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Bob Knows
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 5:18:37 PM
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There are several US States that have laws aimed at strip clubs that prohibit naked wait help. Some of such states have specific exemptions for the employees of nudist resorts where the customers are expected to be naked.
Considerations about sanitation are bogus. Like requiring shoes and shirts, its an excuse for body prudery.
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cony
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 Posted - 03/29/2012 : 08:36:56 AM
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Originally posted by renobiker
I agree with it being natural to have anyone who handles food clothed, the most I would allow is for the waitress to be topless, it is just sanitary reasons if cooking etc nude was much more sanitary for everyone then it would be a health code that all chefs cook nude.
In my humble opinion the reason working not nude in food handling has nothing to do with health, sanitation or safety (those frying could wear an apron for that job), it is to do with the puritanical (some have discribed it as Victorian) attitudes in government.
Cony 
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go n nude
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 03:46:31 AM
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Visiting a "Clothing optional resort", one might choose the clothes for what ever reason or excuse, because they have that choice or option, mangers/owners of those business's are giving people/visitors/employees the choice (freedom) to choose, as one also has the choice go or don't go its your option. They respect your choice and expect the same.
go n nude
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jbsnc
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 6:16:36 PM
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I am neutral on staff nudity. To me its their call. I've visited nudist resorts many many times with staff clothed and naked. Can't say I thought it made any difference in their regard toward me.
Happy Nuding.
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rooftopwilly
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 7:45:41 PM
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I have yet to actually go to a resort, but I'm in agreeance on the neutrality part. For some of them, it's just a job, not a lifestyle. If they want to remain clothed, then so be it.
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Balto Bob
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Bill Bowser
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Posted - 08/22/2014 : 5:46:54 PM
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I suppose it would make sense for everyone at a nude resort to be nude all the time, but personally I believe that everyone at a nude resort should wear as little, or as much, clothing as they wish. I also believe the same for everyone who is not at a nude resort.
I am continually amazed at the number of nudists who choose to be disturbed by what others are wearing. There is no difference between them and the textiles who choose to be disturbed by what others aren't wearing. Several times I have asked those who feel this way to explain to me how they are affected by someone else's attire. No one has ever attempted to do so.
My contention is that the problem is wholly imaginary. Those who disagree might like to try a little experiment. With your eyes closed wander among a group of people. See if you can discern those who are nude from those who aren't.
Bill Bowser - Cincinnati
Nudists are everywhere, but they're hard to identify with their clothes on.
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Nudony
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Posted - 08/23/2014 : 08:51:33 AM
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Originally posted by Bill Bowser
I am continually amazed at the number of nudists who choose to be disturbed by what others are wearing. There is no difference between them and the textiles who choose to be disturbed by what others aren't wearing.
I get what you're saying Bill, but there is a fundamental difference between the textile world and the nudist world. Size and space. Textiles get 95% of the world we live in; we get a couple of acres here, a small piece of beach there, and we're supposed to just be happy with it. That's the challenge to consider when comparing textile bias vs nudist bias.
Do I want to see everyone completely nude all the time? No; I can understand self-consciousness, protection from sun or cold or comfort. Would I prefer it if everyone was as nude as me? Absolutely! I like to see the idea of nudism - that clothes don't really have to be worn at all in a specific setting - to be exemplified and practiced. I have yet to see evidence that bringing textilism into nudism helps nudism grow. Nude environments - where nudity is practiced by all or most - keeps "the dream alive." IMHO.
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free2be
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 Posted - 08/23/2014 : 09:48:25 AM
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My view...all the above  Working in an office with A/C or just personal comfort that day, I can see them having something on...just the same as for us on the other side of the counter. They may also do it for the "first timers". My first visit to a resort, not knowing or wanting to presume I could strip at the car and then check in, I kept my clothes on...plus I was a little nervous as it is a different environment from a beach. When I went into the office and the woman had a t-shirt on, it did made me feel more comfortable. Now think about the true "nubie"...one that has never been nude in any social environment at all. I think it helps to ease them into a comfort level for shedding their clothes rather then "bam" in-your-face nude people talking to you. Same was the reason for the transition from nude to clothing optional at many venues.
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gnarlyoldman
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Posted - 08/23/2014 : 10:30:48 AM
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I see the point, free2be, of wearing clothes at the front gate or check in office. But employees working around the grounds should be naked where guests are expected or allowed to be naked. Management sets the standard.
Naked is green.
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free2be
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Posted - 08/23/2014 : 8:19:37 PM
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I see the point, free2be, of wearing clothes at the front gate or check in office. But employees working around the grounds should be naked where guests are expected or allowed to be naked. Management sets the standard.
I agree. Throughout the rest of the resort, the staff should blend in with the guests.
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Nudony
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Posted - 08/25/2014 : 11:28:35 PM
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My view...all the above Working in an office with A/C or just personal comfort that day, I can see them having something on...just the same as for us on the other side of the counter. They may also do it for the "first timers".
Yes. When I was a frequent visitor at BA, I took note of the fact that the front desk manager/owner always wore a sarong when we checked in. I assumed that she wasn't really a nudist; she just worked there. One day, as we arrived, I saw her standing nude outside the front office talking with some guests. My assumption about her was shaken.
After I'd gotten to know her, and we were chatting in the office, I just asked her about front office nudity. And she very candidly explained the sarong, with two reasons:
- AC: the AC unit was right behind her, and blew very cold air. It was just too cold in there for her to be nude throughout the day.
- Newbies: she found that there was two issues with being nude when newbies checked in. Either they were distracted by her nude breasts "hanging over" the counter and just focused on that; or they were outright discomforted by it.
So she just found it more convenient to just keep on a sarong in the front office.
Thinking back to my X's first time ever at a resort: we were greeted by a T-shirt clad owner behind the front desk. I didn't really notice, but the front counter was small, and the guy occasionally walked back and forth from behind the counter. When we walked out after checking in, my X had a perplexed expression on her face. I inquired, and it turned out that his bottomless state was the cause of her turmoil. She had seen his penis beneath his shirt, and she just couldn't get around it. She obviously got over it, but that first encounter was unexpected and weird to her.
Fast forward a year or two later, after we'd become seasoned social nudists. We went to CC with some friends, who had emphatically encouraged us to just disrobe first and check in nude. We all walked in, and were greeted by a lovely owner, who was herself nude, and just came out from behind her counter to greet us. I was enthused by the interaction; and so was my X, who embraced the warm, and nude, welcome. I couldn't help but to think how that would have went if this had been her first time introduction to nudism. Her reaction would have probably been radically different.
What works for a seasoned nudist may not work at all for a newbie. Not my personal preference; but if a front desk person opts to remain covered at check in...I can understand it.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 08/31/2014 : 05:12:41 AM
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If the staff is clothed, it's fine with me, but if not clothed, that's fine, too. I'm not there to see if the staff is clothed or not; I'm there to enjoy being clothes-free.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 08/31/2014 : 10:59:31 AM
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I agree with the poster above who said that management at a resort sets the standard. If they are clothed, the customers don't feel as strong an obligation to be naked, and you have the "creeping textilism," that is so common nowadays...especially amongst women. And to address Bill, THAT is the reason what people wear or don't wear affects us. One sometimes feels out of place being nude at a "clothing optional" resort. Clothing optional is the PC of nudism, IMO.
I'd say that textiles have 99% of the world, and thanks to most everything being clothing optional now, they are encroaching on that last 1%.
As for it being too cold in the office, here's a simple, environmentally sound solution: turn down the fricking AC! I can't believe I'm the first to happen upon that idea. The resort we used to go to had the office so cold it was uncomfortable to check in nude. Why? It's not like people are doing heavy lifting in there.
And if a person goes to a nudist resort and is shocked and turned off by the person behind the desk being naked, then I don't have much hope for the customer either as a nudist or in life, for that matter ;-).
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FireProf
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Posted - 08/31/2014 : 12:00:11 PM
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Originally posted by Bill Bowser
I suppose it would make sense for everyone at a nude resort to be nude all the time, but personally I believe that everyone at a nude resort should wear as little, or as much, clothing as they wish.
Bill Bowser - Cincinnati
Nudists are everywhere, but they're hard to identify with their clothes on.
There seems to be a little contradiction here ...
"nude resort" ... "wearing clothing..." hmmmmm
In all the clubs and resorts we've visited ... 2 ... 2 outta numerous clubs and resorts we have visited had nude people tending the front office; Shangri La Ranch and The Terra Cotta Inn. Why? Because those nude venues are owned and managed by ... nudists. At Shangri La Ranch, Patty Faber greeted me both times and she was nude, as well as the other female office staff person.
At The Terra Cotta Inn, the Inn is owned, managed and daily operations conducted by the owners who are nudists and they greet their guests nude, roam the grounds nude, visit with their guests and conduct daily office business ... while nude.
At our club, one younger woman seems to do most of the visitor contact work. She checks guest, members in, and also deals with many of the outside vendors and contractors ... she's not a nudist but she was employed for her office skills. I think this is the norm ... hiring those that are actually looking for work, have the office skills needed to run the business and you're not going to find "nudists" that want the job. There are two other women in the office and one of them, I know for sure, is a nudist and she lives on the property. She always takes new comers on their tour but the "nude tours" are so inconsistent. THAT, in my opinion, is where it starts. If you allow people to skirt around the rules then you give them the impression that you don't really enforce the rules, thus ... our "nude" resorts become places where ... visitors, members, residents ... "wear as little, or as much, clothing as they wish."
This is all well and good for the guy that visits alone and doesn't have a reluctant female partner he's trying to bring into the lifestyle. We've heard the arguments for clothing optional and some are very valid but what of the reluctant spouse who is not ready to jump in with both feet and she's asked to get naked but all the other people at the club or resort are clothed?
Bill and I don't usually agree on much and this is no exception; though I don't visit nude resorts to "see" other naked people, I do visit nude resorts to be naked with other naked people and not be naked with other clothed people. I can be clothed anytime, anywhere else besides a nude resort/club where people pay to become members to visit and be naked.
In regards to office staff ... until the are all staffed with nudists and they are staffed with nudists who prefer being nude whenever they possibly can ... we'll always see clothed office staff at resorts and clubs. Maybe, just maybe, those people are the ones that are naked most of the time and they get tired of being naked? Because I have to agree ... if it's too cold in the office to be naked and being naked is what you prefer ... turn the thermostat up or turn the A/C off, seems like the logical thing to do. But I suspect that there would always be an excuse.
Loves being naked. Plays well with others!
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