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runninaroundnaked Posted - 06/08/2009 : 5:43:21 PM
balance the events.
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sailnaked44 Posted - 02/15/2011 : 1:55:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tucsonnude

A good long time pen pal has told me that his resort in west TN has pretty much gone the way of swinging. It really is too bad. I don't know if their affilitation is with AANR. Sounds like it should be or the swingers are under the radar. Just tragic as noted that nudism now has to battle forces of swinger intrusion. The public certainly needs to be educated and that swinging or other kinds of sex are not the way of nudists.



ive been a nudist 25 years and if i recall corectly nudists werent pointing the finger at everyone back then.some places and sites point the finger at single nudist males...are all single nudist males the same?no.some places point the finger at gay/lez..are all those the same?no.some point the finger at families and kids..are all those the same?no...my point is that many groups and lifestyles have had the finger pointed at them and have had to take it like a man(or woman)but whats raising the big "stink"here is that swinging mostly involves couples and nudist couples have never had the finger pointed at them..they are usually the ones complaining and changing the rules at resorts about other"nudists"single,gay or whatever and they cant accept that the finger might be pointed at them.i support nudist rights and have been a member of the aanr for 15 years but some of these arogant,whining couples make me sick by thinking they are better than me

steve isrel
Warmskin Posted - 07/13/2009 : 12:02:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by NaturistDoc

Warmskin,

"Anent"? I love it. You da lexicographic bomb!

Doc



I guess I'm not doing too bad for an individual who has no college degree.

BTW, textile folks outnumber us nudists. It would seem that they are more sexual than we. That may not be the most accurate reasoning, but it does indicate something. Perhaps some or most swingers don't participate generally in nude activities, save for the obvious.

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
James Madison
Warmskin Posted - 07/12/2009 : 7:48:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by NaturistDoc

Warmskin,"Anent"? I love it. You da lexicographic bomb!
Doc



I just read a lot, and once in a while, I sneak in an arcane word or two. I'll keep thinking up more strange words.

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
James Madison
tucsonnude Posted - 07/04/2009 : 12:28:49 PM
A good long time pen pal has told me that his resort in west TN has pretty much gone the way of swinging. It really is too bad. I don't know if their affilitation is with AANR. Sounds like it should be or the swingers are under the radar. Just tragic as noted that nudism now has to battle forces of swinger intrusion. The public certainly needs to be educated and that swinging or other kinds of sex are not the way of nudists.

flnudist Posted - 07/03/2009 : 1:26:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bare Warrior

Most of you missed the point. It will not be long before some incident occurs with the swingers, and then non-nudists will equate nudism with swinging, which is not main stream, mid-stream, etc. and then we all loose the right to be nude, even in a private session. Certainly the beaches will go, because nudist will be equated with swinging. It doesn't matter what the truth is, its what people will perceive.

We're idiots if we think that any association witht the swinger life-style will be beneficial. And the resorts are very short sighted.

Bare Warrior





Both Swinging and Nudism have been around for many decades. And without doing any research I would dare to say that there were Nudist resorts BEFORE any Swinging places. Why would you all of a sudden think that one would over take the other in thr near future.
NaturistDoc Posted - 07/03/2009 : 12:07:36 AM
Warmskin,

"Anent"? I love it. You da lexicographic bomb!

Doc
agde Posted - 07/02/2009 : 9:00:59 PM
I still have trouble with the idea of nudity as a "lifestyle". Nudity is just a state of being, swinging is an activity. Saying "I am a nudist and a swinger" is like saying "I am a nudist and a golfer", Both golfing and swinging are out of place at a shopping mall or public swimming pool. Activities have their place. Activities however can be done nude or clothed. There is a simple social problem that nudity and sexual activity get equated -- in the sense that the former is seen necessarily to lead to the latter -- so that laws get written in confused ways. Naturists are trying to break that association so that activities are regulated seperately from state of being. Associating non-sexual activities with being nude contributes to that goal. Associating sexual activities with social nudity adds to the confusion. People just have to be confident that swimming nude doesn't lead to sex any more than wearing plaid pants and spiked golf shoes necessarily leads to orgies in the clubhouse.
NakedOpeness Posted - 06/29/2009 : 12:28:51 AM
I am a nudist, and my wife and I are both swingers (she isn't a nudist). We can seperate the lifestyles, and do so. When we have kids, we will probably do less swinging, and more family nudist activities.

Swingers, are like nudists in many ways. The goal is just different. And those swingers who don't obey the house rules (as well as general Lifestyle Rules), get outted real quick, and never invited back!

There are bad apples in EVERY lifestyle!

Clothing should always be optional!
brownbare Posted - 06/26/2009 : 3:07:44 PM
We'd be very interested in knowing what verifiable information that Teva has that Paradise Valley has "turned to the dark side." We're occasional visitors there and haven't seen any any evidence that it has become a swingers club. The new owners have promised to maintain their AANR status. Could she please post her evidence or let us know if it is just gossip.

We are considering buying a membership at PVR but will certainly reconsider if it has, in fact, become a sex club.
NudeAl Posted - 06/16/2009 : 9:44:44 PM
This is why it is important to support AANR and TNS they represent true nudist/naturist values and are our voice. If you are a nudist/naturist you need to become a member of one or both of these fine organizations as they have done a tremendous job preserving our way of life in spite of numerous attempts to stamp it out. These clubs who give in to the swinger element may regret that decision one day as they then fall beyond the pale and are thus outside of the protections of these national organizations.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. -- Robert Frost
robroy560 Posted - 06/16/2009 : 2:13:13 PM
My wife and I feel the same. We would never go to a club or resort out of fear of this - real or misconception. This why we appreciate the c/o beach model. Yes, you still have the gawkers and other idiots. but you can find your place and enjoy the time in the nude.

Yes, more education is needed. But again, we'd rather stay to ourselves at the beach.

quote:
Originally posted by Bare Warrior

Its a real shame. My wife and I became nudists just 2 years ago and were really enjoying it. Now we realize that it will not be long before nudist resorts will be things of the past. All those people who worked hard over several generations to gain public and political support for the nudist life-style, are seeing their efforts destroyed in only a few months. The resorts, with their ads and "events" are making it very, very clear that they are all about the sex trade, the exploitation of men and women, and our nudity perversions. How does anyone defend "nudism" when the county commissioners are looking at the current event "ads?" Only a fool would believe we are about anything but sexual exploitation.

Remember, when societies are in economic turmoil they turn rapidly conservative. Just look at what happened to Europe over the weekend. I predict that in less than 3 years, those resorts who abandon AANR principles will be out of business.

Bare Warrior





Warmskin Posted - 06/14/2009 : 9:24:19 PM
Anent Bare Warrior's point, the nudist community needs to educate the public on the differences between the clear difference between the family-oriented resorts versus the swinger-oriented places.

Put yourself in the average person's head - people being nude means sexuality. So, when sexually negative newsworthy events happen at a swinger resort, the traditional, family-oriented resorts automatically get thrown into the mix.

One reason I like family nudist resorts is the lack of sexual intent. We are expected to maintain our politeness, consideration, self-control, and self-restraint.

The unfairness of people associating nudity with swinging is that people in the outside world are just as sexual as the nudist world. Further, people in the textile world seem to have more problems with sexuality then people at a family nudist resort.

Misconceptions run rampant, and we are vulnerable to them. As such, we need to be on the "offense" as it were, to project to the public, the correct idea of who family nudists really are.

“In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.” -John Adams
Bare Warrior Posted - 06/14/2009 : 8:59:00 PM
Most of you missed the point. It will not be long before some incident occurs with the swingers, and then non-nudists will equate nudism with swinging, which is not main stream, mid-stream, etc. and then we all loose the right to be nude, even in a private session. Certainly the beaches will go, because nudist will be equated with swinging. It doesn't matter what the truth is, its what people will perceive.

We're idiots if we think that any association witht the swinger life-style will be beneficial. And the resorts are very short sighted.

Bare Warrior

smoothaussies Posted - 06/14/2009 : 6:52:32 PM
It would be sad if everyone had the attitude of not wanting kids around, the kids will be adults one day and hopefully nudists, maybe the best place for people who do not like kids around is to stay at home?
hernandocpl Posted - 06/12/2009 : 10:52:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Teva

Bare Warrior, Just learned yesterday that one in GA has turned to the "dark side." Happily Serendipity and Bell Acres remain nudist.
Teva



which one???

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