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Posted - 07/23/2002 : 5:49:00 PM
Some would say Adam and Eve were natural nudists, until they met the first clothing salesman in the Garden of Eden. What do you think? Click Reply To Topic to post your comments.
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| nude charles |
Posted - 08/17/2011 : 8:24:40 PM
To slick; in my experience very few offer Sunday service on the grounds. At Whispering Pines resort in NC, a minister comes every Sunday on his motorcycle. They have a small chapel; people sing; have a homily of sorts; probably no more than half hour. Also, there used to be a Christian nudist resort in NH. I don't know if it still exists. |
| Warmskin |
Posted - 08/16/2011 : 05:00:36 AM
I find great harmony between religion and nudism, otherwise I would not be a nudist. Generally, I like harmony, period, in my life. That may not be true of every religion, but people in the other ones can speak for themselves.
What would an organic Christian like better, an immoral, hateful person who always wears clothes, or a humble, virtuous, and humane nudist? For some, that presents a huge conflict within him/herself.
How could it be that someone would prefer the immoral clothed person? Seems to go against the grain. There is enough of Jesus' teachings that bore out the superior position of the humble person who is a nudist. Inner values are always more important than external affectations. Thus they bear spiritual significance.
I would think that there are fewer people who commit crimes in the nude contrasted to those who are clothed.
So, we find out that clothing is not a moral thing, but more a material thing. Goods are not a provider of a good heart.
Yes, Jesus did say to spread the seeds of his word, but also said that if people reject the word, for his people to shake the dust off their feet and go elsewhere. This implies complete freedom on behalf of the person who is approached. They can simply reject the word and move on. Also, they can listen and see the merits of Christianity that is presented in a rational and intelligent way.
It relates to the parable of the seeds being planted in different types of ground. The fertile soil will make the seed grow and make it fruitful. Other types of soil will cause the seed to die. So, we already have a known result to some degree, and thus there is no reason to try to hogtie someone and prosletyze him/here with militancy. No need for it at all.
Just my two cents worth.
"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his (and her) conduct."
Thomas Jefferson |
| slick214 |
Posted - 08/15/2011 : 11:41:54 AM
I am curious about the question of all of you who attend C/O and nude resorts, "how many of the resorts you attend offer a Sunday morning worship service?" |
| Tuffers |
Posted - 07/10/2008 : 1:43:16 PM
My joy would be that you give it a rest!!!
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| VLM34 |
Posted - 07/06/2008 : 12:25:58 PM
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Originally posted by catbird
[quote]Being that I have felt close to God while naked, I feel compelled to share that; however not when somebody isn't interested. Saying "not interested" should turn off the proselytizer.
I understand that you 'feel compelled' to share what interests you. I'm not sure you undersand that others also feel equally compelled to share what interests them.
If you share your joys with others until they are forced to say 'Not interested' you're giving license to swingers, salicious gawkers, purveyors of religions you regard as false, and many others to share their joys with you and everyone else until told 'Not interested.'
Most people go to nudist places to relax, to escape the pressures and sell-sell-sell of everyday life.
Don't you think everyone - including you - should exercise self-restraint at nudist places?
Your joys are not necessarily others' joys. In fact, your chief joy may be others' chief dislike.
Is self-restraint too much to ask? |
| VLM34 |
Posted - 07/06/2008 : 12:01:10 PM
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Originally posted by catbird
[quote][i] I don't agree that religion is to be as private as sex.
Which religion? Yours or those you find abominable?
Do you understand that many others find your religion abominable? |
| catbird |
Posted - 06/29/2008 : 3:20:35 PM
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Originally posted by Diger
VLM34,
Jesus Christ called for his believers to go spread his gospel to the world.
I'm sorry your offended but that's what Cristians are called to do and this thread is about the relation between Religion and Naturizm.
Diger
I don't agree that religion is to be as private as sex. But I do agree that the Bible is neither for or against naturism.
That Jesus Christ called for his believers to go spread his gospel to the world -- that is equally applicable to both the textile world and the naturist world. It is more appropriate in the textile world.
Being that I have felt close to God while naked, I feel compelled to share that; however not when somebody isn't interested. Saying "not interested" should turn off the proselytizer.
If the proselytizer persists, walk away from him. In case of persistence, I think he has the sin of self-righteousness. I myself don't like persistence.
Naturally, Catbird |
| Tuffers |
Posted - 06/27/2008 : 10:18:09 AM
I am with Cheri on ths one and in particular to the second para of her reply of 26/06/08 (sorry folks, I am English so I quote the day before the month). I also am of the Jewish faith and our religion does not force its theology and its laws upon anyone or looks actively for converts. We live our lives, hopefully in a decent way and respect all other religions. Some of us enjoy the lifestyle of nudism/ naturism and that is between us as individuals and the Eternal One.
Nobody has the right to force religion down another's throat which seems to happen far too often amongst certain factions, but most certainly not all of the Christian religion. |
| VLM34 |
Posted - 06/27/2008 : 02:48:53 AM
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Originally posted by Cheri
VLM, Do you have any problem with an announced religious service at a nudist venue .... Those who wanted could attend, others were invited, no one was forced.
1. If the invitation is on a bulletin board, no problem at all. If individials are personally urged to attend, I would regard that as intrusive.
2. If the service is held in a private place, such that those who aren't interested (or who disapprove) can't see or hear, I see no problem at all.
Cheri, as I said before, religious activity is just like sexual activity. There's no reason to object as long as invitations aren't pushy and the activity itself is kept out of sight. |
| Cheri |
Posted - 06/26/2008 : 4:57:35 PM
VLM, Do you have any problem with an announced religious service at a nudist venue such as when Travelites hosted a Passover seder. Those who wanted could attend, others were invited, no one was forced. There are some nudist parks that offer a Sunday morning worship service. You can attend or not.
I happened to be a nudist as I live my life as well as a Jewish individual, but my religion is something private, between me and God.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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http://pages.prodigy/cheridonna
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| VLM34 |
Posted - 06/26/2008 : 1:32:12 PM
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Originally posted by old hippie
Digger, I think VLM's original point was that there is no connection between nudism and religion.
Correct, they're orthogonal.
However, I've tried to make another point: We all know there's a highly divisive culture war going on in the United States, and we all know what the bones of contention are. It's a very long list.
If nudism is ever to thrive, nudists must not let themselves be split asunder. To achieve that, the culture warriors among us need to cool it at nudist places and cool it with other nudists no matter the location.
That's not to say that contentious topics are off limits, but they should be broached and elabortated upon only with great caution.
It is to say that we should all drop a contentious topic at the first sign of disinterest.
Why can't we all resolve to get along? |
| old hippie |
Posted - 06/26/2008 : 01:58:41 AM
Digger, I think VLM's original point was that there is no connection between nudism and religion.
. One could make the case also that one does not prevent the other. While we ought not use religion (of any stripe) to defend or support naturism, neither can we use religion to disclaim naturism. Likewise, we cannot use naturism to disclaim religion. Since, as VLM posits, the one is not connected to the other, we ought nt expect any more (nor less) opportunity for prosletyzing among naturists than among textiles.
Neither do I expect stamp collectors to preach to me or not to preach to me.
Philately yours,
the Ol' Hippie
Dum vivimus, vivamus! |
| Diger |
Posted - 06/23/2008 : 09:10:09 AM
VLM34,
I have always welcomed someone shareing there beliefs back with me, all we are called to do is plant a seed and the Holy Spirit will do his work. I can not save a person all I can do is share the good news.
If you won 20 million in the lottery, I think you would be on the phone telling friends and family the good news. Christians are just sharing their good news, but the bible says you will think it's foolishness. Thats why it takes the drawing of the Holy Spirit and a step of faith on your part.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Diger |
| VLM34 |
Posted - 06/23/2008 : 06:40:35 AM
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Originally posted by Diger
VLM34,
I agree I don't like solocitations myself. One thing I have always done is make friends with people first, then tell them what Jesus has done for me.
Ah, the stealth technique.
How do you react when your new friend takes advantage of your friendship to tell you what swinging (or Islam or Scientology or Satanism) has done for him?
I have the feeling that we're not making progress here. Why am I not surprised? |
| Diger |
Posted - 06/22/2008 : 8:46:21 PM
VLM34,
I agree I don't like solocitations myself. One thing I have always done is make friends with people first, then tell them what Jesus has done for me.
Some Christians will beat you over the head with there bible, but thats not what Jesus calls us to do. I will venture to say you won't find that kind of Christian in a Nudist Venue, they are more loving and openminded.
Diger |
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