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sailordave
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Posted - 01/31/2004 :  6:51:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've heard about and seen photos of this event. Believe it takes place in a nudist resort somewhere in Indiana. From what I saw of the pics, it looks more like porn. Do you think this is a good event to promote nudist or was it a good idea that turned into porn? I'm of two minds on the subject. But am interested in the opinions of more experienced people here. Also, what do you think of the Burning Man festival? From what I've seen of that desert fest, it seems a better and less pornographic promotion of social nudism than Nudes A Popping.

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Kimberly
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  05:37:03 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sailordave;

In my personal opinion, nudes a poppin has nothing to do with nudism, its all exhibitionism. I have seen the pictures on the net and it is a supposed nude beauty contest, with the women speading their legs open for all these guys to takes pictures. As far as the Burning Man Festival, I haven't been their, but I have seen the video. From what I have seen is it is less of exhibitionism than nudes a poppin, but more like counter culture, somthing semilar to woodstock.

Kim =^.^=



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sailordave
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  09:15:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What gets me is it's put on in a nudist resort. That leads me to believe it may have been started as a way to get people in and recruit new members. Is those possible new members worth the negative publicity for nudist? Plus I've seen that it's been hosted by porn stars.


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Kimberly
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  10:18:50 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Cheri correct me if I am wrong, but didn't The Poderosa where nudes a poppin is held, loose their AANR affiliation because of their activities? I saw a programe on the TV a while back about a porn star that was a Miss nude America or some title like that. Guys would pay to have their picture taken together with her nude. Nudes a poppin does not promote family friendly nudism, its aimed more at the voyeur.

Kim =^.^=



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calmnude
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  12:25:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Burning Man is as Kim said, a commbo nudist, hippie, alternative life style gathering and has been written up in "Travel Naturally" and other accepted mainstream nudist zines. the one in indiana is an exhibition of bare bodies, not to be confused with the lifestyle. it is a "event" which does a lot of harm to legitimate nude recreation


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Cheri
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  3:19:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kim, I don't remember if Ponderosa ever held an ASA/AANR charter, but it is definitely NOT nudism.

Dave, it was started to raise funds for the park.

Porn stars and the more exotic strippers do attend according to reports. Cameras and videos are encouraged. Things like this is what started to get rid of the Queen/King competitions at the ASA/AANR regional levels and at various parks across North America.

:) Cheri

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sailordave
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  6:43:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was always curious how and why that event got started. Seemed counter productive to have about a hundred strippers and some porn stars appear at a nudist resort which opens their doors to photo/video camera totting voyeurs that are going to post these photos on the web and sell their video all over the place. Kind of interesting from a karma point of view. One is created to generate funds and the other, Burning Man, is grown organicly in the desert. One goes more and more towards porn while the other grows in artistic expression.


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Kimberly
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  9:59:52 PM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Nudes a poppin thumbs its nose at regular nudist clubs. If you notice from the pictures, all the guys are dressed and behind a fence taking pictures while the women spread and pose for them. It does make money for the Ponderosa, and a lot of people enjoy it, I just wish they wouldn't associate it with nudism, just gives us a bad name.

Kim =^.^=



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quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly

Cheri correct me if I am wrong, but didn't The Poderosa where nudes a poppin is held, loose their AANR affiliation because of their activities? Nudes a poppin does not promote family friendly nudism, its aimed more at the voyeur.



Ponderosa never was a member club of the ASA. They contained their own breakoff association of the National Nudist Council which they called the United Nudist Council or UNC.

Unfortunately, I was in on the original brainstorming sessions and helped promote the original Ponderosa nude pageants which eventually developed (with the help of "titty bar" promoters) into the "Nudes-A-Poppin" shows they host now. The original concept was to raise money for the club and educate the public at the same time about a real nudist club. The original pageant contestants were actually the wives and women members of the club.

However, once the promoters took over, the members wanted no part of these shows because, as it has already been pointed out, they no longer represent nudism in any form and are actually misleading to the public.

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bornnude
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Posted - 03/06/2004 :  09:37:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have seen a lot of traffic about Nudes-A-Poppin but what are your opinions about Burning Man.

My limited exposure to it seems to show that the people who go are very tolerant of those around...

Seems to be the opposite of Nudes-A-Poppin in many ways...



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vealj
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Burning Man is cool! Well really hot since it's in the desert. But it is a celebration of artistic creativity and of tolerance for differing cultures and ideas.

I'd love to go but it's probably too hot there for me. It is definitely the opposite of what Ponderosa and the topless bars and massage parlors have to offer.



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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/06/2004 :  6:15:32 PM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't been to Burning Man, but I have seen the website. It looks more like a cultural fair, and doesn't look as obscene as NAP.

Kim =^.^=



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Nudony
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Posted - 01/24/2005 :  10:23:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nudity is incidental at Burning man...their purpose is freedom of expression. Most of the nude people there have their bodies painted or covered in mud. Not your run-of-the-mill nudism.


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