contract.
5. having the color nude.
noun 6. a sculpture, painting, etc., of a nude human figure.
7. an unclothed human figure.
8. the condition of being unclothed: to sleep in the nude.
9. a light grayish-yellow brown to brownish-pink color. |
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Posted - 03/21/2008 : 09:04:53 AM The words nude and naked are defined meaning without clothes (uncovered),i would say not much of a difference really. Nudist one who believes in the value of nakedness for health.In other words one can be nude/naked enjoying life naturally however they call it they'd be nude/naked.Its their choice.
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sketcher |
Posted - 03/20/2008 : 3:43:01 PM For me "naked" is the word "nude" with a chuckle applied to it, as in; Surf Naked, Ski Naked and what we have embroidered on our towels, "Get Naked." There is no shame in any of it. |
Diger |
Posted - 02/04/2008 : 5:54:54 PM I agree with the term "Nude is not Lewd" however naked can imply some form of shame.
Diger |
Phydeau |
Posted - 02/04/2008 : 3:37:14 PM I'm constantly relating things to art when I come here (in my art life, there's always a debate somewhere between what is art and what is pornography).
Anyway, I've seen a lot of artistic nudes, but I have yet to see any artistic "nakeds". |
HappyDaz |
Posted - 02/04/2008 : 10:12:26 AM Personally, I consider the word 'naked' a textile term. There seems to be a vulgar connotation to it. Nude seems (to me) a much healthier and respectful way of expressing the absence of clothes. |
Nudony |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 12:42:40 AM "Naked" is definitely a state of mind as opposed to a state of undress. I was once invited by a friend to come spend the day with her at her pool. As she was aware of my nudist inclinations, she proposed that that I go nude if I so desired. I accepted and stripped down; but I quickly became aware that she was a bit taken aback by the site of my actual nudity. As she kept blushing and looking away, I became very much aware of my nudity and her inner turmoil with it. At that moment, I felt naked. You could say that it was her reaction to my nudity that triggered a sense of vulnerability and nakedness. |
MarylandNudist |
Posted - 02/04/2007 : 3:44:06 PM So then, if I don't feel uncomfortable being nude in any situation, does that mean I'm never naked?
If we were meant to be naked, we would have been born that way. |
jim19452 |
Posted - 04/28/2006 : 5:57:07 PM quote: Originally posted by Kimberly
David I guess if I was really bad I could be a nakedest eh?
Kim =^.^=
Yes, I think so you nakedest woman. I also agree with the comfortable vs. uncomfortable argument of nude vs. naked.
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JustJim |
Posted - 04/28/2006 : 3:54:28 PM This is an interesting question and can certainly be open to anyone's interpretation without any finality being reached. However, one "thread" I see often mentioned by others in respect to nude versus naked is the degree of "comfort" one feels...generally nude is comfortable, naked is vulnerable and/or embarrassing to some degree. Oddly enough I experienced some of that at a nudist facility simply by a subtle change in my surroundings. At the pool among 200 other nude people I was comfortable nude and unconcerned. Later when I wandered back up to the office to ask a question of the administration, I was nude in the office at the same moment an entirely clothed family of 4 came in to register for their "first ever" nudist facility visit. It was obvious by the look on their face (even though they were attempting to be very casual) that they didn't expect nudity THERE... and therefore I felt "naked" for the few moments I was among 4 clothed invidividuals who weren't accustomed to nudity. Even though the office staff is also nude, they were behind a relatively high counter and not quite as exposed as I was in the middle of the open office area. So..perhaps it IS a matter of "comfort vs discomfort" when trying to determine nude from naked... it seemed so to me.
JustJim |
later |
Posted - 05/03/2005 : 12:57:24 PM I see all of this as labeling. If your nude aren't you also naked? If your a nudist and you step outside aren't you also a naturist? Nude, nudist, naturist are all more pleasing sounding then I'm naked, buck naked etc..It still all comes down to sans clothing. If your reading this, and your naked, well I'm nude, and good for both of us. I think as naked, nude people, there are more important things to debate then what we want to call our selfs. I perfer bare butt enthusiast! |
Kimberly |
Posted - 04/16/2004 : 04:51:25 AM David I guess if I was really bad I could be a nakedest eh?
Kim =^.^= |
The Bead Man |
Posted - 04/15/2004 : 5:50:21 PM Moonerisms?
Cheers!
David "The Bead Man" www.thebeadman.net
The Bead Artist formerly known as Revilo42 |
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