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thornapplebison
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Posted - 11/06/2008 : 10:46:12 PM
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Great rule-of-thumb, GrayWolf.
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Posted - 11/17/2008 : 4:00:54 PM
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Forgive me, but I find this discussion rather amusing. In a way, it sorta reminds me of the ongoing "discussions" I used to have with my teen daughters about the length of their skirts or the proper amount of midriff to bare.
I think most everyone here would agree that blatantly open sexual conduct in full view of everyone on a beach is inappropriate. No argument there ... but as is often the case, it's the gray areas that are cause for disagreement.
In a world filled with violence and all manner of hurtful activities of one human being against another, I do find it ironic that public shows of affection and love can be such a source of conflict. Personally, I'm a very physically demonstrative person. I hug and touch affectionately at the slightest provocation. I have never had a problem with this ... never had anyone ask me to refrain from touching their arm, or from hugging them in a perfectly platonic way, and I would hate to think that I would have to censor myself simply because I wasn't wearing clothes.
It seems to me that there are so many things that people can do in public that are much worse than displaying affection. I would certainly rather see people hugging than I would see them bickering or rudely playing loud music, for instance.
I guess I don't quite get the "spoil it for everyone" argument, either. Are you saying that the police would close a nude beach because somebody was kissing? And exactly who are the ones complaining? If they're other nudists, then they can't very well use that argument. If they're not, then what are they doing there? I'm probably missing something here, due to my inexperience with nude areas. Please update me if there are other factors I'm not getting.
I guess overall what I'm saying is that I find it incredulous to be offended by people loving each other, especially if it consists of something as innocuous as putting on lotion or whatever, even if it's onto "sensitive" body areas. It doesn't bother me to see couples kissing ... quite the contrary, I find it touching and sweet. Why can't people do unclothed what they can do clothed?
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Safebare
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 Posted - 11/17/2008 : 4:40:42 PM
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I agree with Honeysuckle, decorum on the public beach should be the same regardless of the presence of fabric. When affection becomes intimate, then the couple should 'get a room!'
My 2 cents.
Safebare
"Wearing nothing is devine, naked is a state of mind."
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B and S
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 1:03:46 PM
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A few months ago, I was waiting for the train to come to take me to work. While I was waiting, there were 2 people on the platform for the train, going in the opposite direction, passionately kissing, not quite to the 'get a room!' level, but more than casual.
Two women on the same platform as myself also saw the couple kiss, and one of them said to the other one, "Look at them! It's practically a porno!" then proceeded to tell the other woman about 2 people she once saw in a church parking lot having sex in a car.
I wanted to say, and if I'd been in a confrontational mood, I would have said to them "When it's a porno, you'll know it" but held my tongue, kept my silence. All this, and the couple was clothed. I could only imagine what these gals would say if this was taking place at the clothing optional beach.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is, keep the kissing under control, don't let it escalate too far. The couple was toeing the line of acceptable public behavior - at the beach, it probably would be frowned on and possibly not tolerated.
By the way, I told my husband about the incident and we've nicknamed the 2 women "The Sensor Sisters" - lol :)
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dakotacpl
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Posted - 08/09/2009 : 1:10:40 PM
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The "Sensor Sisters" remind me of two women we encountered on our first trip to Jamaica. They had "wandered" onto the nude side of the resort. Hard to "wander" when the path is clearly marked. They were standing by one of the bars fully clothed talking about "how bizarre" it was that everyone was nude. They were going on and on about how "bizarre" it was but guess where their eyes went when I went to the bar for a drink. I made it a point to converse with them and neither of them ever "looked me in the eyes
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Charged
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Posted - 08/10/2009 : 6:50:51 PM
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In my search for a good website, I searched "the average life of a nudist" to learn what nudism is like. One of the first results was a sick pervert's depiction of a nudist beach/Porno. In the description was a man and a woman nude on a beach in Spain. The woman felt a thrill in sexually exploiting herself in her husband's pleasure. People like these are what gives nudism a bad name. These people disgust me. Sex should be reserved for lovers, not the public.
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Randall50
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 3:27:35 PM
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As soon as you begin to show sexual attention, you stop being nude and become naked.
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Nudiststudent
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Posted - 03/19/2010 : 5:21:55 PM
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For many textiles becoming nude is usually followed by some sort of sexual encounter (or a shower) XD
I have asked my textile friends this question time and time again and most of them have said that "they wouldn't mind people kissing if they were in clothes so why should it matter if they are nude, especially to a nudist"
I have mixed views on the matter and think that there is definitely a line that shouldn't be crossed, like fondling, however to get weird looks from a husband putting suntan lotion on his wife's buttocks is pretty stupid if you ask me, he's simply putting the lotion on her and thats all.
As Fireprof said earlier:
I don't see anything wrong with applying sunscreen to the Prof's butt,legs and back slowly, deliberately and evenly so we minimize the risk of sunburn. No one seems to mind until I get to the buttocks and then all heads turn to watch. I think we just get to paranoid about what might happen.
I completely agree with what you have said here, they are scared of what might happen, and have made the mental connection between the buttocks and it transforming into something worse, which quite obviously for any nudist it wouldn't.
As a nudist they shouldn't be the invisible boundaries in place in people's minds set there by clothes e.g putting lotion on buttocks. I think it could be because the buttocks are usually hidden in the textile world by a bikini or such; people therefore view it as 'out of bounds sexual only area' when really it is just another section of skin which is just the same as any other bit of skin. Rubbing lotion is completely different to any kind of 'stimulation' that people may worry about. If you ask me then this kind of paranoid nudism is almost restricting your freedom just as much as it it giving you it.
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