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lookatme Posted - 11/21/2011 : 04:18:39 AM
Hi.

I'm pretty much new here. So please, if anyone feels offended because of what I will say, don't get mad at me.

If I got it right last time I discussed the subject here, I have some issues with what's generally accepted and what isn't.

I mean, if there were rules to change, I would change them to:

Every nudist has a right to:

Try to attract attention to their nude bodies in a sexual way.

Feel openly (i.e. not being expected to save their thoughts for themselves) attracted to another nudist's body even if said nudist is not trying to get such attention.

Sexual attraction for a nude person that one does indeed see as attractive, is assumed to be natural and unavoidable and therefore displays of such attraction or the attraction itself are not disencouraged.

Let the brainstorm begin
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nudesunguy Posted - 12/07/2011 : 11:00:04 AM
Next time you're at a nude beach/resort, try sticking a hardon in some woman's face (I think that's what you're trying to say should be acceptable), and report back on how that works out for you...

If you are NOT saying that, what are you saying? It's perfectly acceptable to tell a woman she's attractive at a beach or resort. Just do it in a mature way, i.e., "Wow, you look great! etc. Unacceptable would be "Man, those tits are HUGE and make me horny...LOOK!"

Anyway, with a name like "lookatme" I suspect you're more interested in exhibitionism than nudity, that's fine, just don't confuse the two.

lookatme Posted - 12/05/2011 : 04:08:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Warmskin

The following color codes are thus:

Dark lettering = Lookatme
Light blue lettering = Me
Red lettering is me quoting Lookatme.

I should say that this is the last multi-faceted message I'll put on this thread - gets too confusing.


I think that if I'd find attractive a woman in a clothed environment, then in a nude one, it'd be much more likely to find her attractive for obvious reasons.

Just exactly how do you plan to do to try to attract attention to yourself, sexually? You said, "Try to attract attention to their nude bodies in a sexual way." That leaves the reader full of possiblilities of how you are going to attract attention to yourself, sexually. Maybe you would like describe with exactitude how you would do this. . OK, I stand corrected. You know, it'd be quite weird to try to get attention. If someone is sexy, he/she will still get attention. But that last part should be not disencouraged.

It's not about trying to get attention. But why can't I simply let a nude woman know I find her physically attractive? But again, you said, "Try to attract attention to their nude bodies in a sexual way." I agree with another post on this forum that your words are inconsistent. TRYING to get attention and GETTING IT even if you didn't actually try to are quite different things...



If you are very sexy, you won't have to lift a finger to show it. If you are not sexy, trying to assume a sexy pose will make you a laughing stock. That's obvious. I'm relieved to hear that you agree to at least that extent.

But even if I find someone physically attractive, I may not have sex in mind. That's it. Again, you stated, "Try to attract attention to their nude bodies in a sexual way." Should I now disbelieve your original post? Again, I stand corrected.

You might be happier at a swinger resort, Lookatme. I'm not insulting you by saying that. It's just that you would enjoy yourself there more than you would at a traditional nudist resort. To me, swinger means partner swapping. I'd be neither looking for sex nor such swapping. I'd be just looking for a nude public environment where I can enjoy being nude with other nude people, just like in a nude beach, but not expected at all to hide my attraction feelings.But, you original post seemed to have noticeable sexual content. You're right here.

There is nothing sexy about a nudist resort. If you're trying to attract attention to yourself in a sexual way, a swinger resort is your only choice. You don't have to swap wives, as far as I know. It is sexual, though, and the sexual atmosphere that you wanted is found at swinger resorts, and not at traditional resorts.

I really think you should revisit your original thesis and revise it considerably. Either you want sexuality or you don't, and your first post has definite sexual content which is not congruent with the realities of a nudist resort. I understand that you are inquiring about how things could be different, which is fine, but know what you want out of nusidm first. To be honest, I'm still not quite sure in every way what I want out of nudism, but I know that the majority of nudists usually prevail as to what the expectations are of nudism.

[b]I'm not the only one here who is not following your train of thought. Perhaps if you restated your thoughts, we could assess them better for you. It might help.



“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin


Warmskin Posted - 12/03/2011 : 9:50:19 PM
The following color codes are thus:

Dark lettering = Lookatme
Light blue lettering = Me
Red lettering is me quoting Lookatme.

I should say that this is the last multi-faceted message I'll put on this thread - gets too confusing.


I think that if I'd find attractive a woman in a clothed environment, then in a nude one, it'd be much more likely to find her attractive for obvious reasons.

Just exactly how do you plan to do to try to attract attention to yourself, sexually? You said, "Try to attract attention to their nude bodies in a sexual way." That leaves the reader full of possiblilities of how you are going to attract attention to yourself, sexually. Maybe you would like describe with exactitude how you would do this. .

It's not about trying to get attention. But why can't I simply let a nude woman know I find her physically attractive? But again, you said, "Try to attract attention to their nude bodies in a sexual way." I agree with another post on this forum that your words are inconsistent.

If you are very sexy, you won't have to lift a finger to show it. If you are not sexy, trying to assume a sexy pose will make you a laughing stock. That's obvious. I'm relieved to hear that you agree to at least that extent.

But even if I find someone physically attractive, I may not have sex in mind. That's it. Again, you stated, "Try to attract attention to their nude bodies in a sexual way." Should I now disbelieve your original post?

You might be happier at a swinger resort, Lookatme. I'm not insulting you by saying that. It's just that you would enjoy yourself there more than you would at a traditional nudist resort. To me, swinger means partner swapping. I'd be neither looking for sex nor such swapping. I'd be just looking for a nude public environment where I can enjoy being nude with other nude people, just like in a nude beach, but not expected at all to hide my attraction feelings.But, you original post seemed to have noticeable sexual content.

There is nothing sexy about a nudist resort. If you're trying to attract attention to yourself in a sexual way, a swinger resort is your only choice. You don't have to swap wives, as far as I know. It is sexual, though, and the sexual atmosphere that you wanted is found at swinger resorts, and not at traditional resorts.

I really think you should revisit your original thesis and revise it considerably. Either you want sexuality or you don't, and your first post has definite sexual content which is not congruent with the realities of a nudist resort. I understand that you are inquiring about how things could be different, which is fine, but know what you want out of nusidm first. To be honest, I'm still not quite sure in every way what I want out of nudism, but I know that the majority of nudists usually prevail as to what the expectations are of nudism.

[b]I'm not the only one here who is not following your train of thought. Perhaps if you restated your thoughts, we could assess them better for you. It might help.



“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
lookatme Posted - 12/03/2011 : 7:08:05 PM
I'm not a troll. It's just that I got into this forum to discuss this.
Diger Posted - 12/03/2011 : 12:15:58 PM
Lookarme,

What you will findout is your not going to have an errection just from see a naked female. When everyone is naked it's not a sexually charged atmosphere. Now if you stare and lust after the lady long enough you may get an errection but that gets into being a pervert again.

Even if it was as you said, and you got an errection, would it be fare to the the ladies for you to make them uneasy and maybe cause one of them to never go back after her husband spent years trying to get her to that point? I don't think so.

So many of the guys here complain that they can't get their wife's to go to a nude beach or resort with them. I know if you messed up some guys first trip to a nude beach with his wife you may not get out of their in one piece.

Now dude, show us you aren't a troll and post about someting other than errections. The count is 20 posts of nothing but Boners.





Diger
lookatme Posted - 12/03/2011 : 05:50:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Diger

One of the pervs I confronted was a guys parading around close by everyone sporting an errection. Now if you are behaving like this guys, Yes.

The intersting part of the story is it would have gone down on it's own even though he was wanting it to stay up. You see he would touch it every now and then to keep it up.

Lookatme, trust me when I tell you, your not going to get an errection just from seeing a naked woman unless you are looking to. You see, that looking to part, is what makes a perv.





Diger



Well, yeah, if he was really doing that, then that guy was clearly trying to bother the people there.

What I'm saying is just... Honestly, what if I or whatever guy who goes to a nude beach gets aroused (i.e. erection) simply from seeing a nude woman he indeed sees as attractive. Why keep harassing him asking to cover up his reaction to what he feels? Is it THAT bad? And most important, why should he keep those feelings private? Are they THAT bad? Is really any woman going to faint to death just because the sight of her nude body caused an erection or because a man honestly let her know he likes her body? Think.
sailawaybob Posted - 12/02/2011 : 11:33:07 PM
well bob you pose a interesting question when you think about it if you sit on the side of the pool or on a seat in the hot tub your butt is without a towel and i guess i have sat in a chair a few times without a towel but i do perfer a towel and at home i'm usually nude in my tv room (man cave) which is separate from the living room, here i have a blanket that i lay on and a separate blanket if i want to coverup and of course every couple days it gets washed. i guess at clubs it just good manners to sit on a towel.
Bob Knows Posted - 12/01/2011 : 10:30:46 AM
Changing the focus slightly.
One of the "generally accepted" standards I would like to change is the nonsense about always sitting on a towel. Earlier this morning I was looking through some photos on one of the Yahoo nudist groups, and in close to 100 photos of various nudists around home, NOBODY was sitting on a towel. At nudist groups and venues the "rules" require naked bodies to carry towels to sit on. I suspect that few, if any, naked at home people carry a towel around and sit on it most of the time. Perhaps it comes from a fear that even though "MY" behind is clean, "YOUR" behind is suspect or dirty. I don't sit on towels at home either. I wash. I go to a nudist event, spend an your in the hot tub, soaked head to foot, and when I get out I'm required to sit on a towel just because. Its one of the "generally accepted" rules that always irks me.
Warmskin Posted - 11/30/2011 : 11:06:23 PM
If I'm thinking about all this ahead of time, does that make me a pre-vert?

“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin

Diger Posted - 11/30/2011 : 10:56:15 PM
One of the pervs I confronted was a guys parading around close by everyone sporting an errection. Now if you are behaving like this guys, Yes.

The intersting part of the story is it would have gone down on it's own even though he was wanting it to stay up. You see he would touch it every now and then to keep it up.

Lookatme, trust me when I tell you, your not going to get an errection just from seeing a naked woman unless you are looking to. You see, that looking to part, is what makes a perv.





Diger
lookatme Posted - 11/30/2011 : 10:30:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Diger

That's the way life is Doc, it only takes a few jerks to ruin it for everyone. That's why we don't set by and let jerks turn our nude beaches and resorts into meat markets.

I personally have confronted a couple of pervs at Apollo Beach in years past. Does that make me an unfair person, I don't think so.





Diger



Are you implying that, by your standards, I'M A PERV?
sailawaybob Posted - 11/30/2011 : 8:49:24 PM
Bob Knows i think there is a line that some cross that isn't acceptable most nudist camps i have been a member of or visited had kids and when those are warned and don't take the warning they should be ban from the camp, there were numberous single males at the camp i belonged to and the majority had no problem. as for the females some had issues with to much alcohol at times and were also warned by management. and diger i agree apollo has had some problem with unwanted conduct m/m and m/f i usually stop and stare and they will stop maybe a better idea will take a picture maybe that will scare them.
NaturistDoc Posted - 11/30/2011 : 5:46:23 PM
Nope. More like an unsung hero, I'd say.
Diger Posted - 11/30/2011 : 4:04:29 PM
That's the way life is Doc, it only takes a few jerks to ruin it for everyone. That's why we don't set by and let jerks turn our nude beaches and resorts into meat markets.

I personally have confronted a couple of pervs at Apollo Beach in years past. Does that make me an unfair person, I don't think so.





Diger
rahel Posted - 11/30/2011 : 2:01:32 PM
I am enjoying swimming in the ocean "au naturel"

rahel

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