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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 08/11/2006 :  4:22:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit HG8Harrier's Homepage  Send HG8Harrier an AOL message  Send HG8Harrier a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I am sorry if this has been covered already, as I have been on the site for around a month and have yet to come across it, but it doesn't mean that this hasn't already been proposed.

Wouldn't it be neat to have a self-sustaining nudist community? A place where you could attend church/temple/mosque/prayer/et. al. naked, commute naked, work naked, golf naked, whatever you chose to do naked... where everybody else was nude (unless impractical) and there were no gawkers?

I guess a man can dream. I don't know if a place like this exists, but it would be a neat sensation. Just thought that I'd share a pipe-dream.

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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 08/11/2006 :  8:09:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only things that come to mind are the Garden of Eden, unfortunately closed down due to a dispute between the Management and its only two members, and Cap d'Agde on the French Mediterranean coast. Cap d'Adge really is a Naked City, with stores, restaurants, banks, clinics you can walk into buck naked. It's not truly self-sustaining, in that it relies on nearby towns for workers and supplies, and it's clearly a resort, not a Real City. But it comes as close to what you're describing as any place I'm aware of. Too bad it's in France. It would be nice if some place like, say, Pasco County, Florida declared itself clothing-optional ... but I'm not holding my breath.


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iamRoy
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  01:20:53 AM  Show Profile  Send iamRoy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The holding of breath would tend to turn you purple, before you passed out and continued to live. LOL. But I agree it would be nice to live (even if not work) in a place where I could get up and walk outside everyday without someone calling the cops because of how I was not dressed. It would also be a welcome place if I could find a resort near where I live or work that did not say a married person could not attend alone. Many years ago I attended resorts but am now married to a non-nudist.

Roy



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Cheri
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  12:56:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iamRoy

The holding of breath would tend to turn you purple, before you passed out and continued to live. LOL. But I agree it would be nice to live (even if not work) in a place where I could get up and walk outside everyday without someone calling the cops because of how I was not dressed. It would also be a welcome place if I could find a resort near where I live or work that did not say a married person could not attend alone. Many years ago I attended resorts but am now married to a non-nudist.

Roy



There are nudist parks in OH that you could attend as a single. I'm not familiar with any actual resorts in OH and think there may be only parks.
Cheri

Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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iamRoy
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  4:45:06 PM  Show Profile  Send iamRoy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The ones I am aware of, only allow single men, not halh of a married couple.

Roy




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balataf
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Posted - 08/12/2006 :  9:57:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit balataf's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've read about all sorts of groups trying to get their supports to consolidate into a small area, whether various religious groups, political sects from communal to very individualist, and others. Some past ones were Harmony. PA., New Harmony, IN, Oneida, NY, and Amana IA. The grandest of all was the westward march of the Mormons to Utah.
And there have been a dozen wacko cults like the Branch Dravidians, and Jonestown in Guyana.

The prime question is how such a community can be economically viable in the world of today. I don't really have an answer to that one. Most people have jobs that are geographically too tied down.

The area to be chosen for such a project would have to have a moderate climate on the warm side for maximum effect.

Eventually, such a venue as a Lunar or Mars Colony could be clothing-free within the sealed and heated working spaces. Sounds like a good idea for a novel.



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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  02:18:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit HG8Harrier's Homepage  Send HG8Harrier an AOL message  Send HG8Harrier a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by balataf

I've read about all sorts of groups trying to get their supports to consolidate into a small area, whether various religious groups, political sects from communal to very individualist, and others. Some past ones were Harmony. PA., New Harmony, IN, Oneida, NY, and Amana IA. The grandest of all was the westward march of the Mormons to Utah.
And there have been a dozen wacko cults like the Branch Dravidians, and Jonestown in Guyana.

The prime question is how such a community can be economically viable in the world of today. I don't really have an answer to that one. Most people have jobs that are geographically too tied down.

The area to be chosen for such a project would have to have a moderate climate on the warm side for maximum effect.

Eventually, such a venue as a Lunar or Mars Colony could be clothing-free within the sealed and heated working spaces. Sounds like a good idea for a novel.



It does sound like a good concept for a novel. Do we have any nudist novelists out there? Maybe there should be a collaboration of Nudist-resorts.org fans.

I'm sure that you've read that even though we now know Oneida as the silverware people... Oneida and Amana had their own fatal flaws. Even Brook Farm had run aground due to corruption, et. al.



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HarborGuy
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Posted - 08/17/2006 :  12:58:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit HarborGuy's Homepage  Send HarborGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
It has always been a great dream of mine to get together a group of true nudists, buy some land and start a community JUST like has been asked about. To have everything from a schoool like the old days; just a one room school for all ages. Town hall, fire department (Though I wouldn't want to fight a fire naked) Police department (Though I'm sure a gun belt would chafe) and all that.

However... Knowing what I know from living and working in a nudist resort I am finding out that nudists can be JUST as pig headed and annoying as anyone in any community. Sometimes they can even be worse to live around even than people in big cities like New York City.

That's not to say I don't love living where I live because I wouldn't consider living anywhere else in the world. With the exception of starting a community like we are talking about.



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iamRoy
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Posted - 08/17/2006 :  1:33:03 PM  Show Profile  Send iamRoy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The town setting would be OK I guess, But what I would love to see happen (of course it won't) is to change the laws of this land so if you walk outside your own house as naked as the day you were born, no one could get you arrested. After all a man's (and a woman's) home is his (her) castle, and that should at least include the lawn around said home.

Roy




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Pete Knight
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Posted - 08/18/2006 :  08:12:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very interesting that this topic has fired up here as the same discussion is going on with a UK forum. The forum www.go-bare.org is running the same discussion
HERE-->http://www.go-bare.org/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=26&page=viewtopic&p=6089#6089
and the owner has a web site dedicated to the concept of a naturist community, you'll find that
HERE--> http://naturist-trust.org/.

You already have gated communities in the States, its just that none of them are naturist or even clothing optional, shame really!!

It would possible to have a self sustaining community, with income from vacations and service industry's there would be no requirement to leave the community, the only intrusion would be delivery of goods to the shops and markets, and the removal of the resultant trash.

Pete Knight

Even a prude
has to be nude
........sometime!!



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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 08/20/2006 :  6:54:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit HG8Harrier's Homepage  Send HG8Harrier an AOL message  Send HG8Harrier a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
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The only way any place could be truly "self" sustaining is a place that has all the factories needed to produce everything they need, farmers to produce all the food they need, and all the other things we need to live a properous and happy life. I don't believe it would be possible for any place to be self-sustaining to the point that they wouldn't need anything from outside areas. Still, it would be great to live where as an individual you would have everything you need within your town and would never have to put on clothes as long as the it's in a warm climate, although the town itself would need help from outside.


When you think of it that way, nothing is truly self sustaining. Los Angeles, New York, and Tokyo can't support themselves in terms of water, agriculture, livestock, and marketing their products.

Strange thoughts...



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pilot
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  09:42:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The self-sustaining issue is an interesting one. See this link for network TV's meditation on this topic, coming this fall.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/upfront_2006/jericho.shtml



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imnude2
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  10:34:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi HG8Harrier,

A great idea! The part about self-sustaining may be difficult it seems. Although, I would like that same opportunity to go grocery shopping, do the gardening, socialize with the neighbors, take walks around anywhere I please, do all you suggest we should be able to do. I thought I read on the web one day I was looking for homes that there is a place in the U.S. that seem to invite a nudist living (community of homes) & it was not describing a nudist resort. I am new to this so I really do not know what that was all about. Anyway, I still look forward to this nudist living you talk about, if only in a dream.

ImNude2



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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  2:05:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit HG8Harrier's Homepage  Send HG8Harrier an AOL message  Send HG8Harrier a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
ImNude2:

It may just be a pipe dream, but I do think that the world, if not just the United States, needs something like that, as people seem to be increasingly dependent on clothes and mistake all things nude for all things lewd.

Pilot:

If Jericho delivers on its premise, it might be the best new show on any of the former Big 3 (ABC, NBC, CBS) in quite some time.

Jon-Marc:

Unfortunately, very few people can eek out a living living and working at a resort... and if everybody tried doing it, it would make it that much harder for those few that do now. That's why I said this is a pipe-dream. However, I'm glad to see some people can live in such communities.



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iamRoy
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  8:03:20 PM  Show Profile  Send iamRoy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
OK let us try instead to get the laws changed so that we can go to town nude and not get arrested.

Roy




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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  12:26:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit HG8Harrier's Homepage  Send HG8Harrier an AOL message  Send HG8Harrier a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
What about the area surrounding this Cap D'Agde place? It sounds like that area not only tolerates nudists, but it counts on us/them for a large part of their economy.


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