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Digital_Cowboy
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 Posted - 09/17/2014 : 12:42:45 PM
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I do remember the Phoebe/Ursula connection, but didn't know the Kramer/Paul Reiser connection.
If I remember correctly Paul's character showed up in the Sienfield piolet. And I'm not 100% sure, but I think that Ursula also showed up from time-to-time over the run of Sienfield.
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gnarlyoldman
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Posted - 09/17/2014 : 1:31:52 PM
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Last night I saw a trailer for a new show called "Love Prison." Their premise is to put a man and woman "alone" on a small confined place for a week. The first show is "Rosie & Chris" scheduled for next Saturday, 9-20-14. In the trailer for what will apparently be their first episode, the man is soon naked and the clothing compulsive female doesn't enjoy his nudity. There is also one called "Lawrence and Nicole" scheduled for Monday 9-22.
Shows like this increase the number of people who see humans going naked and unafraid without anything bad happening to them. Even if its blurred, it increases public exposure to the idea of going naked as a possible choice.
Naked is green.
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 09/17/2014 : 1:55:45 PM
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Last night I saw a trailer for a new show called "Love Prison." Their premise is to put a man and woman "alone" on a small confined place for a week. The first show is "Rosie & Chris" scheduled for next Saturday, 9-20-14. In the trailer for what will apparently be their first episode, the man is soon naked and the clothing compulsive female doesn't enjoy his nudity. There is also one called "Lawrence and Nicole" scheduled for Monday 9-22.
Shows like this increase the number of people who see humans going naked and unafraid without anything bad happening to them. Even if its blurred, it increases public exposure to the idea of going naked as a possible choice.
Naked is green.
What network is that on? It sounds interesting. And it would be nice if networks didn't censor simple nudity.
Here's a question for those living in NY. Given that it is now (and has been for some time) legal for women to go topfree in the same places as a man. Have the stations up there stopped blurring women's breasts?
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gnarlyoldman
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Posted - 09/17/2014 : 2:13:19 PM
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What network is that on? It sounds interesting. And it would be nice if networks didn't censor simple nudity.
Love Prison is on A&E
Yes, its a shame that TV blurs out human bodies.
Naked is green.
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 09/17/2014 : 7:14:38 PM
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What network is that on? It sounds interesting. And it would be nice if networks didn't censor simple nudity.
Love Prison is on A&E
Yes, its a shame that TV blurs out human bodies.
Naked is green.
D@mn, I won't get to see it as I don't have cable or sat, or any sort of pay TV.
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 09/17/2014 : 7:17:55 PM
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Originally posted by Digital_Cowboy
What network is that on? It sounds interesting. And it would be nice if networks didn't censor simple nudity.
Love Prison is on A&E
Yes, its a shame that TV blurs out human bodies.
Naked is green.
D@mn, I won't get to see it as I don't have cable or sat, or any sort of pay TV.
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rooftopwilly
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Posted - 09/17/2014 : 10:54:55 PM
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Here's a question for those living in NY. Given that it is now (and has been for some time) for women to go topfree in the same places as a man. Have the stations up there stopped blurring women's breasts?
Nope. They still blur women's breasts here.
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 12:04:46 AM
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Here’s a question for those living in NY. Given that it is now (and has been for some time) legal for women to go topfree in the same places as a man. Have the stations up there stopped blurring women’s breasts?
Nope. They still blur women’s breasts here.
That’s asinine, given that it’s now legal for women to go topfree, if they choose to do so, there shouldn’t be any problem with showing women topfree on TV. Granted as we know there is no real reason to blur ANY body part, but that is what we have to deal with as nudists. 
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rooftopwilly
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 01:32:13 AM
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You have to remember, just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's accepted. I have never once seen a woman topless here in New York and taking advantage of that law.
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 09:29:37 AM
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Even though topfree is legal and even accepted the FCC is the one that still controls broadcast content.
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 10:17:26 AM
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You have to remember, just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean it’s accepted. I have never once seen a woman topless here in New York and taking advantage of that law.
This is true, and as a cyclist it is something that I/we have to deal with on a daily basis.
As I’ve said I have been stopped by LEOs even though I’ve been operating my bicycle in a safe and LEGAL manner. The first time, I was on my way home from a free concert in Downtown St. Pete. He starts out with “you and your clubs need to learn. . .” changing mid-sentence to “I’m sick and tired of cleaning your brains off of the pavement.” He as off duty at the time and had threatened to confiscate my bicycle on the spot.
The next time I was on my way to visit my girlfriend at 2200hrs, I was on the same road but on another stretch of it, but it was still at least two lanes in each direction of travel. When a cop that had been in the parking lot of my apartment complex gets on his PA system and orders me to either ride further to the right or to get on the sidewalk.
Then just last year, I had a FHP officer pull me over claiming among other things that supposedly there was a black car behind me that had “almost hit” me. Hmm, now then considering that it is on the operator of the FOLLOWING vehicle NOT to hit the vehicle in front of them. He should have stopped that alleged “black car,” NOT me.
He also tried to tell me that:
a) the state of Florida no longer recognizes the bicycle as a vehicle, wrong.
b) without giving me a citation just a verbal warning that the next time I was “caught” driving my bicycle in the lane that I could be arrested, wrong.
c) that on roads without a bike lane that we’re required to operate on the sidewalk, wrong.
So, trust me I know that just because something is legal, doesn’t mean that it is accepted. It is a sad truism, but it is a truism. In all three incidents I was operating my bicycle in both a safe and legal manner. Sadly, NOT that that always matters to either the LEO on the scene or the judge who may hear the case.
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rooftopwilly
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 1:54:26 PM
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Even though topfree is legal and even accepted the FCC is the one that still controls broadcast content.
FCC regulations are relaxed after 10pm. Network broadcasting is allowed to show nudity, swearing, etc, after 10pm. However, they still have to deal with their advertisers. They know that if they show nudity or a lot of swearing, then the general public is going to get upset and start boycotting the companies that advertise on that network, and those companies are going to pull their ads, which in turn, the networks will lose money. So because of that, we still don't see nudity on network television.
Cable television isn't restricted by the FCC, but they still have to deal with the advertisers, so we get the same thing.
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 6:39:05 PM
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Even though topfree is legal and even accepted the FCC is the one that still controls broadcast content.
FCC regulations are relaxed after 10pm. Network broadcasting is allowed to show nudity, swearing, etc, after 10pm. However, they still have to deal with their advertisers. They know that if they show nudity or a lot of swearing, then the general public is going to get upset and start boycotting the companies that advertise on that network, and those companies are going to pull their ads, which in turn, the networks will lose money. So because of that, we still don't see nudity on network television.
Cable television isn't restricted by the FCC, but they still have to deal with the advertisers, so we get the same thing.
So then as I've said before we can thank Madison Ave. It'd be nice if more local networks would take advantage of the relaxing of the rules after 2200hrs.
Given that most if not all new TV's have the so-called V-chip in them. Why not leave it up to the viewer to decide what to block or not to block?!?
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nudewalker
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 10:48:08 PM
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At least that is what the moral majority wants you to believe; that they could muster a boycott of products to force advertisers to make changes in programing. I'm sure that areas of the Bible belt that would hold true but as cable TV grabs more of the share of the viewing audience that will change also. And not that it matters; seeing nudity on TV will not necessarily make it mainstream or accepted. There is a lot of education on body acceptance to be done before there can be even the idea that any type of nudity could be accepted in our world. Something as natural as breastfeeding isn't accepted everywhere so how can one hope for a simple thing like a nude beach?
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 09/18/2014 : 11:22:06 PM
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At least that is what the moral majority wants you to believe; that they could muster a boycott of products to force advertisers to make changes in programming. I’m sure that areas of the Bible belt that would hold true but as cable TV grabs more of the share of the viewing audience that will change also. And not that it matters; seeing nudity on TV will not necessarily make it mainstream or accepted. There is a lot of education on body acceptance to be done before there can be even the idea that any type of nudity could be accepted in our world. Something as natural as breastfeeding isn’t accepted everywhere so how can one hope for a simple thing like a nude beach?
So shouldn’t we be able to use the same tactics to get simple non-sexual nudity on TV? I mean there is the precedent with Schindler’s List. I mean there wasn’t any crime in the streets, no one went blind or mad because some simple, non-sexual nudity was shown on TV.
And in a way in more than a few crime drama’s and “real life” crime shows like “Cold Case Files,” “Forensic Files,” “Snapped,” etc. they kind of show female nudity in the form of anatomy pictures to show were injuries were on a woman’s body.
So, if they can do that, why can’t they show the real thing?
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